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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
May 31 2010 04:02 GMT
#21
Blizzard's product is the game. Once it leaves the shelves, it isn't theirs anymore. Yeah, you should add a
*Starcraft is the property of Blizzard Entertainment
on a video, but what right do they have to do this shit?
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
May 31 2010 04:02 GMT
#22
On May 31 2010 12:58 Brett wrote:
LOL

Kespa hiding behind "the fans".


They probably don't give a shit about the fans but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't still be good for the fans if kespa won this fight and got a reasonable agreement with blizzard.

To me it seems that kespa is the "lesser evil" in this case.
GoodWill
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 04:33:07
May 31 2010 04:05 GMT
#23
On May 31 2010 13:00 [Azn]Nada wrote:
God I really don't know which one I dislike more these days... Blizzard for being ridiculously greedy (see the activision blizzard article), or Kespa for their long record of dumb rulings "the pp/ppp and "a" incedences) Does anyone feel at a loss about who to support?

I guess id go with Kespa as they kinda keep ESports alive...


No, Blizzard and Kespa are not arguing over pp and ppp, this has nothing to do with the referees or the rulebooks. This is Blizzard against people who have invested their money and time to grow esports, the corporations, the teams, the broadcasters, the coaches and the players, it has nothing to do with the referees.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
May 31 2010 04:09 GMT
#24
On May 31 2010 12:45 Capook wrote:
Blizzard should say "talk to GOM kthx"



kespa should prolly read the EULA


and "other rights outside of common sense" is pretty lol.

tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
May 31 2010 04:12 GMT
#25
On May 31 2010 13:02 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 12:58 Brett wrote:
LOL

Kespa hiding behind "the fans".


They probably don't give a shit about the fans but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't still be good for the fans if kespa won this fight and got a reasonable agreement with blizzard.

To me it seems that kespa is the "lesser evil" in this case.


Yeah, when it comes to this I believe that KeSPA is the lesser of 2 evils here.

Blizzard is demolishing eSports. Although KeSPA isn't the best organization ever and has so unnecessary, I truly believe that they're trying to build eSports much more than KeSPA. Although we're not very satisfied with what has happened in the past few years ( Dumb disqualifications, pp incident, etc ) I do think that they care somewhat for the fans.

Blizzard hasn't actually done anything for Brood War since 2004.

Blizzard has already taken away LAN (which is absolutely essential for eSports).
Just think, in 10 years when bnet 3.0 comes out do you think that Blizzard will care enough to improve bnet 2.0 for the remaining SC2 fans?
They've never really improved the original Battle. Net. just look at how hacker infested it is. Imagine if progamers didn't have lan for SC1 and were forced to play on Bnet.

The Blizzard 12 years ago that created StarCraft is not in existence anymore. The new Blizzard could care less about what happens as long as their wallets and shareholders are happy.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
May 31 2010 04:14 GMT
#26
Wow, Blizzard is really just after the money while i think kespa is really for the fans. i mean did u hear the pierce interview? for kespa u can hear from that one ep. of After Talk about how fans are the root of esports. Please for those that agree with me, please post things like on Blizzard. i've gotten into many arguments over this on forums that have never watched a pro SC match. We need to get the TL community involved in those forums so they can hear us
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 31 2010 04:18 GMT
#27
I don't give a damn about Blizzard and GOM. They can do whatever they want with SC2, I just hope they stay the hell away from Korean Brood War.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 31 2010 04:19 GMT
#28
On May 31 2010 13:02 RoieTRS wrote:
Blizzard's product is the game. Once it leaves the shelves, it isn't theirs anymore. Yeah, you should add a
*Starcraft is the property of Blizzard Entertainment
on a video, but what right do they have to do this shit?

They license the software, which allows them greater control of what can and cannot be done with their software. Most all computer programs make use of this licensing format, since piracy is so common on computer software. Especially with all games being forced to play on bnet, blizz has complete control over how their property (bnet in this case) is used.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
May 31 2010 04:22 GMT
#29
On May 31 2010 13:18 J1.au wrote:
I don't give a damn about Blizzard and GOM. They can do whatever they want with SC2, I just hope they stay the hell away from Korean Brood War.


They're touching Korean Brood War.

As they say that KeSPA does not have broadcasting rights to Brood War and signed them to GOM.
Thus killing eSports
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 31 2010 04:22 GMT
#30
I love the attitude of KESPA, as if they are perplexed as to why Blizzard is doing all of this (I know they aren't). Both of these bodies want money, KESPA has been greedy in the past, and Blizzard is now being greedy. KESPA is getting the short end of the stick at this point in time, but considering that I doubt either of these companies give a shit about the fans, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for KESPA.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
May 31 2010 04:24 GMT
#31
On May 31 2010 13:18 J1.au wrote:
I don't give a damn about Blizzard and GOM. They can do whatever they want with SC2, I just hope they stay the hell away from Korean Brood War.


yeah, i agree.

even if there's no sc2 for esports, as long as there is korean brood war, i'm fine. i hope the mapmakers can think of new ways to keep the scene interesting.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
May 31 2010 04:32 GMT
#32
On May 31 2010 13:24 29 fps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 13:18 J1.au wrote:
I don't give a damn about Blizzard and GOM. They can do whatever they want with SC2, I just hope they stay the hell away from Korean Brood War.


yeah, i agree.

even if there's no sc2 for esports, as long as there is korean brood war, i'm fine. i hope the mapmakers can think of new ways to keep the scene interesting.


Even if mapmakers can't keep the BW scene interesting...

As long as korean kids keep playing brood war we'll have a next and next generation of brood war players to keep things interesting.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
May 31 2010 04:34 GMT
#33
as said doubt blizz will still negotiate, i just wonder how kespa will respond, will they keep running leagues and prepare for a lawsuit or will they really quit without permission of blizz/gom...
its me
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 31 2010 04:35 GMT
#34
someone should make a post that thoroughly summarizes the strengths and weaknesses of both sides so we can avoid the similar cycle of reasoning/arguing that goes on in EVERY ONE of these threads. do you all understand that each thread is filled with the same arguments; the only thing different are the usernames posting them.
manner
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
May 31 2010 04:40 GMT
#35
Since Blizzard is out for total control of Esports, I have started wondering if they would do the unthinkable... Try to close down the Iccup Brood War server.
I'm a Crab made of men.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 31 2010 04:42 GMT
#36
What did you mean by Blizzard being the beneficiary?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 31 2010 04:43 GMT
#37
no matter who will win in the end - im very sure the fans and players will be the ones to suffer.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 04:45:21
May 31 2010 04:44 GMT
#38
On May 31 2010 12:57 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 12:53 Ftrunkz wrote:
KeSPA: The most important part about eSports is the rights of the fans


Am i the only one that finds this really ironic?


It's the only reason I included it!


and you think Blizzard cares about the Fans? the only thing they care about is making success off a game they made and they left it alone. years later they come back to take the money and make SC2 and monopolize E-sports. theres no excuse taking so long just to make SC2 expect noticing sc1 is going strong in korea
pew pew
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
May 31 2010 04:46 GMT
#39
All I hope is that GOM is a better replacement than KeSPA. Which wouldn't be very hard.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
May 31 2010 04:46 GMT
#40
Although Kespa has made some really crummy decisions, they are the only organization to effectively create a "pro-scene" and develop Starcraft into an e-sport. Between Blizzard, which doesn't seem to give a shit about the pro-scene, and Kespa, which actually has a vested interest in the scene, it's not hard to choose which one I'd side with.
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