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First Glimpse: 2012 Battle.Net World Championship - Page 5

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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 26 2012 08:19 GMT
#81
China really is the magnet. After seeing crowds at wcg 2009 cant really blame them.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15345 Posts
January 26 2012 08:30 GMT
#82
Next time ask them to embed ESPORTS event streams into the client please, so we can correct these ridiculous LoL numbers.
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
January 26 2012 08:32 GMT
#83
On January 26 2012 16:06 Dakkas wrote:
After some thought, I would have been hoping for a team tourny as well though the prospect of the 'World Cup' is exciting nonetheless

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 15:49 heartlxp wrote:
WOW the prize pool statement is a HUGE letdown, if you compare yourself to the World Cup, at least have equivalent prizes. Think about how much FIFA puts into their world championships. Riot and Valve are not pulling "stunts" when they offer big prize pools, they are showing their dedication and commitment to their product. repeating "grassroots" in hopes of someone else coming along to foot the bill is a gigantic cop-out. Especially coming from a multi-billion dollar company.


You're misinterpreting the statement there. They are pulling stunts because a large part of pulling "stunts" is about the attraction, which was one of the main purposes of the massive prizepools. They announced a gigantic amount of money to win (note that Riot announced the $2mil prize not long after Valve announced the $1mil prize for DOTA2) to give those scenes a big massive kickstart in terms of e-sports infrastructure. Of course they were going to succeed anyway however it would have been much longer before they reach the level that SC2 has in terms of global e-sports coverage.

Up until that, neither games have anything that competes with what SC2 has, MLG, IEM, DH and GSL.

That said I can agree with the sentiment, having a large prize-pool should be a main criteria for hosting a SC2 'World Cup'. It doesn't need to be as frivolous as $1mil but something considerable.


Yeah LoL doesn't have MLG, IEM, DH, and GSL, they have to settle for MLG, IEM, DH, and OGN...
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 26 2012 08:35 GMT
#84
It's really dissapointing they won't have a blizzcon. I went to blizzcon this year - my 2 best friends and I were going to see a friend a CA, and thought why not go to blizzcon while we met up in San Diego anyways. $175 was well worth the ticket price (i actually sold off enough stuff to get back triple the amount of the ticket, seeing as I dont' have much money I had to sell the stuff I wish I could've kept, to have been able to go, and I didn't sell anything special that no one else didn't have access to either).

I would've much preferred blizzcon to just another tournament. How is this going to be better than just another month of GSL?
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SunTzuEU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden221 Posts
January 26 2012 08:44 GMT
#85
National championship for Sweden please :D
pzu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden287 Posts
January 26 2012 08:53 GMT
#86
Great interview, thank you!
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
January 26 2012 08:55 GMT
#87
This looks really awesome! But I do hope that people who do not belong to the 15-16 countries are not excluded from their continental championship in any way. I'd hate to see Sweden being the only Nordic country allowed to send a player to the continental championship, for instance. At the very least, if they don't go for every nation being able to send someone, they should allow nearby countries to compete with each other. So that for instance, all Nordic players would be able to compete in Stockholm or whereever.

Personally, the format I would love to see was that every country would have a spot if they managed to meet some requirements. Like for instance that Blizzard would only accept their representative if he was the winner of a qualifier being held through a serious national eSports site or organization, and that the qualifiers should be completely open and announced x weeks in advance. That way, even small countries would be able to compete.

There could also, possibly, be some arbitrary requirement about the size of the qualifiers, say, at least 128 or 256 players. It does sound like a lot for some small countries, but it doesn't need to be 256 GM/Master players, but instead, with the spirit of the thing, 256 players of any calibre. That means that the national eSports site could write something along the lines of "OK, people, we need 256 players to play in this qualifier in order to get our national champion to the finals. Come on, you Bronze players, support eSports!". This would have three positive effects: One, low-level players would feel that they help their local hero along by joining in, even though they're virtually chanceless to win themselves. Two, it would stay true to the grassroot idea, getting more people to compete and possibly getting them interested in doing it seriously. And three, it would determine just how serious the eSport site/organization would be. If they can't even rally 256 players of any calibre in order to support their local hero, they're not doing it right. Exceptions could be made for really small countries, like Andorra etc.

Finally, Blizzard should have an official page listing all the sites that have the responsibility of picking their national hero. If there's just no site for a given country and there's someone from that country who really wishes to compete, they could send an application directly to Blizzard and Blizzard would set up a fitting tournament in order to crown the champion, or, in cooperation with some nearby country, assign him to compete in his neighbouring country.

Those are my 2 cents.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 26 2012 09:00 GMT
#88
Hope map pool isn't awful.
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:04:29
January 26 2012 09:01 GMT
#89
Blizzard takes the second huge step forward in regards to promote eSports on a global level (the first huge step was to build a game completely for the purpose of being an eSports). This is HUGE, my mind is blown O.O
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Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
January 26 2012 09:03 GMT
#90
This is amazing news. I think most people don't realize how much it will mean to a lot of players to be called "National Champion." I believe the guys had a discussion about this sort of thing on SOTG when blizzard first announced the battle.net invitational.

Go team amurrrica :p
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
January 26 2012 09:11 GMT
#91
The things they will do this year.... will make BlizzCup 2011 seem like a basement event. They really steped up their pase.

Really looking forward....judging by articles ive seen this year should be atleast double in quality compared to last year!

Thumbs up are up
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 26 2012 09:13 GMT
#92
Blizzard seems to really have a huge plan for transitioning SC2 into an eSports game this year. Hope they really act on pro feedback faster. Especially with HotS coming soon.
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:19:15
January 26 2012 09:18 GMT
#93
This does really sound incredible awesome. I dreamed of the event last night and it was COOL. Altough it was kinda wacky in my dream xD.

The fact that Blizzard is cooperating with other companies gives me good feeling the map pool is gonna be a good one this time.

Man really looking forward to this :D

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:22:29
January 26 2012 09:19 GMT
#94
On January 26 2012 18:13 pdd wrote:
Blizzard seems to really have a huge plan for transitioning SC2 into an eSports game this year. Hope they really act on pro feedback faster. Especially with HotS coming soon.


What do u mean..it's already the bigest e-sport game atm (considered a true blood esport and accnowledged by everyone who watches it even once..compared to other games that still have image problems when it comes down to e-sports, not being aknowledged by everyone - ex: LoL) ...considering other games began slowly dieing a long time ago O.o No need for transitioning lol..maybe growing it EVEN MOAR!...and yea..HoTS :S can't wait for it!
U MAD BRO?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:24:20
January 26 2012 09:23 GMT
#95
On January 26 2012 18:19 ReboundEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 18:13 pdd wrote:
Blizzard seems to really have a huge plan for transitioning SC2 into an eSports game this year. Hope they really act on pro feedback faster. Especially with HotS coming soon.


What do u mean..it's already the bigest e-sport game atm (considered a true blood esport and accnowledged by everyone who watches it even once..compared to other games that still have image problems when it comes down to e-sports) ...considering other games began slowly dieing a long time ago O.o No need for transitioning lol..maybe growing it EVEN MOAR!...and yea..HoTS :S can't wait for it!

I think LoL is the becoming the biggest esport game at the moment. Sad but true. For a long time Blizzard ignored a lot of the complains that people had regarding balance, the map pool, and in general support to organizers (besides Gretech). That's why we had the travesty of the Blizzcon SC2 tournament.

This interview, makes it sound like they're really trying to increase their support for it to really cater less towards casuals and more towards pro-players.
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ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:29:33
January 26 2012 09:29 GMT
#96
Ah....from that point of view yea i understand what u ment....they are starting to take their own game seriously now :D

Regarding LoL... well.... sadly no comment. Next big thing Soliter Online..because 9 million secretaries all over the world cheer for it.
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havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
January 26 2012 09:30 GMT
#97
On January 26 2012 14:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Wow, this is so incredibly cool, I think all of the Blizzard haters just got served XD

although im not a blizzard hater... why exactly do you think so?

i didnt read anything surprisingly awesome. the plan (being the producer of the game) to make a world championship is not really that surprising. Having continental qualifiers? happened before (even for blizzcon). pre-pre-qualifiers? yep, happened before. (wcg etc)
they didnt announce anything unthinkable^^


Furthermore... I'm not sure about the HotS thing. Does that mean that HotS is probably not released in mid/fall 2012? cuz i cant really believe that they would wanna play it out in WoL, if HotS was released several months earlier and everybody is already practicing 100% HotS.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 26 2012 09:33 GMT
#98
On January 26 2012 17:32 Blennd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 16:06 Dakkas wrote:
After some thought, I would have been hoping for a team tourny as well though the prospect of the 'World Cup' is exciting nonetheless

On January 26 2012 15:49 heartlxp wrote:
WOW the prize pool statement is a HUGE letdown, if you compare yourself to the World Cup, at least have equivalent prizes. Think about how much FIFA puts into their world championships. Riot and Valve are not pulling "stunts" when they offer big prize pools, they are showing their dedication and commitment to their product. repeating "grassroots" in hopes of someone else coming along to foot the bill is a gigantic cop-out. Especially coming from a multi-billion dollar company.


You're misinterpreting the statement there. They are pulling stunts because a large part of pulling "stunts" is about the attraction, which was one of the main purposes of the massive prizepools. They announced a gigantic amount of money to win (note that Riot announced the $2mil prize not long after Valve announced the $1mil prize for DOTA2) to give those scenes a big massive kickstart in terms of e-sports infrastructure. Of course they were going to succeed anyway however it would have been much longer before they reach the level that SC2 has in terms of global e-sports coverage.

Up until that, neither games have anything that competes with what SC2 has, MLG, IEM, DH and GSL.

That said I can agree with the sentiment, having a large prize-pool should be a main criteria for hosting a SC2 'World Cup'. It doesn't need to be as frivolous as $1mil but something considerable.


Yeah LoL doesn't have MLG, IEM, DH, and GSL, they have to settle for MLG, IEM, DH, and OGN...


Yes I should have corrected that. More appropriately, SC2 currently has more major tournaments though LoL is only recently starting to catch up. For those venues, SC2 was being used them long before LoL was (barring OGN) which leads me back to my point of the first place. Riot do have a game that will get bigger however that isn't purely because of the game itself being an excellent e-sport, but also to do with the amount of advertising they've also been doing and the prize-money they announced reflects that.
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
January 26 2012 09:41 GMT
#99
On January 26 2012 17:04 nimdil wrote:
I don't like it. in my opinion they should maybe support wcg 2012 instead of directly competing with it. Because while some organizations may be happy about this, i don't see wcg smiling. they could stick to battle.net invitational format and expand wcg which is already established.with national qualifiers.

Nothing really to be excited.about.

I don't think WCG has done a good job with the national qualifiers. Sure, for some countries it was cool; Germany and Russia for example. But for many of the smaller countries there really wasn't much to speak of.

Very excited for this. And i'm also very happy blizzard decided to make this 100% open for everyone. Instead of the Battle.net Invitational where players we're just picked by Blizzard. In my opinion it's events like this that is good for the scene; random ladder gosu #126 will maybe be inspired to practice alot and make a name for himself through this.

This is why i think ESL with the IEM is awesome. Because of their system players like Pomi, Feast, Titan and FXOTarga got a shot at playing with the celebrities. Mad love to Blizzard for doing something like this. Im sure it will be one of the coolest tournaments in 2012!
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Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
January 26 2012 09:45 GMT
#100
Obviously Blizz aren't planning to release HOTS mid 2012, because as already pointed out, it will be a bit of a mess. I like the fact that the game will have considerable amount of time to be polished. HOTS can't afford to screw up, so a longer beta phase would be great. I really hope they will succeed in this project.
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