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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
September 14 2011 15:23 GMT
#241
On September 14 2011 23:34 claash wrote:
4.im so pissed about toplists where people only compare the top 3 of each country.you gotta compare 5 or 10 at least.so poland isnt there anymore...although i hate to say it because im half polish.


But which nation (execpt Sweden and Korea) has 10 good players, who are comparable? Do you really want to compare Farmer or Spanishiwa or Underdark, or whoever is the 10th strongest player of his respective nation, although he doesn´t have any results? The Ukraine for example has 6 Players with a liquidpedia-page, France has 16. I think it is not about the five or ten or 20 best player of one country, it is about the impact, the players of one country made on the scene and so I think you can put countries like the Ukraine or Poland up there at the top.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
September 14 2011 15:49 GMT
#242
On September 14 2011 19:51 Sphaero wrote:
For the most part, Germany has been the European example of how population and GDP don't seem to have any relation to Starcraft skill. You know, like America! They're both kinda good at Starcraft II, but any compliment beyond that seems like flattery.

Not sure if serious. Especially, because the OP contradicts himself before and after with saying, that Germany is one of the countries with the most representation in this league. It is also the only country outside South Korea that had more than one player in the grand finals and the highest placing among western players.

I think it was just a joke.

The US is without a doubt the worst country in SC2 if you take into account the player base and community involvement. Even a tiny country such as Sweden that has bought 2% of the SC2 copies that the US has, has more top players. I would say that the US doesn't even have one top tier player even in the foreign scene (though a couple of mid-tier ones, such as Idra or TT1).
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
ZergBonjwa
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada104 Posts
September 14 2011 15:49 GMT
#243
I don't understand how they think strelok > sen select and ret.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 16:30:05
September 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#244
On September 14 2011 23:41 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 23:13 sVnteen wrote:
so guys

i understand its the NORTH AMERICAN starleague and the elite of NA has to be a part of that but world elite is something different and certainly not Vibe cruncher TT1(not anymore) inka tyler incontrol or axlav in my opinion

most of them will just get horribly annihilated while players like nerchio goody happy adelscott tarson are just sitting around at home waiting to destroy all of them

idk ....



On September 14 2011 08:41 Sandro wrote:
So many pretty pictures of Lindsay
On September 14 2011 08:40 The Void wrote:
usa overastimate themself like evertime...

korean will take it... and germany - at least will go well...

edit: excellent ^^


imo it will be:

Korea #1
Ukraine #2
Sweden #3


sweden?
who should take it for sweden ?

haypro - o wait did he have a single top10 finish yet
jinro - maybe but i think hes not i good shape atm (maybe because of the metagame atm)
sjow - yeah he has the potential but he never quite seems to be able to beat everyone who will stand in his way


Ever heard of Morrow? easily the best swede out of the ones participating.
Maybe you guys have heard of Thorzain and Naniwa? There's also Jimpo, Lalush, Merz, ZpuX etc etc.

edit: Oh, I see you mean in the NASL 2 roster. Dayum, for a moment I thought people dare question Sweden's domination in foreign SC2. :D
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Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 14 2011 16:25 GMT
#245
I think HawaiianPig needs to get laid ;o
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
krayzy
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium66 Posts
September 14 2011 16:50 GMT
#246
gotta love lindsay sporrer! :D
nice background on the post
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Larryx
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:07:26
September 14 2011 17:00 GMT
#247
Funny how nobody mentions MaNa as the winner od division 2, i see him loosing maybe 1 set vs HuK if he brings his best. (Mana beat Huk 2 times lately but he was travelling a lot so might by an excuse) Mana is God of PVT beating Puma and Nada without any problems, rain will fall apart like a child, PvZ is hardest for mana but he beat Darkforce in Dreamhack i belive (or w/e) and haypro is just bad.
MANA & NERCHIO HWAITING!
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 14 2011 17:00 GMT
#248
Typo in the OP, Kas failed to quality
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 14 2011 17:12 GMT
#249
mmm to bad only has some of european beasts in there missing alot of them. Well best of luck i chose not to buy a ticked this season but if all things go well this time i am sure to buy one for season 3.
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
September 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#250
off topic: boner alert
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 14 2011 17:22 GMT
#251
On September 15 2011 02:00 Larryx wrote:
Funny how nobody mentions MaNa as the winner od division 2, i see him loosing maybe 1 set vs HuK if he brings his best. (Mana beat Huk 2 times lately but he was travelling a lot so might by an excuse) Mana is God of PVT beating Puma and Nada without any problems, rain will fall apart like a child, PvZ is hardest for mana but he beat Darkforce in Dreamhack i belive (or w/e) and haypro is just bad.


Rain is gosu dude.. it's between him and Mana in that division imho.. Huk looks worn out.
skiptomylou1231
Profile Joined January 2011
United States63 Posts
September 14 2011 17:22 GMT
#252
I really do not understand Prospectus logic on why Fenix will finish last in Division A. But great write-up as usual and looking forward to a hopefully improved NASL experience.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
September 14 2011 17:28 GMT
#253
On September 15 2011 02:22 skiptomylou1231 wrote:
I really do not understand Prospectus logic on why Fenix will finish last in Division A. But great write-up as usual and looking forward to a hopefully improved NASL experience.


Hahah yeah.. he's trying to compensate.. none would understand otherwise, how you'd rank Fenix behind Vibe. IMHO, If Fenix has been training 14hrs a day for the past 2 months with MVP, Nestea and Yongwa I can't see him losing a single TvZ game tbh.. he might lose a game against White-ra and Demuslim though.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
September 14 2011 17:33 GMT
#254
Read the article, prospectus isn't a person it's elo rankings, fenix hasn't done well in international tournaments lately so he's last there.
crystyxn
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania254 Posts
September 14 2011 17:45 GMT
#255
haha that blonde chick is everywhere
"You should be the one putting pressure on your opponent, not the other way around." - Artosis
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 14 2011 17:48 GMT
#256
Nice writeup. LOL @ all the Lindsey graphics
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 14 2011 17:51 GMT
#257
On September 14 2011 23:02 R3N wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 22:28 n00b3rt wrote:
Judging from the pics, esports has surely gotten big in teh USA


Not so much SC2. Americans still going on with their laughable console FPS rather than SC2 that actually requires thinking.

You really shouldn't lump entire countries together. America has plenty of huge SC2 fans and players, just look at MLG events.
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R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
September 14 2011 18:01 GMT
#258
On September 15 2011 02:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 23:02 R3N wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:28 n00b3rt wrote:
Judging from the pics, esports has surely gotten big in teh USA


Not so much SC2. Americans still going on with their laughable console FPS rather than SC2 that actually requires thinking.

You really shouldn't lump entire countries together. America has plenty of huge SC2 fans and players, just look at MLG events.


MLG also includes console fps. They take too much of US E-sport scene. Look at the foreign SC2 scene, how many of the best are americans? The disparity wasn't large if existent at all years ago.
Gestalt
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
September 14 2011 18:30 GMT
#259
Great writeup! Excited to see the second season, since I thought they improved dramatically from the first to last weeks of the online portion.

Oh, and the epic Darkforce finals matches against Alive? Definitely made me a fan
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#260
On September 14 2011 13:06 legendre20 wrote:
What the fuck was all that shit about the US conspiracy to keep Koreans dominant in eSports?.. Because of the BEEF industry? Either you tried way too hard to troll us, thought no one would read that far down and decided to put something stupid at the bottom, or you are in fact retarded.


Ever heard of a joke before?


On September 14 2011 23:34 claash wrote:
"For the most part, Germany has been the European example of how population and GDP don't seem to have any relation to Starcraft skill. You know, like America! "

the guy who wrote this got no clue and should get another job.comparing a strong sc-nation like germany with the USA...

1.its not about a GDP or the population.its all about the amount of players who do it fulltime.its not a provocation but the truth:the ukraine is one of the poorest countries in europe.all players can do it fulltime and 90 percent of all german players still go to college.if all of them would do it full time they would be better than the ukraine immediately because germany got the highest amount of players in europe.
2.germany took a LOT of bo3s against the ukraine recently and germany was the country with the highest amount of players in the NASL and won the european nation war.
3.a country like the UK would rock at sc2 as well but they are more into console-games.the brits dont have less skill in their blood you know? its not about the general population its all about the population who plays intensively
4.im so pissed about toplists where people only compare the top 3 of each country.you gotta compare 5 or 10 at least.so poland isnt there anymore...although i hate to say it because im half polish.


You too.

I'll be looking forward to the ZvGs
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