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On September 14 2011 23:34 claash wrote:
4.im so pissed about toplists where people only compare the top 3 of each country.you gotta compare 5 or 10 at least.so poland isnt there anymore...although i hate to say it because im half polish.
But which nation (execpt Sweden and Korea) has 10 good players, who are comparable? Do you really want to compare Farmer or Spanishiwa or Underdark, or whoever is the 10th strongest player of his respective nation, although he doesn´t have any results? The Ukraine for example has 6 Players with a liquidpedia-page, France has 16. I think it is not about the five or ten or 20 best player of one country, it is about the impact, the players of one country made on the scene and so I think you can put countries like the Ukraine or Poland up there at the top.
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On September 14 2011 19:51 Sphaero wrote:
For the most part, Germany has been the European example of how population and GDP don't seem to have any relation to Starcraft skill. You know, like America! They're both kinda good at Starcraft II, but any compliment beyond that seems like flattery.
Not sure if serious. Especially, because the OP contradicts himself before and after with saying, that Germany is one of the countries with the most representation in this league. It is also the only country outside South Korea that had more than one player in the grand finals and the highest placing among western players.
I think it was just a joke.
The US is without a doubt the worst country in SC2 if you take into account the player base and community involvement. Even a tiny country such as Sweden that has bought 2% of the SC2 copies that the US has, has more top players. I would say that the US doesn't even have one top tier player even in the foreign scene (though a couple of mid-tier ones, such as Idra or TT1).
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I don't understand how they think strelok > sen select and ret.
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On September 14 2011 23:41 grobo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 23:13 sVnteen wrote:so guys i understand its the NORTH AMERICAN starleague and the elite of NA has to be a part of that but world elite is something different and certainly not Vibe cruncher TT1(not anymore) inka tyler incontrol or axlav in my opinion most of them will just get horribly annihilated while players like nerchio goody happy adelscott tarson are just sitting around at home waiting to destroy all of them idk .... On September 14 2011 08:41 Sandro wrote:So many pretty pictures of Lindsay  On September 14 2011 08:40 The Void wrote:
usa overastimate themself like evertime...
korean will take it... and germany - at least will go well...
edit: excellent ^^ imo it will be: Korea #1 Ukraine #2 Sweden #3 sweden? who should take it for sweden ? haypro - o wait did he have a single top10 finish yet jinro - maybe but i think hes not i good shape atm (maybe because of the metagame atm) sjow - yeah he has the potential but he never quite seems to be able to beat everyone who will stand in his way Ever heard of Morrow? easily the best swede out of the ones participating. Maybe you guys have heard of Thorzain and Naniwa? There's also Jimpo, Lalush, Merz, ZpuX etc etc.
edit: Oh, I see you mean in the NASL 2 roster. Dayum, for a moment I thought people dare question Sweden's domination in foreign SC2. :D
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I think HawaiianPig needs to get laid ;o
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gotta love lindsay sporrer! :D
nice background on the post
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Funny how nobody mentions MaNa as the winner od division 2, i see him loosing maybe 1 set vs HuK if he brings his best. (Mana beat Huk 2 times lately but he was travelling a lot so might by an excuse) Mana is God of PVT beating Puma and Nada without any problems, rain will fall apart like a child, PvZ is hardest for mana but he beat Darkforce in Dreamhack i belive (or w/e) and haypro is just bad.
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Typo in the OP, Kas failed to quality
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mmm to bad only has some of european beasts in there missing alot of them. Well best of luck i chose not to buy a ticked this season but if all things go well this time i am sure to buy one for season 3.
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On September 15 2011 02:00 Larryx wrote:
Funny how nobody mentions MaNa as the winner od division 2, i see him loosing maybe 1 set vs HuK if he brings his best. (Mana beat Huk 2 times lately but he was travelling a lot so might by an excuse) Mana is God of PVT beating Puma and Nada without any problems, rain will fall apart like a child, PvZ is hardest for mana but he beat Darkforce in Dreamhack i belive (or w/e) and haypro is just bad.
Rain is gosu dude.. it's between him and Mana in that division imho.. Huk looks worn out.
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I really do not understand Prospectus logic on why Fenix will finish last in Division A. But great write-up as usual and looking forward to a hopefully improved NASL experience.
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On September 15 2011 02:22 skiptomylou1231 wrote:
I really do not understand Prospectus logic on why Fenix will finish last in Division A. But great write-up as usual and looking forward to a hopefully improved NASL experience.
Hahah yeah.. he's trying to compensate.. none would understand otherwise, how you'd rank Fenix behind Vibe. IMHO, If Fenix has been training 14hrs a day for the past 2 months with MVP, Nestea and Yongwa I can't see him losing a single TvZ game tbh.. he might lose a game against White-ra and Demuslim though.
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Read the article, prospectus isn't a person it's elo rankings, fenix hasn't done well in international tournaments lately so he's last there.
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haha that blonde chick is everywhere
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Nice writeup. LOL @ all the Lindsey graphics
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On September 14 2011 23:02 R3N wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 22:28 n00b3rt wrote:
Judging from the pics, esports has surely gotten big in teh USA Not so much SC2. Americans still going on with their laughable console FPS rather than SC2 that actually requires thinking.
You really shouldn't lump entire countries together. America has plenty of huge SC2 fans and players, just look at MLG events.
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On September 15 2011 02:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 23:02 R3N wrote:On September 14 2011 22:28 n00b3rt wrote:
Judging from the pics, esports has surely gotten big in teh USA Not so much SC2. Americans still going on with their laughable console FPS rather than SC2 that actually requires thinking. You really shouldn't lump entire countries together. America has plenty of huge SC2 fans and players, just look at MLG events.
MLG also includes console fps. They take too much of US E-sport scene. Look at the foreign SC2 scene, how many of the best are americans? The disparity wasn't large if existent at all years ago.
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Great writeup! Excited to see the second season, since I thought they improved dramatically from the first to last weeks of the online portion.
Oh, and the epic Darkforce finals matches against Alive? Definitely made me a fan 
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On September 14 2011 13:06 legendre20 wrote:
What the fuck was all that shit about the US conspiracy to keep Koreans dominant in eSports?.. Because of the BEEF industry? Either you tried way too hard to troll us, thought no one would read that far down and decided to put something stupid at the bottom, or you are in fact retarded.
Ever heard of a joke before?
On September 14 2011 23:34 claash wrote:
"For the most part, Germany has been the European example of how population and GDP don't seem to have any relation to Starcraft skill. You know, like America! "
the guy who wrote this got no clue and should get another job.comparing a strong sc-nation like germany with the USA...
1.its not about a GDP or the population.its all about the amount of players who do it fulltime.its not a provocation but the truth:the ukraine is one of the poorest countries in europe.all players can do it fulltime and 90 percent of all german players still go to college.if all of them would do it full time they would be better than the ukraine immediately because germany got the highest amount of players in europe.
2.germany took a LOT of bo3s against the ukraine recently and germany was the country with the highest amount of players in the NASL and won the european nation war.
3.a country like the UK would rock at sc2 as well but they are more into console-games.the brits dont have less skill in their blood you know? its not about the general population its all about the population who plays intensively
4.im so pissed about toplists where people only compare the top 3 of each country.you gotta compare 5 or 10 at least.so poland isnt there anymore...although i hate to say it because im half polish.
You too.
I'll be looking forward to the ZvGs
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