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On May 20 2012 03:04 aznball123 wrote:
Just wanted to add, game 5 was only hyped so much because of the BCs and Archon toilet. I'm 100% sure if Mvp went bio and won, the game would've been a 1 star.
First of all, that whole game was pretty great. Secondly, no shit if the game had been different we would've reacted differently. That's like saying, hey that guy won the race. I'm 100% sure if he had crossed the finish line second he wouldn't have won.
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On May 20 2012 05:08 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 03:31 Scootaloo wrote:
Good gods I caused a lot of terran butthurt, obviously the point you're all missing, which terrans never consider due to the dangers of bursting bubbles is the vast array builds terran can do, which, with their supreme ability to deny scouting this means a toss needs to prepare for several different ones, combine that with needing perfect micro to hold and very little such stress on the terran and you got a broken matchup.
Combine that with with mules that allow you to macro when pulling ALL your freaking SCV's, who needs zealots right?
Also consider, what kind of player decides the last game based on a coinflip build? He simply must've realized Squirtle was the superior player and took a page from the big book of terran cheese.
Not to mention that MVP has carpal tunnel syndrome and his APM is lacking, kinda funny how much APM you need to play/cheese as high level terran to beat a far quicker toss.
Edit: almost forgot, nerfing history, when toss get's nerfed, a upgrade get's completely removed or delayed with 30 sec or so, completely killing a strategy, apart from early game PvZ do you ever see void ray harass anymore? (NOT a vray allin)
Or the removal of Kaydarin, only now do we see templar focussed play again, and only for the people confident enougj to take on the micro, as their stupidly slow speed and nonexistant HP without a cheap cloak or burrow makes them sitting ducks.
Most of the terran nerfs have been slight tweakings of build times or stats, hellions are still excessively powerful against workers, while the voidray will most likely remain exclusive to zerg earlygame and the occasional all in. 'needing perfect micro' lol, you sir have never played Terran. 'how much APM' lol#2, not like it's plain notorious that T players have the highest average APM. 'removal of Kaydarin' LOL O L O L are you SERIOUSLY discussing that very nerf? fucking amazing. MVP outplayed three StarTale tosses in a row during an all-out toss-favored season, it makes him an ASTONISHING born-winner, and the best sc2 player to date. stop discussing it by bitching about his genius cheese (cause yes, that was a genius cheese), it's disrespectful and stupid. P.S: and LOWL please, you're not playing random.
Silly me, I thought literally copying your baseless insults would make you realize their stupidity, hah.
Then again that might be a bit too much to ask from a guy who feels a compulsive need to type "OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL".
I do play terran, that's how random works kid, from your micro comment I can however discern you don't play toss, or at least not at any level I would take seriously, let me reiterate, your wood leaguea experience means nothing.
And usually terran has a higher APM, most because micro makes their units far more effective then for most toss or zerg units, MVP however has CTS, meaning his APM isn't high right now. Unlike that of Squirtle.
Outplayed 3 tosses? More like cheesed 3 tosses, as toss is by far the most vulnerable race to cheese and he kept hitting toss it's more like when Inca got to the finals purely on PvP, able to do 1 thing really good but mediocre at the rest, Cheesing is MVPs PvP.
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On May 20 2012 05:19 Bijan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 03:04 aznball123 wrote:
Just wanted to add, game 5 was only hyped so much because of the BCs and Archon toilet. I'm 100% sure if Mvp went bio and won, the game would've been a 1 star. First of all, that whole game was pretty great. Secondly, no shit if the game had been different we would've reacted differently. That's like saying, hey that guy won the race. I'm 100% sure if he had crossed the finish line second he wouldn't have won.
Whole game? LOL they sat at their bases for 30 minutes and had only 2 battles.
Even if Mvp went bio and lost to Squirtle's death ball, it would've been 1 star too. Fail analogy is fail.
Edit: Basically, it was only good because it had BCs/Toilet.
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On May 20 2012 05:47 Scootaloo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:08 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:On May 20 2012 03:31 Scootaloo wrote:
Good gods I caused a lot of terran butthurt, obviously the point you're all missing, which terrans never consider due to the dangers of bursting bubbles is the vast array builds terran can do, which, with their supreme ability to deny scouting this means a toss needs to prepare for several different ones, combine that with needing perfect micro to hold and very little such stress on the terran and you got a broken matchup.
Combine that with with mules that allow you to macro when pulling ALL your freaking SCV's, who needs zealots right?
Also consider, what kind of player decides the last game based on a coinflip build? He simply must've realized Squirtle was the superior player and took a page from the big book of terran cheese.
Not to mention that MVP has carpal tunnel syndrome and his APM is lacking, kinda funny how much APM you need to play/cheese as high level terran to beat a far quicker toss.
Edit: almost forgot, nerfing history, when toss get's nerfed, a upgrade get's completely removed or delayed with 30 sec or so, completely killing a strategy, apart from early game PvZ do you ever see void ray harass anymore? (NOT a vray allin)
Or the removal of Kaydarin, only now do we see templar focussed play again, and only for the people confident enougj to take on the micro, as their stupidly slow speed and nonexistant HP without a cheap cloak or burrow makes them sitting ducks.
Most of the terran nerfs have been slight tweakings of build times or stats, hellions are still excessively powerful against workers, while the voidray will most likely remain exclusive to zerg earlygame and the occasional all in. 'needing perfect micro' lol, you sir have never played Terran. 'how much APM' lol#2, not like it's plain notorious that T players have the highest average APM. 'removal of Kaydarin' LOL O L O L are you SERIOUSLY discussing that very nerf? fucking amazing. MVP outplayed three StarTale tosses in a row during an all-out toss-favored season, it makes him an ASTONISHING born-winner, and the best sc2 player to date. stop discussing it by bitching about his genius cheese (cause yes, that was a genius cheese), it's disrespectful and stupid. P.S: and LOWL please, you're not playing random. Silly me, I thought literally copying your baseless insults would make you realize their stupidity, hah. Then again that might be a bit too much to ask from a guy who feels a compulsive need to type "OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL". I do play terran, that's how random works kid, from your micro comment I can however discern you don't play toss, or at least not at any level I would take seriously, let me reiterate, your wood leaguea experience means nothing. And usually terran has a higher APM, most because micro makes their units far more effective then for most toss or zerg units, MVP however has CTS, meaning his APM isn't high right now. Unlike that of Squirtle. Outplayed 3 tosses? More like cheesed 3 tosses, as toss is by far the most vulnerable race to cheese and he kept hitting toss it's more like when Inca got to the finals purely on PvP, able to do 1 thing really good but mediocre at the rest, Cheesing is MVPs PvP.
troll some where else u bronze noob u think terran micro is easy? APM=/=better player(typical bronze noob thought) did u see mvp decision making in that game like i said CHAMPION going be a champion while bronze like u who complain imbalance stay bronze forever
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On May 19 2012 21:41 markrevival wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 20:41 Random_Guy09 wrote:
Yep remove that mule and Squirtle wins. Sad how the series went out.. Who really cares if you know the map is bad for the match up, suck it up and play out the game and make it a good final and show your better by forgetting about the little map advantages. Prove that those factors dont matter and that your the better player that doesnt need those kind of excuses.
The only game out of this year in any tournament that I'd rewatch that had something like that happen was HuK vs Naniwa at MLG. Because that game actually showed talent from both players. This 7th game on the other hand seems to make it look like MVP was scared to face Squirtle in a straight up macro game again "because the map is better for protoss". If thats the excuse to cheese then its a tainted win and you just look bad for it.
Naniwa cheeses in a meaningless game. MVP goes on and cheeses cause of some disadvantage to his race on a certain map and there will be no reprocussions for it. Could have been an all round good series for a Final but it had to end like this. did you actually just compare MVP's brilliant game 7 to Naniwa's incredibly disrespectful probe rush? What the hell?
Just ignore this guy. He is a troll and clearly hates starcraft. Game 7 was absolutely brilliant. No one can cheese like MVP, I can't honestly remember a game where he has done something like this and failed. His micro is just the best in the world. Except for maybe MKP, no one even comes close.
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