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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 16 2012 09:31 GMT
#41
On August 16 2012 18:22 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 17:29 Grumbels wrote:
DRG losing to Effort - even assuming the latter's early game micro is superior, is still a failure on DRG's part for not using his experience to just skip the early game.

Because he wanted to KILL effort, and if he was superior in micro he would do this. Its pretty simple, you kill crippled opponents and efforts godly defense and simcity turned the tide away. Such things are possible even in SC2...

So you're saying that drg when playing properly suicides banelings into queens?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 16 2012 09:46 GMT
#42
On August 16 2012 17:11 shin ken wrote:
This article was dodgeing the Hero/hero naming issue but I have a suggestion:

My stomach always cringes when I see "fake hero" or fero because he's clearly not faking the nickname. Foxer was great for MarineKing because he was clearly faking the name of one of his idols but I doubt thats the case here.

So how can we distinguish the heros? For example liquid Hero is written uppercase and cj hero is lowercase. Back in the days (at least in counterstrike) we used the "mini" tag: Liquid Hero can stay "Hero", CJ hero becomes mini-hero.

I don't how we mix the T8 hero into this - maybe hero2 or "hero II" because his name reads like Jo "hero" Il Jang?

Just call them by their full ID .. Liquid'Hero, herO[jOin]/CJherO, by.hero/T8hero.

Or nicknames work I guess. I nominate herO[jOin] to be shortened to herOin
Writerptrk
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#43
On August 16 2012 09:25 Fionn wrote:
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On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote:
Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.


Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.

Or maybe there is just a massive gap in skill and talent?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Tossi83
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:45:06
August 16 2012 10:43 GMT
#44
Da fuq is happening?!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
Gumiho lost to Effort!!! Oo I wonder how many elephants that will receive. Great first game and a strategy made of huge earth sized cojones in second.
... lurking in the shadows.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
August 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#45
On August 16 2012 19:08 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 09:25 Fionn wrote:
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote:
Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.


Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.

Or maybe there is just a massive gap in skill and talent?

yes?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
ckic04
Profile Joined November 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 12:40:05
August 16 2012 12:38 GMT
#46
so much for your predictions...+ Show Spoiler +
all the kespa players moved up LOL
, kespa ftw!
krissless
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland174 Posts
August 16 2012 12:41 GMT
#47
hmmm
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Bjoernzor
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden159 Posts
August 16 2012 12:41 GMT
#48
You should stop predicting against the Kespa players all the time
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love" - Day9
ckic04
Profile Joined November 2010
United States5 Posts
August 16 2012 12:44 GMT
#49
jaedong said "your argument is invalid"
daKar
Profile Joined August 2012
1 Post
August 16 2012 12:48 GMT
#50
Bad Predictions.
Kespa >> all
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
August 16 2012 13:12 GMT
#51
Hahaha, Fionn and Waxangel, you were on yop of your game for the last predictions :D But you failed this one hard : D
minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#52
What about the elephant guys
Bisu, Jangbang <3
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
August 16 2012 13:53 GMT
#53
Hehehe...I wonder what the elephant ratings for Jaedong-Puzzle and Effort-Gumiho will be,
You must construct additional pylons.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 16 2012 13:54 GMT
#54
Just ridiculous... People are saying that they need about 1 year to be as good as current GOM players, but look at this, in just few months, they are on par with Code A players, simply amazing!

I can't wait for HOTS and to see what strategies will they come up with, the KeSPA vs. GOM fight will be amazing!
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#55
A lot of the top GOM players were former BW B-teamers who played well in practice but have nerve issues in front of a TV camera. It's not much of an issue when they are facing each other but many are pretty much wilting when faced with a steely competitor who doesn't care much for the camera.
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
August 16 2012 17:38 GMT
#56
When a Kespa players goes up against Seed, Taeja or Polt or any other player of the highest caliber then we will see who the best Kespa players. Not that these GomTV players aren't great, but with MC and Nestea out they really aren't going up against the best GomTV has to offer.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
August 16 2012 18:55 GMT
#57
That is such a well written article. I may not be a native speaker but I definitely can appreciate that at least to some extent.
There is a clear structure and flow, and diversity of form. Talking about so many matchups should lead to some repetitiveness, but this article doesn't fall into that trap at all. Great Job
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 16 2012 19:39 GMT
#58
nestea is history (hail kas), so is drg.
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Nevertras
Profile Joined October 2011
United States27 Posts
August 16 2012 19:46 GMT
#59
I don't care if Kespa players are better than GOM or vice versa... I just love the rivalry that's developing and getting good games out of it. :3
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#60
I forgot to Liquibet all the Kespa players. :-/
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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