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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 09:02:43
May 11 2009 08:26 GMT
#1
Now, as we have our own forum we have come to the issue, as of now, only two hosts have been deemed good enough to ask to host repeat games being Myself and Chuiu.
Both ace and caller have run their own games, and although they had their issues, they were still fun.

With the creation of this forum, hopefully the player base and want of games will increase, as such we will need more than the host total we have now.

Current Host List
1. Chuiu
2. Bloodyc0bbler
3. Caller (if he wishes to do another game)
4. Ace (if he wishes to do another game)
5. Qatol
6. Pyrr
7. Semioldguy

We desperately need more hosts, here are the basics behind creating a game.

1. Deciding on game size.
This is a relatively easy choice to make. The smaller the player count, the faster your game will go, The less roles you have overall, and hopefully, a more active game. The larger the game, the longer it will run, more roles overall, but, with increased numbers increases the amount of inactive players (typicaly). As a host it is up to you to weigh what choices you view are optimal.

2. Decide on game style/theme.
This is the general type of game you want to run. When I say style or theme, I refer to how you want to run your game. Do you want two mafia families? Do you want hidden role counts, etc... This is a key point of consideration when your making a game, as you have to balance as best as possible around this style, as each requires different balancing techniques.

3. Role counts
Once you have your theme down, and your total game size, you have to figure out how many roles your giving out.

General rule is normally 1 mafia for every 5 players, and roughly 1.25 blue roles per 5 players. specific blue roles are usually on a 1 dt/1vig/2 medic ratio.

4. Roles and rules
Each game has its own set of rules, and roles that make it unique. The general rule set used can be found in any of chuiu's games (they have stayed very similar from games 1 - 5 of his)

Roles however change from game to game. Generic role names kept in most games are
Detective, Vigilante, and Paramedic for blues and
Mafia and godfather for reds
Townies for the rest.

Some games add other new roles, but for each new one added to the game, each other role must be tweaked to make sure neither side is stronger than the other.

5. Pace of game
Each game lives and dies based on how quickly it runs. Day's can't be too long, or too short, same with nights. Based on your player count, set a general time for transitions, and try to only deviate from this set time due to player request, player activity or the like.

6. Night Posts
Night posts can be one of the hardest thing for a new host to do, if they have no experience in any form of writing. It is not as hard if you don't include clues into your writing and do a no clue game, however, clue games require making them difficult enough that the town is required to think, but not too hard that no one can solve them. Try to use clear language, and don't let your sentences drag out unless you have to.


If anyone thinks of anything else, wants a new confirmed host added, or wants any hosting advice, let me know.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 12 2009 03:04 GMT
#2
Thanks for the guide BC, at the moment I'm really pressed for time and I don't have much of a chance to host a game, however, in a couple of months time I do want to give it a go. For me the issues would be writing the clues, and balancing role counts. I really, really loved the clue style from Game 2, where the mafia were all named, I'd probably go with something like that.

But balance, I really have no idea how you decide the rolecounts. I can see for example that giving town 5 dts is a bad thing, but deciding between say 3/2 combined with other role counts is something I don't feel confident saying this way/that way at the moment. That's easily solved I guess by discussing it.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
May 12 2009 03:09 GMT
#3
Its one of those things that like, Writing it all out is extremely hard to teach through, those are the general steps. I learned basically by mirroring chuiu's format and doing minor minor tweaking to make it my own game. If i think of a clearer way of doing it(which i am thinking on anyway) i shall toss it in.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
May 12 2009 03:13 GMT
#4
7. Remember to read all of your PMs and enforce your own rules.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 03:21:55
May 12 2009 03:20 GMT
#5
I would love to host but I will be very busy until the end of the week.

Here's what we should do XD

Team Liquid MAFIYA

Hello fellow countrymen! The Great Patriotic Province of Liquidia has been infiltrated by the Mafiya! We must root out these criminals before they can defiler our beloved motherland with the blood of our comrades!

Occupations:

Premier: Great countrymen elect our proud official! He has power to vote more times, da! Also may lynch one person on day one, da! But his role becomes Mayor to NKVD and Mafiya checks, nichevo, nichevo.

Bodyguard: You are defender of the rule of the people! The Premier cannot be targeted at night while you still draw breath! You do not know the other bodyguard(s).

NKVD Agent: You are proud member of People’s Commissariat of the Interior! You search for corrupt officials once per night, either by tracking the foul capitalist smell of the clues they leave behind, or by contacting NKVD HQ for a role check on a suspicious individual. Be warned, you cannot contact NKVD more than 3 times, they are very busy!

Commissar: You are guardian of justice and harbinger of the people’s will! You may dispose of one person after Night 2, whether they be Mafiya or innocent sympathizer!

KGB Agent: You are defender of weak from the fascists! You may stakeout one person every night and scare off an attacker if one comes to kill your comrades!

Red Army Veteran: You are courageous victorious soldier from Great Patriotic War! You are strong like bull, and can take two hits to kill!

Comrade: You are a fellow Soviet Comrade! You may participate in our soviet to vote on the cowardly pigs that are infesting our town with the stench of their crime and corruption!

Mafiya: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our town! After Mafiya boss was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Mafiya, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own mafia if you are not careful, da!


Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 12 2009 03:49 GMT
#6
On May 12 2009 12:20 Caller wrote:
I would love to host but I will be very busy until the end of the week.

Here's what we should do XD

Show nested quote +
Team Liquid MAFIYA

Hello fellow countrymen! The Great Patriotic Province of Liquidia has been infiltrated by the Mafiya! We must root out these criminals before they can defiler our beloved motherland with the blood of our comrades!

Occupations:

Premier: Great countrymen elect our proud official! He has power to vote more times, da! Also may lynch one person on day one, da! But his role becomes Mayor to NKVD and Mafiya checks, nichevo, nichevo.

Bodyguard: You are defender of the rule of the people! The Premier cannot be targeted at night while you still draw breath! You do not know the other bodyguard(s).

NKVD Agent: You are proud member of People’s Commissariat of the Interior! You search for corrupt officials once per night, either by tracking the foul capitalist smell of the clues they leave behind, or by contacting NKVD HQ for a role check on a suspicious individual. Be warned, you cannot contact NKVD more than 3 times, they are very busy!

Commissar: You are guardian of justice and harbinger of the people’s will! You may dispose of one person after Night 2, whether they be Mafiya or innocent sympathizer!

KGB Agent: You are defender of weak from the fascists! You may stakeout one person every night and scare off an attacker if one comes to kill your comrades!

Red Army Veteran: You are courageous victorious soldier from Great Patriotic War! You are strong like bull, and can take two hits to kill!

Comrade: You are a fellow Soviet Comrade! You may participate in our soviet to vote on the cowardly pigs that are infesting our town with the stench of their crime and corruption!

Mafiya: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our town! After Mafiya boss was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Mafiya, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own mafia if you are not careful, da!



I think this game can only be run properly by mani.

Anyways, unless people object now I think I will volunteer to run the next game, as I have plenty of time currently.
Uff Da
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 03:53:37
May 12 2009 03:53 GMT
#7
On May 12 2009 12:49 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2009 12:20 Caller wrote:
I would love to host but I will be very busy until the end of the week.

Here's what we should do XD

Team Liquid MAFIYA

Hello fellow countrymen! The Great Patriotic Province of Liquidia has been infiltrated by the Mafiya! We must root out these criminals before they can defiler our beloved motherland with the blood of our comrades!

Occupations:

Premier: Great countrymen elect our proud official! He has power to vote more times, da! Also may lynch one person on day one, da! But his role becomes Mayor to NKVD and Mafiya checks, nichevo, nichevo.

Bodyguard: You are defender of the rule of the people! The Premier cannot be targeted at night while you still draw breath! You do not know the other bodyguard(s).

NKVD Agent: You are proud member of People’s Commissariat of the Interior! You search for corrupt officials once per night, either by tracking the foul capitalist smell of the clues they leave behind, or by contacting NKVD HQ for a role check on a suspicious individual. Be warned, you cannot contact NKVD more than 3 times, they are very busy!

Commissar: You are guardian of justice and harbinger of the people’s will! You may dispose of one person after Night 2, whether they be Mafiya or innocent sympathizer!

KGB Agent: You are defender of weak from the fascists! You may stakeout one person every night and scare off an attacker if one comes to kill your comrades!

Red Army Veteran: You are courageous victorious soldier from Great Patriotic War! You are strong like bull, and can take two hits to kill!

Comrade: You are a fellow Soviet Comrade! You may participate in our soviet to vote on the cowardly pigs that are infesting our town with the stench of their crime and corruption!

Mafiya: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our town! After Mafiya boss was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Mafiya, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own mafia if you are not careful, da!



I think this game can only be run properly by mani.

Anyways, unless people object now I think I will volunteer to run the next game, as I have plenty of time currently.


But I already have such a good day 1 post...


Day 1:

In bright new day of Glorious Liquidia Socialist Republic, Comrade Brezhnev was waiting for the bus when suddenly he suffered a massive heart attack, tripped, messed up, said something in Norwegian, and then died! Glory to comrade Brezhnev, his sacrifice and toil for the brave workers of our union shall not be forgotten! We must find the criminal mafiya responsible for this!
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 08:02:21
May 12 2009 08:01 GMT
#8
On May 12 2009 12:53 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2009 12:49 Qatol wrote:
On May 12 2009 12:20 Caller wrote:
I would love to host but I will be very busy until the end of the week.

Here's what we should do XD

Team Liquid MAFIYA

Hello fellow countrymen! The Great Patriotic Province of Liquidia has been infiltrated by the Mafiya! We must root out these criminals before they can defiler our beloved motherland with the blood of our comrades!

Occupations:

Premier: Great countrymen elect our proud official! He has power to vote more times, da! Also may lynch one person on day one, da! But his role becomes Mayor to NKVD and Mafiya checks, nichevo, nichevo.

Bodyguard: You are defender of the rule of the people! The Premier cannot be targeted at night while you still draw breath! You do not know the other bodyguard(s).

NKVD Agent: You are proud member of People’s Commissariat of the Interior! You search for corrupt officials once per night, either by tracking the foul capitalist smell of the clues they leave behind, or by contacting NKVD HQ for a role check on a suspicious individual. Be warned, you cannot contact NKVD more than 3 times, they are very busy!

Commissar: You are guardian of justice and harbinger of the people’s will! You may dispose of one person after Night 2, whether they be Mafiya or innocent sympathizer!

KGB Agent: You are defender of weak from the fascists! You may stakeout one person every night and scare off an attacker if one comes to kill your comrades!

Red Army Veteran: You are courageous victorious soldier from Great Patriotic War! You are strong like bull, and can take two hits to kill!

Comrade: You are a fellow Soviet Comrade! You may participate in our soviet to vote on the cowardly pigs that are infesting our town with the stench of their crime and corruption!

Mafiya: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our town! After Mafiya boss was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Mafiya, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own mafia if you are not careful, da!



I think this game can only be run properly by mani.

Anyways, unless people object now I think I will volunteer to run the next game, as I have plenty of time currently.


But I already have such a good day 1 post...

Show nested quote +

Day 1:

In bright new day of Glorious Liquidia Socialist Republic, Comrade Brezhnev was waiting for the bus when suddenly he suffered a massive heart attack, tripped, messed up, said something in Norwegian, and then died! Glory to comrade Brezhnev, his sacrifice and toil for the brave workers of our union shall not be forgotten! We must find the criminal mafiya responsible for this!



I vote to lynch L!

Also, comrade Qatol for Premier. He can not be mafiya scum.
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
May 12 2009 22:20 GMT
#9
Night posts can be one of the hardest thing for a new host to do, if they have no experience in any form of writing. It is not as hard if you don't include clues into your writing and do a no clue game, however, clue games require making them difficult enough that the town is required to think, but not too hard that no one can solve them. Try to use clear language, and don't let your sentences drag out unless you have to.


And try to use proper grammar.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
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