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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 14 2009 17:07 GMT
#181
Allow me to rage with you guys.

GOM PLZ.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
September 14 2009 17:11 GMT
#182
OMG KESPA WTF BM
I put the fu in fun
TheRecliner
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden103 Posts
September 14 2009 17:16 GMT
#183
On September 15 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:
Does anyone know if the lack of KeSPA support somehow made GOM less attractive to teams (in obvious ways, like less prize money or something)?

What I claim now may be complete bs, but afaik this is how it went last season:

GOM was not sanctioned by Kespa.

The SKT1 owner is a big shot in KESPA. They did not take part in the tournament.

The MBC and OGN teams did not take part last season. The tournament was not an official KESPA tournament, and as such, they would only have supported a "rogue" tournament run by a rival television channel.

This season leading to the tournament being cancelled:

So last season you have 3 teams sitting out, which imo points to a snowballing effect regarding teams dropping out this current season. No doubt the GOM tournament was discussed by KESPA during the offseason, and I'd guess they did lobby work to have the other teams sit out as well.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 14 2009 17:17 GMT
#184
On September 15 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:
Does anyone know if the lack of KeSPA support somehow made GOM less attractive to teams (in obvious ways, like less prize money or something)? If there's no obvious association between lack of KeSPA sanction and a league's desirability for teams involved, we can assume with greater certainty that KeSPA in some way bullied teams out of GOM.


I would love to get some more insight on this too, maybe Dan will do a MUMBOJUMBO on it or something.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
September 14 2009 17:19 GMT
#185
thanks kespa. gom was never any good anyways.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 17:28:21
September 14 2009 17:25 GMT
#186
ASdlasdl
What's going to happen to tasteless?! (and danielman)

I suppose if people end up enjoying watching foreigners play enough, he could be fine
Also I suppose with sc2 on the horizon this is the least of his worries. Still, wtf @ killing the only league with consistently good english commentary.
i once had sex with a dog,twice -z7-TranCe
Mullet_Power
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada64 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 17:40:16
September 14 2009 17:39 GMT
#187
I don't see how this move benefits Kespa at all. They may take their ball and go home, but if this annoys Blizzard enough, they can take the court and go home.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
September 14 2009 17:52 GMT
#188
On September 15 2009 02:39 Mullet_Power wrote:
I don't see how this move benefits Kespa at all. They may take their ball and go home, but if this annoys Blizzard enough, they can take the court and go home.

They control the only leagues in Korea. How does that not benefit them?
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Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
September 14 2009 17:59 GMT
#189
Blizzards game they should decide everything that happens with it. Simply they didn't have a all encompassing ToC's that looked out for broadcasting games is all.

Kespa is hopefully in its death throws before SC2. When SC2 comes out we can hope a more international Starcraft Community that isn't just centered around S.Korea comes about which is 10x larger then the current community outside of S.Korea.

Its in Blizzards interest to make things fair for everyone and more accessible and stuff. I mean we have to rely on recorded streams and stuff just to see the pro-games atm. Blizzard wants to change this and i'm sure it will be for the best as they've got the muscle to make SC2 popular globablly on a scale never seen before.

So, feel the rage against the evil that is Kespa and wait for SC2 for things to settle. I suspect Kespa & Blizzard will come to an arrangement simply because Kespa is the dominant force in S.Korea atm.
Arangarx
Profile Joined June 2009
United States2 Posts
September 14 2009 18:03 GMT
#190
I get the feeling that this is more Kespa trying to get back at Blizzard than anything else and poor Gom got caught in the middle. I am very disappointed though. GomTV is what really got me interested in Pro Gaming.
If at first you dont succeed, die, die, again.
justdweezil
Profile Joined July 2009
United States186 Posts
September 14 2009 18:07 GMT
#191
GOMtv just makes StarCraft more accessible to foreigners, who in turn try their hardest to watch the rest of the KESPA sanctioned events. What the hell are they thinking? It's not like GOMtv and the rest are substitutable goods -- most people who watch one probably want to watch the other, too.

Stupid, stupid. Who knows what is going to happen with SC2... they may delay the growth of Korean eSports and ruin SC.
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
September 14 2009 18:09 GMT
#192
On September 15 2009 01:49 chas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 17:14 SnowFantasy wrote:
Hmmm.

Comparing these two:
"as of now I can safely say there won't be any more gomtv leagues"
"as of now I can safely say there won't be any more gomtv leagues with progamers in it."

That is big I think. They might just be moving in a different direction.


Please tell me how much you enjoy foreigner/amateur games after getting used to the level Korean progamers play on. For me, I can barely watch it, which means a season 4 without progamers won't be very exciting.


There are plenty of great non koreans if you ask me, if they all played more regularly. If they got more attention/money, (and thus took less breaks from starcraft) I could be more than happy with the foreigner scene.

I just hope GOMtv and tasteless get something going that we can support until SC2 is out.
Afasia
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland70 Posts
September 14 2009 18:13 GMT
#193
...
this is why we cant have nice things. What will Tasteless do now?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be.
Logikz
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States65 Posts
September 14 2009 18:15 GMT
#194
this makes me a sad pandabearguy
gl hf GG
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 14 2009 18:15 GMT
#195
On September 15 2009 02:52 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2009 02:39 Mullet_Power wrote:
I don't see how this move benefits Kespa at all. They may take their ball and go home, but if this annoys Blizzard enough, they can take the court and go home.

They control the only leagues in Korea. How does that not benefit them?


Mike Morhaime might decide he has enough profits with WoW that he's willing to lose some Starcraft licensing profits to teach somebody a lesson.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
September 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#196
KeSPA now has a monopoly on SC1, but GOM will likely have a monopoly on SC2.
Arangarx
Profile Joined June 2009
United States2 Posts
September 14 2009 18:38 GMT
#197
On September 15 2009 03:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
KeSPA now has a monopoly on SC1, but GOM will likely have a monopoly on SC2.


Hopefully nobody will have a "monopoly" per say, but if someone has to have it, I hope they don't do with it what Kespa has.
If at first you dont succeed, die, die, again.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 14 2009 18:38 GMT
#198
Sad to see the even that introduced me to competitive SC in HQ video won't exist. Here's hoping the morons will be at Blizzard's mercy next year...
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
September 14 2009 18:40 GMT
#199
Fucking dogs! They really fuck up so much about this game we all love. I'm not even sure how many rageworthy fuck-for-brains moments we've had this year.
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
September 14 2009 18:43 GMT
#200
im fucking freaky furious. gom is the only league where i would watch every single game..
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