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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
May 31 2010 04:49 GMT
#41
I had the feeling Blizzard was trying to be too smart when I talked to one of the customer support guys, now the feeling is growing stronger.
DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
May 31 2010 04:51 GMT
#42
I really think that when the time comes, Kespa will take them to court, and argue that since Blizzard has kept quiet for years, they cannot come in now and say that they can't play sc1 without their consent. So sc1 will prob be still played, and it will be the battle between sc1 and sc2 scenes. Either way, I don't see Kespa going away.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
May 31 2010 04:51 GMT
#43
Why wouldnt they have a legal claim to royalties?

It's too late for kespa anyways. GOM has the contract, kespa loses. They will have to disband as an association and reform as a league under GOM.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 04:54:26
May 31 2010 04:52 GMT
#44
Are you sure GOM/Blizzard would be happy with broadcasting a lot of Broodwar? Basically I have no problem with GOM as long as they don't kill broodwar broadcasting time or tournaments but i im not really optimistic regarding Blizzards ifluence.
I don't give a damn about Blizzard and GOM. They can do whatever they want with SC2, I just hope they stay the hell away from Korean Brood War.

Yup, i agree.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 31 2010 04:53 GMT
#45
I really dont hope broodwar is killed by this. That would be terrible.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 31 2010 04:54 GMT
#46
ultimately this will pave a road to a better future in esports as kespa is run by complete idiots

it will hurt for a while though

but still, its kespas fault for being complete idiots towards blizzard since the beginning of sc esports in korea
why so 진지해?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 04:55:50
May 31 2010 04:54 GMT
#47
UGH.

As much as I love Blizzard, and as much as I absolutely despise Kespa... I just can't keep thinking that if Kespa goes down in this, progaming is going to take a massive blow it might not be able to recover from.

As much as we all hate Kespa, and know that the "for the fans" line is 100% bullshit, lets face it: they are e-sports. They are so deeply rooted at the corporate level, that if an outsider (ie, Blizzard) were to assume control, I don't think it would exactly be a smooth transition (as I originally did long ago). Thinking about it more, it took Kespa YEARS AND YEARS to get progaming to where it is today in Korea. Yes, we hate them, but you can't deny they did a LOT for the advancement of what we all know and love. Something that, based on their track record, I honestly cannot see Blizzard doing. Does anyone REALLY think Blizzard will spend the time/energy/money and realisitically achieve the same level of corporate 'bonding' and integration that Kespa did? Even with GOM's help (really, GOM would be orchestrating everything anyways), I just don't see it happening.

I think Blizzard is either:

1) Extremely headstrong and not fully aware of what they're getting themselves into if they intend to 'invest' time/effort/money into e-sports,
2) Are really strong/proud/trying to prove a point, or
3) Are just posturing in the hope that a compromise benefits them regardless.

TBH - I rule out both 1 and 2 based on how intelligent and business savvy Blizzard has always shown itself to be. But 'officially signing with GOM' is really suggesting #2. I'm really hoping that when the pieces fall where they do (and I honestly can't see Kespa or Blizzard backing down at this point, I expect this to go the legal route), I really think there will be a Blizzard/Kespa compromise.

I think that's the best we can all hope for, anyways.





EDIT - In response to Rek above, agree 100%. I think he said what I wanted to convey, but in fewer words. Only difference is, I don't know if e-sports will be able to rebound in the interim. Although if Rek is confident (as he knows Korean culture better than most Koreans do it seems), I believe him.
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Kuri
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada88 Posts
May 31 2010 04:56 GMT
#48
The way I see it is everything should remain the same except the new "owners" of Korean BW progaming is now GOM instead Kespa. Can't MSL, OSL, and Proleagues just be shipped to GOM or am I oversimplifying the situation?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 31 2010 04:58 GMT
#49
Never thought I'd say this (up till a couple months ago), but go KeSPA, go.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
May 31 2010 05:00 GMT
#50
On May 31 2010 13:54 Rekrul wrote:
ultimately this will pave a road to a better future in esports as kespa is run by complete idiots

it will hurt for a while though

but still, its kespas fault for being complete idiots towards blizzard since the beginning of sc esports in korea


Really? This from a gaming company that isn't including a whole butt load of features, many of which are kinda needed for pro-gaming, because they don't think it matters? (LAN) This from a gaming company that won't even have clans out at release?

Gimme a break.

We all know Kespa are douchebags, but at least they got the job done. Blizzard won't be getting involved, just like they didn't get involved in sc1, and you're fooling yourself if you think they will.
NotGood-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States134 Posts
May 31 2010 05:00 GMT
#51
Hahahaha. I can already tell what kespa is thinking. "Oh fuck, we need to get Blizzard on the bandwagon again or were screwed".

Still blizzards statements and KeSPA's statements about one another dont match up.
Someone is lying...
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 31 2010 05:02 GMT
#52
imho blizzard is not interested in squeezing the korean bw scene. i personally interpret this move as the placement of a mine right underneath kespa´s ass so blizz is in a stronger position if kespa ever wants to interfere with the way blizz intends to handle and develop the sc2 esports market.

blizz could ruin kespa if they wanted to, but they wont. but by the possibility to do so, blizz basically holds kespa and the old korean esports scene by their balls, so that when blizz wants to do anything esports-related in korea, kespa is in no position to take away market share/money/influence from them.

imho this is a preparational move for setting themselves up to squeeze the max out of a potential sc2 esports scene.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 31 2010 05:04 GMT
#53
On May 31 2010 14:00 Ramsing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 13:54 Rekrul wrote:
ultimately this will pave a road to a better future in esports as kespa is run by complete idiots

it will hurt for a while though

but still, its kespas fault for being complete idiots towards blizzard since the beginning of sc esports in korea


Really? This from a gaming company that isn't including a whole butt load of features, many of which are kinda needed for pro-gaming, because they don't think it matters? (LAN) This from a gaming company that won't even have clans out at release?

Gimme a break.

We all know Kespa are douchebags, but at least they got the job done. Blizzard won't be getting involved, just like they didn't get involved in sc1, and you're fooling yourself if you think they will.


i dunno, i still have faith in blizzard for sc2
why so 진지해?
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
May 31 2010 05:08 GMT
#54
Dunno if its just the translation but from the tone of the article it seems to me that KeSPA's def feeling the pressure from Blizzard's moves and seem to know that Blizz has the ability to shut them down if they want to...otherwise they wouldn't be resorting to "the fans" argument. However, I do hope that Blizz will consider coming to some sort of agreement if KeSPA really is serious about negotiating.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 31 2010 05:08 GMT
#55
On May 31 2010 14:02 Black Gun wrote:
blizz could ruin kespa if they wanted to, but they wont.

No they can't, and they have tried. Their case isn't as strong in korean courts.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 31 2010 05:14 GMT
#56
On May 31 2010 13:56 Kuri wrote:
The way I see it is everything should remain the same except the new "owners" of Korean BW progaming is now GOM instead Kespa. Can't MSL, OSL, and Proleagues just be shipped to GOM or am I oversimplifying the situation?


You're way oversimplifying. Remember, the Kespa board of directors is MADE UP of the OSL/MSL/Proleague and most progaming team's Sponsor companies. Ie, the same people who run OGN and MBCGame and the corresponding leagues are the SAME PEOPLE who run Kespa and all the teams.

You really think they're going to just let Blizzard kill everything they have, then turn around and tell their teams and people running the leagues "Ok, go run along and play/broadcast on GOM now!"

No way in hell.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
May 31 2010 05:15 GMT
#57
how exactly is gom related to kespa? if its owned by cj and cj is part of kespa which one is the higher authority?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
May 31 2010 05:17 GMT
#58
On May 31 2010 13:56 Kuri wrote:
The way I see it is everything should remain the same except the new "owners" of Korean BW progaming is now GOM instead Kespa. Can't MSL, OSL, and Proleagues just be shipped to GOM or am I oversimplifying the situation?

way oversimplifying things.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 31 2010 05:18 GMT
#59
On May 31 2010 14:15 onewingedmoogle wrote:
how exactly is gom related to kespa? if its owned by cj and cj is part of kespa which one is the higher authority?


True - Which is actually the shining light in all of this. Even *IF* everything goes the way Blizzard seems to want it to, I still can't help but feel that the 'controlling interests' will still be in the hands of the same people, not Blizzard. I think Blizzard will masquerade as the ones in control, but everything will really be run locally by GOM and by extension, the old Kespa ruling parties.

That, again, is best case scenario. "Change to something new" but maintain status quo ftw!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 31 2010 05:20 GMT
#60
not the best decision for Blizzard in terms of interest for maintaining BW progaming, but Kespa is kind of getting what they deserve

it's ironic that Kespa killed the GOM Invitational and now GOM has the potential to kill Kespa
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