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Vedic
Profile Joined March 2008
United States582 Posts
May 31 2010 05:22 GMT
#61
It's cute how KeSPA think that they still have a say in this.
I tried to commit seppuku, but I accidentally committed bukkake.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
May 31 2010 05:22 GMT
#62
The most important part about eSports is the rights of the fan

that's said, what more to add ? :d

Btw, I wonder if Blizzard is willing to re-negociate now they already signed with GOM :/
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
May 31 2010 05:30 GMT
#63
If Blizzard cared about e-sports they would have LAN in sc2 and cross-region play, period. Upon really learning their attitude about these two features in the past couple weeks, my mind swung very strongly from thinking something absolutely needed to be done about Kespa to basically thinking anything Blizzard takes control of will be an abomination.

It's not even caring about fans, it's sort of naive to look at it in that way (how many pro sports owners really, truly care about fans?), but Blizzard with its blatant disregard for these necessary features seems clearly not interested in even having a competitive sc2 scene for the purpose of profiting off of it even, beyond the hype generated by early tournaments (like these in the beta) which probably do the most to boost sales. Kespa though, does clearly have a motivation to care about the competitive product, and it too is reflected in their actions, building the whole structure they have.

I mean maybe GOM will come to the rescue and perform splendidly and save everything, but how likely is that? If only Blizzard would just back down on the stupid LAN and cross region-ing in SC2, I really wouldn't feel so ill and think the whole scene might be on the brink of collapse.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Veil
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)42 Posts
May 31 2010 05:53 GMT
#64
If Blizzard is really intent on taking this issue all the way, I hope that they follow through with all the expectations of esport fans. They are going to hit rock bottom if they let esports die, while waving around their iron fist.
Not enough minerals T_T
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 31 2010 06:05 GMT
#65
On May 31 2010 14:22 Vedic wrote:
It's cute how KeSPA think that they still have a say in this.

KeSPA doesnt, but the players and the fans do.

The copy of SC sold in USA and SK is almost identical, but why don't you see SC game broadcasts in ESPN? Do think think ESPN doesnt have the money?

It came down to enigmatic players like Boxer and his legion of fans. Clearly, Blizzard doesn't understand their business model. There is nothing preventing the players or fans from supporting another game. As long as there is user demand, MBC could broadcast pr0n starring Flash for all we know.
...from the land of imba
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
May 31 2010 06:11 GMT
#66
From what I understand, didn't Blizzard say they only got involved in this stuff when Kespa decided to sell the broadcasting rights to Starcraft? Blizzard obviously feeling that Kespa is in no position to sell the rights to something Kespa doesn't really own. If Blizzard is to be believed, they would have largely stayed out of it if not for that incident.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
May 31 2010 06:17 GMT
#67
I think blizzard is underestimating the potential backlash if this doesnt go very particularly.

All kespa has to do if a deal doesnt get worked out is to parade Flash or Jaedong or another popular player and have them say something along the lines of "I am so sorry to my fans, but we will not be able to hold the MSL and the OSL this year because Blizzard wont negotiate. I wish it could be different, and Im sorry that Im letting you all down. We were working so hard to regain your trust; we hope you will continue to support us in our efforts."

Activision may believe that no publicity is bad publicity, but I dont think that's the case. And I dont think it actually matters what happens behind the scenes, all that matters is how the fans perceive things going down. Blizzard wasnt involved for the longest time, I can see korean fans viewing them as the outsiders and that makes them really easy to blame.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
CCGaunt
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States417 Posts
May 31 2010 06:21 GMT
#68
On May 31 2010 12:50 Empyrean wrote:
Will this reach the Korean courts?



A real funny issue is if it made it to Korean courts, and they sided with KESPA.

Can Blizzard actual do anything about that?

Time for international court legislation?
Technically some sort of respect for other countries legislation should be upheld, but this just seems FUBAR.
Take me to Korea
Vedic
Profile Joined March 2008
United States582 Posts
May 31 2010 06:22 GMT
#69
On May 31 2010 15:05 dybydx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 14:22 Vedic wrote:
It's cute how KeSPA think that they still have a say in this.

KeSPA doesnt, but the players and the fans do.

The copy of SC sold in USA and SK is almost identical, but why don't you see SC game broadcasts in ESPN? Do think think ESPN doesnt have the money?


Culture and opportunity. For one, tournaments in the west mostly supported other games - games like Quake and Counter-strike. They all failed horribly, so sponsors are less than motivated to support another failed venture, regardless of the game.
I tried to commit seppuku, but I accidentally committed bukkake.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
May 31 2010 06:23 GMT
#70
Did they acknowledge their sale of proleague rights to IEG as being a less than honest deal?
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
May 31 2010 06:27 GMT
#71
On May 31 2010 13:54 Rekrul wrote:
ultimately this will pave a road to a better future in esports as kespa is run by complete idiots

it will hurt for a while though

but still, its kespas fault for being complete idiots towards blizzard since the beginning of sc esports in korea
Do you fully expect professional BW to disappear in Korea?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 31 2010 06:27 GMT
#72
On May 31 2010 15:23 Manifesto7 wrote:
Did they acknowledge their sale of proleague rights to IEG as being a less than honest deal?

I would hope so, as the sale of those rights never existed until they sold them, and if they did, would have belonged to blizzard.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
May 31 2010 06:30 GMT
#73
On May 31 2010 15:23 Manifesto7 wrote:
Did they acknowledge their sale of proleague rights to IEG as being a less than honest deal?


how ironic, it seems kespa have to negotiate with gom now hahahaha.
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
May 31 2010 06:40 GMT
#74
Alot of the hate on Blizzard is very unwarranted. People need to look passed that and look at Activision Blizzard. There is a reason that Blizzard has not been actively trying to enforce their IP since 2001 in Korea, because up until 2 years ago was when Bobby Kotick came along. It's not just a coincidence. Activision is out for money, the people who work at blizzard and make these games are genuine passionate people, it's ignorant to shit on them.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 31 2010 06:41 GMT
#75
kespa is getting desperate! they already negotiated and got nowhere and now they wanna negotiate again? after the rights have been giving to GOM and the EULA changed?

a little fucking late

Blizzard esports plan is probably just gonna be another goddamn CGS. Fuck sakes theres nowhere to turn
savior did nothing wrong
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
May 31 2010 06:41 GMT
#76
Down with Intellectual Property!
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 31 2010 06:46 GMT
#77
Blizzard and we remember when kespa and pro teams to boycott GOM TV season 3 and Blizzcon. I was really pissed about July can't go to blizzcon because his team stood with kespa. Blizzard definitely is pissed also.

If Kespa really cared about the fan. Why they told pro teams to boycott GOM TV season 3?
flammie
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
61 Posts
May 31 2010 06:48 GMT
#78
So Kespa is basically trying to use the same arguments against Blizzard as OGN/MBC did against Kespa 2 years ago? This is going to end the same way. Kespa held all the cards then (the players), and Blizzard holds all the cards now (SC,SC2).
Terakin
Profile Joined March 2008
Jamaica22 Posts
May 31 2010 06:49 GMT
#79
I respect what KeSPA has done for SC:BW, but I am behind Blizzard.
KeSPA doesn't give a damn about eSports outside S. Korea. Even when GOM attempted to bring SC to foreigners by hiring Tasteless and Daniel Lee, KeSPA made sure to torpedo that plan. Blizz has a vision for SC:BW and all there products to be as big in the rest of the world as it is in Korea. KeSPA has little or no ground to stand on. Yes, through there blood sweat and tears, they built an industry. Too bad they built it all on someone else's property.
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insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
May 31 2010 06:50 GMT
#80
On May 31 2010 14:30 ZapRoffo wrote:
If Blizzard cared about e-sports they would have LAN in sc2 and cross-region play, period.

Totally agree, pretty strange how everybody ignore this.
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