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On May 24 2009 15:09 Tricode wrote: MVP Ocz3c? most valuable player? I meant why is he MVP not what is mvp...seriously I should start ignoring your posts. | ||
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On May 24 2009 15:14 L wrote: That's why i switched the vig to him. I figured MBH would be killed 100% the next day because if i died it was so obvious he was mafia. In all fairness, there was a HUGE bandwagon attempt, but town should be running the numbers on their chances of survival to see how ambitious mafia are going to be with the votes. And you still medic protected him... | ||
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On May 24 2009 15:16 Qatol wrote: Absolutely you are. He outplayed everyone else this game by a decently large margin. Reread his posts. He only got agressive in his posting when people ignored his first posts. His reads were 100% correct. He caught MBH Showtime! and BloodyC0bbler but nobody listened to him. It's not what you know, it's what you can convince people to believe. | ||
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On May 24 2009 15:26 Caller wrote: he wrote MBH as mafia a long time ago apparently he didn't suspect me as red until the night i died  Hardly anyone (except MTF?) knew you were mafia until the end... | ||
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On May 24 2009 15:33 Ace wrote: nah, I'll keep doing it. I like to see the looks on your faces after. I feel no regrets on killing you if you do it. My face: before your lynch : -_- after your lynch: -_- | ||
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Anyway, Mafia played a great game and should have won. Actually... Town played a terrible game and should have lost. | ||
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On May 24 2009 16:26 Tricode wrote: My only regret was not being able to get you killed like i wanted. Maybe I should have just not switched my joke vote of killing BC... And 0cz was kind of right at the end. Bad presentation and bad timing though. MVP probably should be MTF... | ||
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On May 24 2009 16:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Town mvp should be 0cz3c, the guy had our numbers, and hard. MTF as a close second. Mafia mvp should be L for the obvious work he did for us. | ||
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A while ago (don't remember when, but I think it was after a game where mafia got completely destroyed), we discussed how most people didn't know how to play mafia well. Well, now that's kinda different. People know how to play mafia decently, they don't know how to play town well. Seriously all of this "I knew X and Y were mafia from day 2" BS doesn't matter if nobody can trust you as town. The yelling and other chaotic tactics employed by L/0cz3c/Ace don't help the town either. This style behavior makes it fairly easy for them to hide when they are in fact mafia. The ambiguity and chaos caused does not help the town. Its not the town's responsibility to figure out what you're really trying to say. Its not the town's responsibility to "read objectively". The only reason you'd have to post emotionally is when you're mafia. Its not your job to be right then act strangely arrogantly just because you are right. Its your job to make the town think you're innocent, then proceed accordingly. I think that people like Ace play this game simply to prove that they are right. They yell a lot, get themselves lynched, then yell back at the town saying how they suck and that they were too blind to see what was in front of them...It doesn't help at all. All it gives them is bragging rights to tell the town how they were right all along and that the town is stupid. At the point where you start bulldogging you might as well be dead. They are useless to you alive. Nobody will or wants to or even should listen to you KNOWING WHAT THEY KNOW at that point. Of course in retrospect you can yell at them and say how they suck, but it makes no sense when AT THE MOMENT you are just bringing suspicion onto yourself and not helping the town. A lot of townies did not do their job to make it clear that they were town aligned. I won't mention names but seriously you can't expect to construct poor defense, appear out of nowhere with accusations, and yell when there are better things you can be doing to help the town. Painting yourself as a target does not help the town at all. A townie's first job is not to find mafia. It is to make sure that he looks like a townie. Otherwise looking for mafia is hopeless. A lot of townies made themselves very suspicious. Mafia capitalized on this fact. As a rule, concern yourself with taking care of your own role before looking at other people's roles. | ||
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On May 25 2009 10:50 Malongo wrote: I love how a DT got the other DT scared enough to roleclaim. ??? | ||
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Was that my mistake...? Or his... | ||
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On May 25 2009 17:51 L wrote: Well, yes and no. If town had 2-3 more players who were active, yes. But they didn't, so no. Then again, look at the replies here. People are like 'LOL ITS NOT THE TOWN'S JOB TO THINK", "PLEASE GUIDE US IN A SHEEP-LIKE MANNER". Maybe 2-3 people wouldn't have done anything afterall :3. I never said its not the town's job to think. But your later post did say what I was trying to get at: This very auto-aggressive defence when criticized is exactly what I'm talking about. It makes you too suspicious as a townie, and sets you up for a mafia seeded fake clue interpretation or behavioral analysis. Its really quite difficult when sniffing out mafia to have to sift through townies that are self incriminating. I think we can agree that it is better to force mafia to look townish via townies making sure they look green instead of allowing mafia the luxury to appear suspicious because of townies who are doing the same. Simple activity is not enough. Mafia still hid well in this game even though most people were active. People need to be active, but they must act in the right way to force the mafia to act like the town. If townies self incriminate, we have even more problems. | ||
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