On July 30 2009 07:20 Falcynn wrote:
Also if NKVD follows the advice here and does NOT contact anybody. They can assume that anyone who contacts them is a rebel.

But how can they prove it? That's the problem.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 00:29 GMT

#321

26 hours? Are the days seriously going to be 48 hours? :/

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 00:45 GMT

#324

meh. Either way it doesn't matter, I've already got my eye on 2 people. Just a bit longer till I can start the rapefest.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 01:01 GMT

#327

On July 30 2009 09:53 coltrane wrote:
Let me do some maths again///

We are 54, how many veterans we have? i would say around 5. If we have 5 NKVD that make 10 of 54 marked as veteran.

thats like 3 times they dt a townie, 2 times they dt a rebbel or a dt. That clearly lower the KP in about the same rate than if all NKVD put as vet but it doesnt keep the mafia to find each other. By the other hand the NKVD will be safe for a while, until 2 mafia join up, and then if any one of them made a vet RC before they will join and kill him. That will happen in about 3-4 days, the same rate than if they claim to be rebels. But this could lower the kp more... unless if they know NKVD are showing to be veterans they will hit them 2 night in a row, and kill them anyway in 3-4 days without losing KP. If they show to be veteran we would show about 54 HP from town when it is actually 49 counting veteran as 2. Is way more convenient to lower directly the KP than make them believe we have more HP than we actually have.

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Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 01:02 GMT

#328

On July 30 2009 09:59 Zato-1 wrote:

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No one's arguing against that, the discussion is whether having NKVDs posing as rebels would have a net effect of lowering their KP or if that would simply create one huge political mess in the Town, making us turn on ourselves due to false accusations.

On a tangentially related note: What's KP stand for? Killing Power of the mafia?

yea KP. And you've kinda summed it up: no point in trying to lower Rebel KP if it would turn the place chaotic.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 01:29 GMT

#330

what other roles are going to find mafia? Only NKVD Agents can. Why would you want chaos period? :/

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 01:49 GMT

#332

The reason I'd never go with a landmine plan is because if the Mafia are any bit decent at persuasion and have solid timing there is no way it will work. What if the mafia wait until night time to contact each other? Plan is done.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 02:18 GMT

#336

On July 30 2009 11:08 person935 wrote:
Why would the plan be done if the mafia wait until nighttime to contact?
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Because at night Rebels have to kill. If the Rebels approach each other and say prove it by killing X there isn't enough time to bullshit.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 02:30 GMT

#338

telling what group? ^_^

How can the NKVD tell anyone they found a mafia when they can't trust anyone else?

The problem with killing either of them is that both of them really could be NKVD Agents posing as mafia or they can both simply claim it. I'd have no problem killing them both if it was an either/or situation but the fact that they can both be innocent is a major bump in the road.

ETA: However, if the NKVD Agents could get a group of confirmed Townies under their wing to cover their ass by Day 3, then they can go undercover. That way once the NKVD agent steps out to the public we'd have a group of confirmed townies vouching for him and each other vs 1 mafia. That is a much better plan of action rather than having 1 NKVD Agent trying to go into the Mafia network and dying.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 17:53 GMT

#368

On July 31 2009 02:18 Last Romantic wrote:
Has there been any agreed-upon course of action for Armymen who receive Rebel PMs?

Well since no NKVD Agent should be disguised as a Rebel you shouldn't be getting any PM.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 18:18 GMT

#372

On July 31 2009 03:08 coltrane wrote:

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WHen did we decided that??

half of the town dont think as you.

Well since I'm better at this game than 99% of the people playing and I have never ever been wrong I think most people should follow my advice.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 18:35 GMT

#376

On July 31 2009 03:30 Zato-1 wrote:

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You better get that first lynching right when/if you get elected Field Marshal then :p

the first lynch isn't guaranteed, not enough info to go around.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 18:36 GMT

#377

On July 31 2009 03:34 StorrZerg wrote:
ace if your mafia then we all dead woot woot go L

If I were Mafia would I repeatedly be making a case to save the NKVD Agents from certain doom

Like I said, if I were Mafia I'd really, really want the NKVD Agents to disguise themselves as Rebels since it makes my job much easier.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 18:39 GMT

#378

On July 31 2009 03:31 coltrane wrote:

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I want to ride your balls

interesting

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 18:57 GMT

#381

seriously he reminds of me of all the other idiots that challenge my logic in past Mafia games then turn out to feel stupid at the end when it shows that I'm right.

Check to see if coltrane is Vivi57's smurf

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 19:05 GMT

#386

I'd agree with the Vet idea. Whatever keeps them alive much longer is good imo.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 30 2009 19:05 GMT

#387

On July 31 2009 04:00 Fishball wrote:
When does voting end?
Feels like 2 days already.

Would actually be interesting to see the ratio of Townie/Mafia of those of gets shot.
I'm guessing most would be conscripts