Heart of the Swarm will also include a wider variety of locations, or sets, for players to explore between missions. These sets change dynamically as players complete missions, giving players a sense of an evolving world as Kerrigan makes her presence felt throughout the galaxy

Well, if this really works as intended, it would really be a good substitute the lower number of missions...

Daedalus SEA

81 Posts

June 09 2012 04:20 GMT

#362

Am I the only one who thinks it would be hilarious if PDD worked against the Tempest?

Dingobloo

Australia1903 Posts

June 09 2012 04:23 GMT

#363

On June 09 2012 13:09 nerak wrote:

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Well, if this really works as intended, it would really be a good substitute the lower number of missions...

Don't they just mean a larger variety of the ones that appeared in WoL? Where there were the news reports and clippings and stuff? Not exactly hyped for those.

Waxangel

United States33367 Posts

June 09 2012 05:25 GMT

#364

On June 09 2012 13:20 Daedalus SEA wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it would be hilarious if PDD worked against the Tempest?

it does

epicanthic

Hong Kong295 Posts

June 09 2012 05:39 GMT

#365

Wait...TWENTY TWO RANGE?

IamPryda

United States1186 Posts

June 09 2012 06:59 GMT

#366

lol as a protoss player i have got to laugh at the 22 range unit i really hope it makes it to beta to seem some you tube videos of the shannageins people pull with that. blizzard keeps adding things to protoss late game how about another mid game unit we are the only race to not get one

Salteador Neo

Andorra5591 Posts

June 09 2012 07:01 GMT

#367

On June 09 2012 09:03 Sailincieri wrote:

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Wait, what?!
So i should build this Mine in factory, loss resources, loss time in factory for it, and then kill 1 (ONE!) unit with it? Realy?!

Zerg gets scorpion from mortal kombat, 'defiler', underground broodlords and more, and I get Mine? Great...

Do you usually play with pros?

Sigh, QQers gonna QQ.

JustPassingBy

10776 Posts

June 09 2012 07:01 GMT

#368

Holy crap, that ultralisk upgrade looks imba, however so does the mine I guess, depending on how it places himself and how much it costs. But without the frenzy upgrade, it means that mass thor stand a chance against mass ultra!

zeratul_jf

United States808 Posts

June 09 2012 07:12 GMT

#369

idk it seems like terran bio is going to be out of the game since its gonna be so easy to kill with the pull some tanks over here and then choose between fungal or cloud to roll your banelings over the marines. Also Toss being able to recall from anywhere super early? oh you out of position no problem! i hope the beta testing makes some changes because right now seems like terrans are gonna be really really bad in HotS

RedMosquito

United States280 Posts

June 09 2012 07:13 GMT

#370

Anyone else think the oracle is kind of silly? The problem with it is its too fast and can be accessed so quickly. I really couldn't see a player losing one EVER. You could have like 4 or 5 flying around entombing everything constantly. Sure the other player could build spores or turrets to defend but until mutas or vikings are made you really cant kill them. They can just camp out all game behind a players base. I dont know something doesn;t seem right with it

squidster

United States19 Posts

June 09 2012 07:47 GMT

#371

This game seems amazing.
People don't need to worry about balance right now, it'll be fixed and tweaked over time... metagames will develop and things will be ok.

But as for the state of the game, it seems much more brood war esque and seems to reward better play much more.

The oracle seems to be a unit that early game is gonna be a little annoying (requires apm to have units / drones atk it) but late game is gonna be just a test of who has more apm.
Swarm host seems to move the game in a direction where the fights last much longer and are much more back and forth tempo based, kind of like how brood war fights would last for a long time across multiple screens.

The mine looks like it'll be another thing that early game, every pro will be able to split and take minimal damage, but late game in big fights it'll be potentially devastating and incredibly hard to avoid the dmg from it.

Strategy wise the game looks to be more interesting as well. What can instant energy max from mothership core do with early sentry pushes? How about defensive teching with only 1 or 2 sentries who can forcefield 20 times.

Tempest looking to make the game look way more interesting late game and making positions matter so much more.

Anywho
I'm really excited for this game.

S3iizure

United States6 Posts

June 09 2012 08:04 GMT

#372

I'm really intrested to see how this 22 range thing works out, seems a bit overkill IMO, even if it has a low dps.

gh0st

United States98 Posts

June 09 2012 08:06 GMT

#373

The abduct ability looks cartoony and dumb. It pushes the whole suspend disbelief thing to accept that this flying defiler thing can go all "get over here" scorpion-style to a massive 'toss war machine (colossus), which must weigh some ungodly amount. it just looks really really stupid.

What's the purpose of the swarm host? It looks out of character with the rest of zerg units too.

ionize

Ireland399 Posts

June 09 2012 08:08 GMT

#374

Some of the new units and/or abilities remind me of Brood War units/abilities. So Blizzard does implement old, well-proven stuff and new stuff as well. I like that.
The screenshots look amazing. I'm really looking forward to the new tylesets and units. I also like the idea of a non-ranked match-making system. It reminds me of League of Legends and will provide us with a way to play Starcraft 2 HotS without feeling pressure.

SayGen

United States1209 Posts

June 09 2012 08:13 GMT

#375

RIP terran.

Time for the BroToss to reign supreme

Fencar

United States2694 Posts

June 09 2012 08:22 GMT

#376

I like the changes a lot.

Now Terran just needs a buff to the Ghost or a further buff to the Reaper to keep Bio play viable in TvZ.

nimdil

Poland3748 Posts

June 09 2012 08:24 GMT

#377

On June 09 2012 17:04 S3iizure wrote:
I'm really intrested to see how this 22 range thing works out, seems a bit overkill IMO, even if it has a low dps.

True. But it does no splash damage so marines can attack it effectively. I still think that 22 is too much but it should be rather easy to balance with the right price. It has it weaknesses and honestly I think they can work a bit like carriers in pvt brood war. You can maneuver long range attack and run for cover if Vikings show up. Also observer sniping will be essential. I'm not sure how zergs are supposed to fight with it. I guess brute force...

Garmer

1286 Posts

June 09 2012 08:24 GMT

#378

On June 09 2012 14:25 Waxangel wrote:

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it does

this is interesting, because it make raven less useless

StatixEx

United Kingdom779 Posts

June 09 2012 08:28 GMT

#379

if i dont buy the expansion cos i dont care about single player, can i still play multiplayer? ~Will battle net update the stuff i need?

blackhole12

42 Posts

June 09 2012 08:48 GMT

#380

On June 09 2012 16:13 RedMosquito wrote:
Anyone else think the oracle is kind of silly? The problem with it is its too fast and can be accessed so quickly. I really couldn't see a player losing one EVER. You could have like 4 or 5 flying around entombing everything constantly. Sure the other player could build spores or turrets to defend but until mutas or vikings are made you really cant kill them. They can just camp out all game behind a players base. I dont know something doesn;t seem right with it

Yeah, it's bizarre they have so much shields and so little hp. They're already quick, just micro them if you don't want them to take damage. :/