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On July 13 2009 14:03 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 13:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 13 2009 12:56 Scaramanga wrote:On July 13 2009 10:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 13 2009 03:18 Scaramanga wrote: btw mafia list is
motbob (gf) pyrr faronel ecomania
Surely it wouldn't hurt to post your reasoning? Nope its already been posted by bc and foolishness throughout the thread against these 4, but even if your not mafia you've fucked this game so badly you deserve to be lynched Neither BC nor foolishness have called me mafia. Didnt say foolishness has, he posted against motbob and ecomania bc posted agaisnt you and faronel Everything BC posted against me was a clue analysis story that was made obviously false on Day 3.
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alright, here's what we know at this point:
We need to vote sunny.
ecomania is 99% sure mafia.
motbob is probably mafia, I dunno what percentage but well over 50%. If he turns green/blue, then faronel is 100% mafia.
pretty sure bockit is mr julia. BC showed us that the clues are based around a central theme, but if you notice for bockit, there is no central theme (BC lists his theme as "insane amount of things"). This probably forced Plexa to name him so the disparate clues could be seen as one persyn.
Almost certain the flying/gliding mafia is Falcynn. From your point of view, it's gonna be a choice between Falcynn and I but I can't do anything about that.
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motbob
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On July 13 2009 12:21 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 12:02 motbob wrote: wow OK looks like people suspect me pretty badly.
I'm gonna respond to Foolishness's original post accusing me.
- Suspicious voting behavior and posting during the BC/kuja lynch
Again, if you look at my posts when I was discussing with Bockit about what to do, there's no inconsistency in my opinions. Like I said before, I think that anyone who actually goes back and reads what I wrote in response to Bockit's arguments (and not just the posts that Foolishness cherry-picked) will absolve me of any wrongdoing yesterday.
- Suspicious voting behavior during the Truthbringer lynch
If you look at voting patterns, there were a lot of people who were voting Truthbringer without posting in the thread and were just following blindly the person who posted the original clue analysis for him, disregarding BC's loooong post on ydg without responding or anything. What I did was an anti-bandwagoning measure.
- Knowledge of the protect last night
What a dumb argument. The suicide bomber blew up 2 people (it's in the clues), 2 people were hit, mafia KP was 3, and therefore we had a protect. It's not rocket science.
- General suspicious and unhelpful posting
I assume this is because I haven't done any clue analysis? I don't do clue analysis anymore because I obviously suck at it. Remember last game, foolishness? Remember when I said "Raxor has to be mafia based on these clues" over and over again? Well, Raxor wasn't mafia and that's why I don't do clue analysis anymore. Post analysis got me far more accurate info.
Speaking of clue analysis, post some of me. Don't lynch someone without any clues pointing to them... BC tried to do that and it almost got ydg lynched. I believe that there are already some leads on clues pointing to you, as listed above. Yes maybe nothing definite, but the possibility is still there. I haven't looked that hard into it so you're better off confronting someone else who knows there stuff. Well can you please find someone who knows their stuff so I can actually defend myself? I only see 1 line of clue analysis on me anywhere in this thread...
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On July 13 2009 14:39 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 12:21 Foolishness wrote:On July 13 2009 12:02 motbob wrote: wow OK looks like people suspect me pretty badly.
I'm gonna respond to Foolishness's original post accusing me.
- Suspicious voting behavior and posting during the BC/kuja lynch
Again, if you look at my posts when I was discussing with Bockit about what to do, there's no inconsistency in my opinions. Like I said before, I think that anyone who actually goes back and reads what I wrote in response to Bockit's arguments (and not just the posts that Foolishness cherry-picked) will absolve me of any wrongdoing yesterday.
- Suspicious voting behavior during the Truthbringer lynch
If you look at voting patterns, there were a lot of people who were voting Truthbringer without posting in the thread and were just following blindly the person who posted the original clue analysis for him, disregarding BC's loooong post on ydg without responding or anything. What I did was an anti-bandwagoning measure.
- Knowledge of the protect last night
What a dumb argument. The suicide bomber blew up 2 people (it's in the clues), 2 people were hit, mafia KP was 3, and therefore we had a protect. It's not rocket science.
- General suspicious and unhelpful posting
I assume this is because I haven't done any clue analysis? I don't do clue analysis anymore because I obviously suck at it. Remember last game, foolishness? Remember when I said "Raxor has to be mafia based on these clues" over and over again? Well, Raxor wasn't mafia and that's why I don't do clue analysis anymore. Post analysis got me far more accurate info.
Speaking of clue analysis, post some of me. Don't lynch someone without any clues pointing to them... BC tried to do that and it almost got ydg lynched. I believe that there are already some leads on clues pointing to you, as listed above. Yes maybe nothing definite, but the possibility is still there. I haven't looked that hard into it so you're better off confronting someone else who knows there stuff. Well can you please find someone who knows their stuff so I can actually defend myself? I only see 1 line of clue analysis on me anywhere in this thread... It's pretty good, there's two towers so far and a tower in your quote, only other persyn with a tower is Faronel (as far as I've found).
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motbob
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But that's not the way Plexa does clues. He takes an element from your sig/profile/name and forms a character out of it. He said as much in that post of his that someone linked to earlier in the thread.
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Mr Julia candidates:
Preface: I think the reason Mr Julia is named is because their clues are more disparate and not themed like the others. This would fit a busy profile like bockit's that has no clear center to it (BC said Bockit's clues in Plexa's system could be an "insane amount of things".
iLoveKT
Behavior + Show Spoiler + Hasn't missed a vote, has never posted. Was very active in previous games I've played / ran with him as far as I recall (ran for office in my game). Would fit a godfather not wanting to lose his team the 1 KP / cover. (This whole "motbob must be GF because he talks a lot" thing is retarded. Only time GF would be talkative is if they had ran for office, which didn't seem to happen this game.)
Clues + Show Spoiler +The vampire thing, I'm iffy on at this point, but ydg pointed this out: "Btw, this vampire talk about Falcynn I don't think is strong (it's a very abstract blog post of his), but a google search for "iLoveKT" brings this page... http://vampirefreaks.com/ilovekt"From Day 2: "Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate." iLoveKT's profile pic has a sound pulsing on top of a rainbow of colors. I love KT's quote mentions 3 progamers, BackHo, Leta, and GoRush. GoRush has military training (ACE), Backho is the only player I know who's had a well known surgery (but it was a back surgery not facial surgery). The KT mascot doesn't have a nose... super weak there but Julia has so many weird stuff no one fits fully. Yellow bulbs could be like camera bulbs referencing KT's best player, Flash?
Bockit
Behavior + Show Spoiler + Maybe mafia wanted someone immune to rolechecks to start the BC bandwagon. A lot of other stuff looks pretty town-aligned though good GFs go against their brethren a lot. I guess Mr Julia may not be GF but it would make sense to me that the only named one would be GF.
Anyone notice this guy has gone totally silent since succeeding in Killing BC?
Clues
+ Show Spoiler + see the preface.
His WWII quote could be related to the military training.
any opera buffs know if there are any other clues? the glowing could be because he's a phantom and only partially part of this dimension or whatever
Reading up on the plot of this thing, the masked dude has a "lair" that he brings the girl he's after to, this could be like what Julia does bringing back judge to a location.
like BC (think it was BC) said, Bockit has a quote about binary that could explain prowess with electronic locks
"I am the master of vegetable timing rush. - Silver" Hoho, it's all coming together now. Mr Julia waits for the exact right time to strike!
Check out these quotes from Day 3, it's clear Plexa is alluding to a timing attack:
Mr Julia had been given a strict set of instructions to follow, and the first required him to wait until exactly 3:14am. As predicted, vx70GTOJudgexv left the building at the precise time. (just like waiting for an opponent to move out with too few units / too soon) The bulbs on Mr Julia’s skin began to change to a chilling shade of yellow as he realised he did not have much time left. (losing his timing opportunity)
MOST IMPORTANT / ORIGINAL CONTENT WARNING:the white mask from the phantom of the opera logo (bockit's special icon) is leather and the dude in that play has a deformed face like Mr Julia's. http://store.masksandmakebelieve.com/phlewh.html
PLUS, he has a quote about a timing attack and this is clearly alluded to in Plexa's post, check the Bockit clue spoiler above. Everybody read this I'll be damned if this gets lost in the shuffle.
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Mafia list is
motbob (gf) pyrr faronel ecomania IloveKT bockit
ez town win now, we have 6/6, lynch these people
pyrr may not be red, but he's gotta help the town 100% now to not die, vote sun btw i wanna kill a mafia
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On July 13 2009 15:46 Scaramanga wrote: Mafia list is
motbob (gf) pyrr faronel ecomania IloveKT bockit
ez town win now, we have 6/6, lynch these people
pyrr may not be red, but he's gotta help the town 100% now to not die, vote sun btw i wanna kill a mafia Leaving aside the fact that you haven't made an argument for my death other than "BC said so" (in a clue analysis he recanted, was made completely unworkable on day 3, and that I think I've found a much better explanation for) how are both IloveKT and bockit mafia?
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Oh I get it, whoever I accuse is mafia, because I'm mafia, and I'm mafia because I'm mafia. Brilliant.
Scaramanga is mafia. He's the godfather, and, like, Plexa didn't tell us or anything but he's like the right bit of Lavos from Chrono Trigger and if we kill him we instantly win the game.
Amazing head on our assassin here.
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LOLOL pyrr your mafia we get it, just relax
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motbob
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On July 13 2009 15:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Oh I get it, whoever I accuse is mafia, because I'm mafia, and I'm mafia because I'm mafia. Brilliant.
Scaramanga is mafia. He's the godfather, and, like, Plexa didn't tell us or anything but he's like the right bit of Lavos from Chrono Trigger and if we kill him we instantly win the game.
Amazing head on our assassin here. You're just trying to get attention off of me, the godfather -_-
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guys knock it off... i was the real godfather...
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On July 13 2009 16:19 redtooth wrote: guys knock it off... i was the real godfather... osnap ah theres no chance that the town can win now,
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motbob
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On July 13 2009 16:25 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 16:19 redtooth wrote: guys knock it off... i was the real godfather... osnap ah theres no chance that the town can win now, Why do you keep saying this, if we kill 2 mafia today it's 15-ish town vs 4 mafia and that's totally doable.
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On July 13 2009 16:25 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 16:19 redtooth wrote: guys knock it off... i was the real godfather... osnap ah theres no chance that the town can win now, sorry i lied. i'm actually a stupid pledge. and plexa i'll stop posting now.
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Still don't get why we'd kill motbob before ecomania when ecomania is 100% mafia and motbob is less than that and the motbob = gf because he talks is stupid in a game with cover. Bockit = named mafia = GF.
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motbob
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On July 13 2009 17:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Still don't get why we'd kill motbob before ecomania when ecomania is 100% mafia and motbob is less than that and the motbob = gf because he talks is stupid in a game with cover. Bockit = named mafia = GF. I don't understand this post at all but it looks like you're saying I'm not the godfather so I endorse it.
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On July 13 2009 18:25 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 17:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Still don't get why we'd kill motbob before ecomania when ecomania is 100% mafia and motbob is less than that and the motbob = gf because he talks is stupid in a game with cover. Bockit = named mafia = GF. I don't understand this post at all but it looks like you're saying I'm not the godfather so I endorse it. You're still mafia and dying very soon. Write your will.
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motbob
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On July 13 2009 18:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 18:25 motbob wrote:On July 13 2009 17:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Still don't get why we'd kill motbob before ecomania when ecomania is 100% mafia and motbob is less than that and the motbob = gf because he talks is stupid in a game with cover. Bockit = named mafia = GF. I don't understand this post at all but it looks like you're saying I'm not the godfather so I endorse it. You're still mafia and dying very soon. Write your will. Dammit dude no I'm fucking not
We both fell for Bockit's constant lies yesterday, I get all the blame and you get away scot-free, how fair is that.
I'm going to write my will anyway because I'm sure the assassin will read Foolishness's argument instead of actually going back and actually seeing what I wrote.
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Sydney2287 Posts
Hahaha "My constant lies".
I fucked up with BC. I'll be the first to admit that now.
I don't really know how I can convince you I'm not mafia, I can see that it looks like I am, but knowing what I knew prior to the flip, I would still have done the same thing because I wasn't pulling any of my reasoning out of thin air, it was all stuff that *did* happen.
Today I haven't been speaking to see who would try and shift the lynch onto me, knowing myself that I'm green, anyone that went out of their way to lynch me I thought would be suspect. Pyrrhuloxia has definitely stood out and I've noticed he just tried to save motbob (gone from 6 eco 6 mot to 6 eco 5 mot) so I think you (Scaramanga) might be onto something with him.
I'm just letting you know that I'm going to vote for him so you watch and see who tries to knock the votes back to 5 motbob 6 ecomania after I bring motbob back up to 6.
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