To answer your question, there are a couple examples from American college sports that I know. There may be others.

A number of college basketball teams have had their wins vacated due to their participation in point-shaving scandals (a form of match-fixing in which the winning team intentionally reduces the margin of victory or the losing team intentionally increases the margin of defeat---this is harder to catch than match-fixing the win/loss).

Penn State's American football coach Joe Paterno's coaching wins were vacated due to his administration's lack of institutional oversight, which allowed sexual molestation of children to occur on team facilities.

itsjustatank

Hong Kong9176 Posts

December 09 2013 23:53 GMT

#382

There's also USC's entire 2004-2005 set of wins and championship vacated and ban from bowl games for two years over Reggie Bush

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/13506096

vesicular

United States1310 Posts

December 10 2013 00:08 GMT

#383

On December 10 2013 06:03 nimdil wrote:

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Can you give example of when the title was vacated not because of doping scandal or s.t. similar?

The MN Gopher Basketball team was stripped of all awards, titles, statistics, and records (including a Final 4 appearance) for the years 1993-1999 for academic fraud.

Gruntt

United States175 Posts

December 10 2013 00:12 GMT

#384

All zerg and terrans

Protoss is only for the true heroes

Nouar

France3270 Posts

December 10 2013 05:51 GMT

#385

On December 10 2013 06:03 nimdil wrote:

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Can you give example of when the title was vacated not because of doping scandal or s.t. similar?

Simple. Armstrong has been convicted of "doping", generally speaking, but we dont know exactly when or where, we just assume it was everytime. Thus, *all* his Tour achievments were erased. Maybe he didnt dope in a few of them? Nevertheless, it's removed. I know it's not a very good example, but you should see the reasoning.

Anyway, it's just about barring results... These are still shown on the page, why do you even argue for such an unsignificant thing. You can see he won, and was striped of his titles, which is reality, you are creating an inexistant problem... The way it is or the way you want is 99% the same... Why is it do hard to fathom?

nimdil

Poland3759 Posts

December 10 2013 15:56 GMT

#386

On December 10 2013 09:08 vesicular wrote:

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The MN Gopher Basketball team was stripped of all awards, titles, statistics, and records (including a Final 4 appearance) for the years 1993-1999 for academic fraud.

And if you look up here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Golden_Gophers_men's_basketball#Results_by_season
Their way of showing "vacant" title is consistent with my suggestion. Also 1997 figures in "Final Form" section of infobox with asterisk, while current LP solution for sAviOrs championships is to simply not show them at all.

@itsjustatank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_National_Championship
Again, the title is there, it's not "striked".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USC_Trojans_football#National_titles
And here again - the title is there with adnotation. No rec color, no striking line.

Honestly I don't follow US sports, especially on academic level, so it's a bit painful to check how Wikipedia handled it but at least in this case, the solution indicate that striking the title and not showing his championships in infobox is perhaps a bit misleading. If wikipedia is any indication, what I proposed on my personal page is the way to go - thank you for arguments. Perhaps the information in the last column should be changed to "vacated" and asterisk/adnotation added next to sAviOr's 4 and Luxury's 1 championships and that's it.

@Nouar
Yes - it's in no way very important matter, but it's bothering me. Also initially I wasn't sure that OGN/MBC/KeSPA actually vacated title and this discussion brought some more information.

itsjustatank

Hong Kong9176 Posts

December 10 2013 16:43 GMT

#387

The way this thread is developing, you really seem to be the only one who has a serious issue with a strikethrough. You have already terminally conceded the basis behind why that strikethrough exists on Liquipedia. You can continue linking to other random things, but the strikethrough is already a consensus compromise solution to the issue of matchfixers on the wiki and your advocacy is very unilateral at this point.

Once, I remember, we came upon a man-of-war anchored off the coast. There wasn't even a shed there, and she was shelling the bush. It appears the French had one of their wars going on thereabouts. Her ensign dropped limp like a rag; the muzzles of the long six-inch guns stuck out all over the low hull; the greasy, slimy swell swung her up lazily and let her down, swaying her thin masts. In the empty immensity of earth, sky, and water, there she was, incomprehensible, firing into a continent.

It's also hilarious to see you running to how Wikipedia presents things when you have rejected Wikipedia in this very thread.

On December 09 2013 06:51 nimdil wrote:
@epoxide

I don't see why Liquipedia should follow. Liquipedia provides information and sAviOr (and Luxury) still is four time champion. I don't see why we need to strike it through - that's messy at best; suggests that somehow he's results are undone or whatever.

I think we are done here.

2Pacalypse-

Croatia9538 Posts

December 10 2013 17:14 GMT

#388

If you have a problem with Liquipedia conventions, open a thread in Liquipedia Contributors forum or in Website Feedback. This thread is being run into the ground...

Closed.