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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-14 20:18:29
January 14 2003 18:06 GMT
#1
Some seriously depressing results yesterday in week #1 of the Ongamenet Duel Tournament (NOTE: dunno what the Duel Tournament is about? Check out my article on the format of Ongamenet tournaments in our Articles section.) :


GROUP A

1) Nal_rA (P) ("Kang Min") < Mumyung (Z) ("Sung Hak-seung") - Gaema Gowown
2) ChRh (T) ("Choi In-gyun") < HOT_Forever (Z) ("Kang Do-gyung") - Gaema Gowon
3) Mumyung (Z) > HOT_Forever - Neo Forbidden Zone
4) Nal_rA (P) > ChRh (T) - Avant Garde II
5) Nal_rA (P) < HOT_Forever (Z) - Neo Bifrost


So, Mumyung (Z) and HOT_Forever (Z) advance into the next Starleague. Nal_rA and ChRh will have to start with the Challenge League all over again. OMG.

Nal_rA just wasn't his usual self today and it cost him. He fucked up with his scouting and after that he just wasn't able to play his game. His last match v HOT on Neo Bifrost lasted just over 4 mins - making it painfully obvious Kang hadn't planned on playing the final match in the losers bracket. There's just no way any protoss player is going to beat HOT on Neo Bifrost.

ChRh was just overwhelmed by two better players today. He may have had a chance v his nemesis HOT in the first match, but he made a series of catastrophic mistakes in the beginning (didn't see HOT's lings going around Kang's min natural, let the lings enter Choi's main, horrible control with rines got them all killed with like only one or two losses for the lings, pressed the wrong key and didn't realize his 2 raxes weren't pumping out more rines...omg) and that was all HOT needed. Choi never had a chance v Nal_rA in their match on Avant Garde II. Just all Nal_rA from start to finish. What a nightmare for the GO (pronounced as initials, "G.O.") team - both Nal_rA and ChRh get knocked off.

I'm gonna get a little critical now. I dunno about HOT, but I'm getting tired of seeing Mumyung in Starleague. The OGN casters jokingly dubbed him "Mr. Duel Tournament," on the one hand because of his success in the Duel Tournaments so far (has he ever lost any of his matches in any Duel Tournament?). The flip side tho is Sung STINKS in the Starleague. It's become obvious he just can't hang with the group that plays there. He may win a game or two every now and then, but I can almost guarantee you he won't make the final 8 next Starleague season, not unless he gets real flukey. He's just like Sinji_NT (Z) and Crystal[Inca] (Z), both respectable players, but seriously lacking in any real depth, but somehow always just managing to bump off much better players in the prelims, then proceeding to stink up the main event later on with woefully inept and tranquilizingly boring play. What a joke.

No, I'm not complaining because Mumyung happens to own in Duel Tournament. My beef is that he sucks so badly in Starleague! He's shown one brilliant moment (v ChRh in the SKY 2002) and that's it. The guy needs to move over and stop taking up valuable space. So, do I want him just cut from the next Starleague roster? No, of course not. Rules are rules and he won his place fair and square. But I won't be cheering for him until he shows he's capable of beating other players on a consistent basis in Starleague. Until he does, I'm gonna pray Mumyung disappears for a while from the Starleague scene. I'll be more than happy to welcome him back with open arms once his skills have improved.


NEXT WEEK: Xellos[yG] (T), 2L.Eji (P), Oddysay (T), TheWind (Z)
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Liquid`Daaman[1]
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden51 Posts
January 14 2003 18:20 GMT
#2
Mumyung!
a person repeatedly beating everything in his way in the "duel tournament" is not someone I would say has a crucial need to improve in skill.

i don't know much about his starleague situation, but getting a bad start, it's easy to lose over and over again until you just let yourself play. i think it's more things than his skill he needs to get sort out. He might need some belief in himself.

I hope he does well-.- mostly cause what you wrote about him!_!
Comfortably Numb
Liquid`Daaman[1]
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden51 Posts
January 14 2003 18:22 GMT
#3
xellos (P) ?
Comfortably Numb
no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
January 14 2003 18:44 GMT
#4
As above...wtf?
[r]h_probe
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States188 Posts
January 14 2003 19:37 GMT
#5
I sure hope xellos as a p was a typo...
adObO_GoD
Profile Joined October 2002
Philippines121 Posts
January 14 2003 19:47 GMT
#6
what happened to OGN starleague, rea?? and where are the vods?
heh!
RowdyBob
Profile Joined October 2002
Australia206 Posts
January 14 2003 20:15 GMT
#7
Maybe Nal_Ra just isnt as good as hes made out to be;)
:7
...
adObO_GoD
Profile Joined October 2002
Philippines121 Posts
January 14 2003 20:18 GMT
#8
heh!
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 14 2003 20:24 GMT
#9
By "skill" I meant his ability to win in Starleague. I couldn't care less if he was technically perfect.

I hope Mumyung proves me wrong, too.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Snakeyez
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada456 Posts
January 14 2003 21:02 GMT
#10
doh at least we got kingdom hopefully, reach too
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
January 14 2003 22:25 GMT
#11
i dont see whats so shocking about the results realy.Nal_Ra owned T like always and lost to Z like most of the time. To get to a starleauge he needs to play onlys Ts and Ps.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
January 14 2003 23:15 GMT
#12
Hm. Too bad. I really think if Starleague keeps only being T and Z players it stands as possibly becoming VERY stagnated and losing popularity. Hopefully there will be at least 3 Protoss players in this next league. Mensrea, do you know how many P players made it to the duel league?
Broom
Knight007
Profile Joined September 2002
Philippines109 Posts
January 14 2003 23:25 GMT
#13
go mumyung!
go tux!
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 14 2003 23:46 GMT
#14
On January 15 2003 08:15 red.venom wrote:
Hm. Too bad. I really think if Starleague keeps only being T and Z players it stands as possibly becoming VERY stagnated and losing popularity. Hopefully there will be at least 3 Protoss players in this next league. Mensrea, do you know how many P players made it to the duel league?


I believe 6 or 7 (if you include Nal_rA). We'll see what happens, but a similar thing happened last year where, at one point, over HALF the participants who got into Challenge League ended being Protoss. In the end, tho only Reach and Garimto wound up playing in Starleague.

Nal_rA losing to HOT on Neo Bifrost wasn't a surprise. In fact, it was practically guaranteed. Nal_rA losing to Mumyung, on the other hand WAS a shock - very few expected it to happen. Nal_rA is like 7-5 now in OGN play PvZ (including his loss v Mumyung yesterday). He doesn't exactly dominate v Z, but he's certainly won his share of tough matches. Losing to Mumyung was a mistake.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Zob
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany226 Posts
January 15 2003 00:04 GMT
#15
Sorry to all Nal_RA Fans out-there (including me) but this guy just isn't able to play top if he is under pressure. If this continues he will never have his brakethrough.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-15 02:08:48
January 15 2003 00:37 GMT
#16
On January 15 2003 08:15 red.venom wrote:
Mensrea, do you know how many P players made it to the duel league?


Im not mensrea but:

Reach won the SKY .. but is sucking lately, eliminated from both the OGN and the KPGA. He has a shot at the duel tourney.

Kingdom is seeded in the next OGN

Nal_Ra lost to kingdom in the Challenge league finals, and as you just read failed another chance at the starleague.

Other toss in duel tournament is:
SoA.Eji
ForU (aka [DaK]Ddong )
IntoTheRainbow
[Kor]Zeus

5 toss players left to fight for glory and money. My guess? ForU advances. Reach and Rainbow have a shot. Eju and Zeus will die trying.
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Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
January 15 2003 01:34 GMT
#17
"The guy needs to move over and stop taking up valuable space."



Hahah, nice post.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
January 15 2003 02:13 GMT
#18
protoss
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
January 15 2003 02:44 GMT
#19
Pfff, both my fave players dropped out.

Thx Rea for expressing your (my) feelings about Mumyung. I start to dislike him.

-Mynock
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
January 15 2003 03:15 GMT
#20
I think Zeus will definately be in Starleague.
My two cents
Pure fan
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