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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
March 26 2011 08:22 GMT
#121
Certainly if Zerg goes 3 base lurker/ling --> defiler (as is the most standard ZvT, with or without the initial mutas) there's not much space for a muta/hydra switch.

Are hydra/lurker midgames, or muta + upgrade aggression (without going all-in), no longer viable? They'd obviously be better suited to a hydra/muta-vs-mech transition.
My strategy is to fork people.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 26 2011 08:30 GMT
#122
On March 26 2011 16:32 Iplaythings wrote:
But when you're supposed to put away the surface bias and be actually somewhat objective instead of subjective you disappoint the hell out of me. Even though other noticeable skt1 fans isn't active, so i cant blame them for picking you after all.

And for me, hating on Stats = me hating on you. (wont disucss that here though :D)

The only real bias is the bit about KT. I honestly think everything else I said is what I think is true. Maybe as a KT fan you'd be pretty inclined to disagree with me, and that's fair. But everything I said is what I really think.
Is what I mentioned about Stats the part that really irked you the most?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
March 26 2011 09:09 GMT
#123
Amazing post! keep the good work up :D
Jaedong HWAITING!
xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
March 26 2011 09:22 GMT
#124
thank you thank you thank you!
tl delivers as usual, only even better and i didnt think that was possible

so hyped about this! april 2! gogo oz!
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
March 26 2011 09:40 GMT
#125
Nice Writing, i am not involved in the BW Scene, but this was a good read
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
March 26 2011 11:27 GMT
#126
Wow, this was a huge and amazing article - much better than most of the SC2 stuff being written imo.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
March 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#127
On March 26 2011 17:22 Severedevil wrote:
Certainly if Zerg goes 3 base lurker/ling --> defiler (as is the most standard ZvT, with or without the initial mutas) there's not much space for a muta/hydra switch.

Are hydra/lurker midgames, or muta + upgrade aggression (without going all-in), no longer viable? They'd obviously be better suited to a hydra/muta-vs-mech transition.


I'd like progamers to experiment with stronger midgame composition as zerg against a terran but I think getting defilers that much later is considered too dangerous by progamers nowadays. On certain map hydra/lurker in the midgame is still feasible though but most progamers won't risk trying it out. I remember Jaedong did that against Light on bloody ridge with some success (he still lost because Light is so amazing at TvZ though).

The biggest problem with your idea though is that hydralurker works best on maps with an open center to flank whilst Mech prefers some cramped space to avoid flanks so on mosts maps where hydralurker is feasible the terran is not even going to mech switch and keep going bio anyways.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 26 2011 15:02 GMT
#128
Great write-up but I'd prefer smaller ones more regularly.
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
March 26 2011 15:49 GMT
#129
Awesome write up can't believe the queen usage really has evolved going to have to catch some bw games and cut back on the sc2.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
March 26 2011 15:53 GMT
#130
On March 27 2011 00:49 Weaponx3 wrote:
Awesome write up can't believe the queen usage really has evolved going to have to catch some bw games and cut back on the sc2.


they're only used against mech in ZvT and hive tech ZvZ at the moment though. I think they,re perfectly viable against bio TvZ but progamers are not using them sadly
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
March 26 2011 15:59 GMT
#131
really awesome article, thanks for writing it
looking forward to the next one
ace hwaiting!!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 26 2011 16:07 GMT
#132
On March 27 2011 00:53 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 00:49 Weaponx3 wrote:
Awesome write up can't believe the queen usage really has evolved going to have to catch some bw games and cut back on the sc2.


they're only used against mech in ZvT and hive tech ZvZ at the moment though. I think they,re perfectly viable against bio TvZ but progamers are not using them sadly


Don't forget about sniping the HTs. I doubt zero has stopped using them in ZvP for good.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
March 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#133
So much reading! Good write-up! Thanks!

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
March 26 2011 16:10 GMT
#134
Spent time reading the whole thing. There's a couple of those vod's I missed! Thanks for the read.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
March 26 2011 16:30 GMT
#135
fantastic write-up!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 26 2011 16:44 GMT
#136
On March 27 2011 01:07 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 00:53 swanized wrote:
On March 27 2011 00:49 Weaponx3 wrote:
Awesome write up can't believe the queen usage really has evolved going to have to catch some bw games and cut back on the sc2.


they're only used against mech in ZvT and hive tech ZvZ at the moment though. I think they,re perfectly viable against bio TvZ but progamers are not using them sadly


Don't forget about sniping the HTs. I doubt zero has stopped using them in ZvP for good.

Queens will be an unlikely sight in ZvP for a while to come. Protoss has begun favoring some more Corsair-based play lately, so Queens have become a far more dangerous gamble than they were in the past.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
March 26 2011 16:47 GMT
#137
so much work went into writing this masterpiece... great write up!
Vazze
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden279 Posts
March 26 2011 16:52 GMT
#138
Thanks to the writers for making this amazing write-up. Shall take a look at all the highlighted matches.
Jung Myung Hoon and Doh Jae Wook fan!
longdivision
Profile Joined December 2010
United States170 Posts
March 26 2011 17:22 GMT
#139
Sick write-up. I've never watched a proleague final live but I'll definitely be following it this time around.

Question though: Will there be another playoff at the end of round 6, and how does the winner's league final count towards that?
pten4ikl
Profile Joined March 2011
Argentina3 Posts
March 26 2011 17:29 GMT
#140
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