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On May 20 2012 01:10 Scootaloo wrote:
Squirtle better player, MVP better race, let's hope Blizzard actually nerfs terran now, +5 sec racks building time, lol.
Funny how to make people stop whining about 4gate they shove in a massive nerf, yet 1-1-1 and all the other shit terran can pull are just "part of the game".
Oh well just 2 more years to having a complete protoss race, let's hope people still play toss then or at all.

On May 20 2012 01:20 Potthead wrote:


Are you fucking kidding me.

On May 20 2012 01:33 Scootaloo wrote:

Over a year since a toss gsl win and even what is supposed to be a strong point for them is just negated by broken terran cheese and mules.
And ofcourse I'm talking about the highest levels, you being a bad diamond level terran says nothing.

On May 20 2012 01:57 Kekeolele wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 20 2012 02:13 Disposition1989 wrote:

and you know more right? mvp made 1 less mistake than squirtle in that final game, so he lost. that isnt anything balance related

On May 20 2012 01:10 Scootaloo wrote:
Squirtle better player, MVP better race, let's hope Blizzard actually nerfs terran now, +5 sec racks building time, lol.
Funny how to make people stop whining about 4gate they shove in a massive nerf, yet 1-1-1 and all the other shit terran can pull are just "part of the game".
Oh well just 2 more years to having a complete protoss race, let's hope people still play toss then or at all.

On May 20 2012 03:31 Scootaloo wrote:
Good gods I caused a lot of terran butthurt, obviously the point you're all missing, which terrans never consider due to the dangers of bursting bubbles is the vast array builds terran can do, which, with their supreme ability to deny scouting this means a toss needs to prepare for several different ones, combine that with needing perfect micro to hold and very little such stress on the terran and you got a broken matchup.

Combine that with with mules that allow you to macro when pulling ALL your freaking SCV's, who needs zealots right?

Also consider, what kind of player decides the last game based on a coinflip build? He simply must've realized Squirtle was the superior player and took a page from the big book of terran cheese.

Not to mention that MVP has carpal tunnel syndrome and his APM is lacking, kinda funny how much APM you need to play/cheese as high level terran to beat a far quicker toss.

On May 20 2012 04:15 Ripebananaa wrote:

No, you obviously missed the point they were all making.

You don't have a very good understanding of the game. The better player doesn't always win, there's a reason it was 3-3, and not 4-0. If squirtle played the last game properly, he would have won. Nestea is relatively slow, and is more successful than most people. Decision making is vastly more important than speed.

Now, I'm a toss and zerg player, so I'm not a butthurt terran defending Mvp, you're just not a very good analyst.

On May 20 2012 03:31 Scootaloo wrote:
Good gods I caused a lot of terran butthurt, obviously the point you're all missing, which terrans never consider due to the dangers of bursting bubbles is the vast array builds terran can do, which, with their supreme ability to deny scouting this means a toss needs to prepare for several different ones, combine that with needing perfect micro to hold and very little such stress on the terran and you got a broken matchup.

Combine that with with mules that allow you to macro when pulling ALL your freaking SCV's, who needs zealots right?

Also consider, what kind of player decides the last game based on a coinflip build? He simply must've realized Squirtle was the superior player and took a page from the big book of terran cheese.

Not to mention that MVP has carpal tunnel syndrome and his APM is lacking, kinda funny how much APM you need to play/cheese as high level terran to beat a far quicker toss.

Edit: almost forgot, nerfing history, when toss get's nerfed, a upgrade get's completely removed or delayed with 30 sec or so, completely killing a strategy, apart from early game PvZ do you ever see void ray harass anymore? (NOT a vray allin)
Or the removal of Kaydarin, only now do we see templar focussed play again, and only for the people confident enougj to take on the micro, as their stupidly slow speed and nonexistant HP without a cheap cloak or burrow makes them sitting ducks.
Most of the terran nerfs have been slight tweakings of build times or stats, hellions are still excessively powerful against workers, while the voidray will most likely remain exclusive to zerg earlygame and the occasional all in.