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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 21 2009 12:22 GMT
#1461
still wondering who leaked me
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 21 2009 12:23 GMT
#1462
now that im more familiar with the game, my next go around i should be more helpful
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 21 2009 12:37 GMT
#1463
Malongo how do you make such good posts and analysis but always have weird decisions in game?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 21 2009 12:51 GMT
#1464
lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 21 2009 12:59 GMT
#1465
On July 21 2009 21:37 Ace wrote:
Malongo how do you make such good posts and analysis but always have weird decisions in game?

Cause ima crazy townie.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 21 2009 13:12 GMT
#1466
so lucas was annoying. discuss.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 21 2009 13:13 GMT
#1467
Day 1 was pretty unorganized. We were getting the forum set up (you can read the forum here at allredhere.proboards.com) and I was having technical difficulties finding us a good, free host with security options so that we wouldn't get infiltrated. We didn't run anyone for office, since our godfather was inexperienced and would look really weird running for office (and wouldn't get elected anyway.) We also couldn't run anyone non-GF and cover him later, because DTs had a role check before we could cover.

We spread our votes out fairly well between L and BC.

Pyrr started getting in deep with BC, which gave us a good start in getting info on town. We were able to see who the Emperor suspected and were able to influence his thoughts on who to target, leading to multiple mistargets and, eventually, his death.

From the beginning, I wanted to keep Chezinu and Pyrr totally incognito until the end of the game. I don't know if they shared this view or were even aware of it. It was my opinion that with the cover ability (covering Pyrr every night), we could keep those two completely hidden until the end of the game unless Plexa REALLY clueraped us.

The MBH plan was good. You guys should have voted rain, all game. We were able to pick off high-value targets all game (aka the good townies) because you didn't vote rain at the beginning and stay at it.

Night 1 was the infamous "GOSU" night, where our hits spelled a secret message. BC foolishly published the PM from Plexa telling him about the message, making him look even more suspicious. I thought the GOSU thing was an incredibly stupid idea until I realized that the list wasn't that bad. I wanted to switch out Fishball for Bockit but Chez convinced me that it wouldn't be a huge loss to keep Bockit alive. Obviously, he was right, as Bockit single-handedly led to us being able to win.

We were crushed by the day 2 clues. We thought that if the clues were all like that, then town had the game won 100%. (Plexa would soon err on the side of incomprehensibility in his clue writing) My clue on this first night (a tall lanky man who knew exactly what was going on) led me to stop posting lest someone read my sig and immediately get the town to lynch me.

There was ZERO clue analysis on YDG in Day 2 voting, and after L casted a LOT of doubt on BC and his accusations, everyone flocked to TruthBringer. Our two incognitos voted for Truthbringer in order to build confidence in the late game, and we griped and grumbled because losing TB seemed to be the only way out of the situation (if ydg had been lynched and flipped green it would have led to a votelist chock-full of mafia.) That day we saw the rise of L as the head townie and foreshadowing of Foolishness as the town MVP. We knew we had to get rid of L ASAP (both to cast suspicion on BC and to kill the center of town at that point), but I personally felt that Foolishness's abrasive posting style would keep people from taking him seriously for a while.

At around this time, so no fek revealed himself to Pyrr and told him he was mystic and that he had checked him and gotten a green result. We debated whether to keep so no fek alive in order to gain MBH's trust after a possible revive, but eventually decided to kill him immediately.

Night 2 was an enormous triumph for us. We used Scamp because we thought town would use rain non-stop after the revive and also because we thought Scamp was pretty fucked by clues. We decided to use the "two hits no medic save" option because I wasn't convinced by Pyrr's argument that L would be medic protected that night. We used the bomb hits on L (who was indeed medic protected) and Judge (whose priest clue was the most likely to draw a protect, if not the strongest. We felt that arrav's priest match was very strong as well.) We killed the center of town (L), hit a good vet player (Caller), discovered a medic by taking away 1 of his HP (redtooth), killed a DT (so no fek), and killing the priest (vx70GTOJudgexv). Absolutely amazing. Our clue analysis on the priest was spot on, with us almost, but not quite, missing the "unsure what his fate would be" quote ---> unfinished schedule in Judge's profile.

Critically, we almost hit Bockit again due to the word "rage" in his profile, but didn't.

Most of the kills were self-explanitory, but here's why we his redtooth:
ummm for those of you not in IRC, the reason we chose redtooth was because no one really suspects him (pyrr's accusation didn't stick at all) and he gave really good analysis on why either pyrr or BC is probably mafia. I was impressed by his reasoning and I think killing him is prudent at this point.


The next day, even before Bockit posted anything, I wrote this to open up the Day 3 lynch thread:
I want to lynch BC today. For that we need clue analysis. For that we need YOU. Find clues in the day posts. They're there... we just need to look for them.

BC is so vulnerable and it's not even our doing. If we pile onto him he'll be lynched for sure.

Anyone disagree?

Of course, this was hopelessly naive. Lynching BC had almost no advantage, if you thought about it. The only powers the emperor had were to do double lynches! The emperor literally could not hurt town, even if he was mafia, except by withholding double lynches. At least, that's what I thought town would think until Bockit made his brilliant arguments to lynch BC.

I'm not even being sarcastic when I say the arguments were brilliant. I think that if some of us were in Bockit's place, we would have done the same thing. Pyrr said himself, "If I were town, I'd be lynching BC too, he looks so much like mafia." The "town gets an autowin if BC is godfather" argument really clinched it... I was able to vote for BC without making it look like a bandwagon (although it led to my death later on) and we were able to get a double townie lynch, and remove the threat of double lynches from the game.

Chaoser made a couple of really dumb posts at this point, telling everyone that BC was innocent but not voting to save him. He would continue posting really badly until his death.

Pyrr escaped suspicion the next day by effectively saying "oops lol."

I knew I was boned since an assassin was definitely going to target me after my back and forth with Bockit. I knew chaoser was boned because of his dumb posts. I'm amazed, though, that no one found clues on either of us. The ninja references (I really likes the dagger eyes clue, Plexa. kniiife eeeye attaccck) and the xelnaga watchtower clues were clear as day.

We hit redtooth to finish him off, hit JeeJee because he looked blue and because he wasn't fighting with Foolishness as much as we thought he would, hit ydg because he was posting well and because we didn't think he would ever get lynched, and hit inertinept because he looked blue.

At this point Foolishness was solidifying himself as town MVP. His planned hitlist was all mafia. He even named Chezinu! He even named Falcynn as probably blue! Unfortunately he trusted Pyrr, but then again so did everyone else in the game (until they died.) We didn't hit him because we were sure he would draw a medic protect.

The game was up in day 4, with both me and ecomania on the chopping block. I could have done better in my defense, but I think Scara would have hit me no matter what I said.

We then got Faronel lynched, sort of inevitable he and Bockit would die given their role in BC's death.

Pyrr then did some post analysis magic and names Storrzerg as the last angel. We put 2 hits on him, a fact which chaoser stupidly pointed out (sorry chaoser), and killed Lucas since he was actually building an OK town coalition.

Everyone was voting chaoser so we tried to build a huge bandwagon that town would balk at. However mafia was not entirely active at this time so our plan didn't really work out. Also, we didn't have a convincing alternate candidate.

We killed the confirmed townie and iNfuNdiBuLuM. It was a mistake to kill iNfuNdiBuLuM.

We got BWDero lynched (my story is losing steam)

Scara had told Pyrr that Falcynn was mystic (I think.) So we killed him and Malongo, setting up lenwe's lynch.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
July 21 2009 13:44 GMT
#1468
On July 21 2009 22:13 motbob wrote:
Scara had told Pyrr that Falcynn was mystic (I think.) So we killed him and Malongo, setting up lenwe's lynch.
Damn it Pyrr, you scum

I always suspected him, but when Scara told me to trust him, and then he PM'd me saying that scara told him I figured I had no choice =/
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 13:50:56
July 21 2009 13:47 GMT
#1469
On July 21 2009 15:24 Chezinu wrote:
I can't believe Falcynn never checked pyrr..
I was going to right before you guys fucking killed me

I told Pyrr that I was going to check either Malongo or Lenwe hoping that by doing so he'd let me live for another day though =/

Edit: although TBH Pyrr did play well. If it wasn't for him accusing me earlier in the game (the only reason I held a grudge against him) I probably would've trusted him 100% as well.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 21 2009 15:31 GMT
#1470
BAH
when as bc died we were discussing who i should hit, he said either one of motbob or pyrr, i would have hit pyrr instead of bockit if he wasnt the main person behind bc's lynch
pyrr played his role well and i ended up telling him who the medic/mystic waas T_T
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 21 2009 15:45 GMT
#1471
On July 22 2009 00:31 Scaramanga wrote:
BAH
when as bc died we were discussing who i should hit, he said either one of motbob or pyrr, i would have hit pyrr instead of bockit if he wasnt the main person behind bc's lynch
pyrr played his role well and i ended up telling him who the medic/mystic waas T_T


Not to mention I told you to hit motbob as well.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 21 2009 17:38 GMT
#1472
its ok Scar TT we can blame the game on you j/k

so when might another one start up?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 21 2009 17:59 GMT
#1473
i still cant believe you guys killed me as soon as i got in
prepare to get clue raped
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 18:41:09
July 21 2009 18:38 GMT
#1474
Did anyone brought up the first day "G-O-S-U" kill already?
Just started reading the thread again, since it ended

Ah, just caught motbob's post up top.
靈魂交響曲
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 18:42:22
July 21 2009 18:42 GMT
#1475
On July 21 2009 18:10 Ver wrote:
Oh one other thing. Number one rule of behavior analysis:

Kill the guy trying to seem not suspicious, not the guy who makes himself suspicious on his own.


Hmm maybe this is what I'm doing wrong.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
July 21 2009 18:51 GMT
#1476
I really didn't do much this game. I showed up late then blew up L and a priest.

I kinda feel like changing my name to REM.
Cheese is good for you!
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 21 2009 18:53 GMT
#1477
I actually had Chezinu nailed solely on voting patterns before I died, but I wanted to hold off until MBH finished getting rezzed before making an accusation. (3rd or 4th person on a wagon is likely to be mafia - you were 3rd or 4th on every wagon that you voted for)

Speaking of dying, the first words out of my mouth when I read the clue post that morning was "Oh fuck." X_X

(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 21 2009 18:54 GMT
#1478
On July 22 2009 03:51 Scamp wrote:
I really didn't do much this game. I showed up late then blew up L and a priest.

I kinda feel like changing my name to REM.


Bastard! ;p
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 21 2009 19:02 GMT
#1479
Man, i played bad this game. Sorry.

I should have known pyrr was red as soon as i found motbob's post suggesting Falcynn as a red, which pyrr had taken with and run through the thread always saying how Falcynn was def mafia. It wasnt until pyrr said I was mafia and I went back that I realized he was mafia. But I didn't know how to convince the town of that.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 21 2009 19:05 GMT
#1480
gg~

my question to the medic is why you didn't talk to me after u protted me -_-;
i might've lived till the end and convinced people to leave lenwe alone .. he was on my innocent list quite early on, dont remember why

storr really did confuse me this game though.. i was getting flashbacks of blindalbino posting
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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