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What kinda idiot says "oh woe is me, thanks for the game, learn from your mistakes!" and expects to be saved?
You. Right now. Unless you want to die, in which case you're hurting whatever side you're on.
Thanks for making this analysis jokishly easy.
1. Any smart DT wouldn't bother to waste a check on someone who so obviously going to die and who's role will be revealed in a matter of posts. Please do pray that the DT(s) left in this game are not bubbling buffoons. If you DONT get killed. Durr, you're a good player, yet you magically forgot how to read? Interesting.
2. I don't expect any one to change their votes. Firstly, because when I have indeed defended myself, no one even bothered to respond. This tells me mafia, along with townies, have decided to ignore me. Cool beans. Secondly, I don't know many of you. This is my third game and the most attention I've received, period. Outside of ace, ver, and caller in past games, I haven't spoken to 90% of you all--- and you expect me to be capable of some grand coalition building escapade? I mean, I think highly of myself....but damn. So you expect to die? Your defense has been, for the large part, a joke. Multiple people have acknowledged this.
Lastly, why would I role call, period, even if I wasn't going to be lynched? There are multiple players with the same role-- how is there any way to verify I am telling the truth short of a DT check (which I already said is not going to happen) or my death? That's just stupid and unnecessary. Because the town has a limited amount of blue roles and even if you out yourself to the mafia by claiming DT or some shit, you will have saved the town a wasted lynch if you are innocent. If you were the godfather and did get checked, the DT now believes in you and you can act as his mouthpiece or form a circle of townie trust.
This is REALLY obvious, REALLY basic stuff. You aren't a bad player. Stop playing the dumb card because its obvious that it shouldn't even be in your fucking deck.
I mean seriously, after that last post i'm 100% certain you're mafia and you're going to try to get a pal to switch off to Quickstriker and get yourself rolechecked. Or were, until i made it lethal for someone to try.
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I changed my vote to Versatile, in light of recent events. I still dislike Quickstriker though.
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On April 30 2009 10:28 L wrote:Show nested quote +What kinda idiot says "oh woe is me, thanks for the game, learn from your mistakes!" and expects to be saved? You. Right now. Unless you want to die, in which case you're hurting whatever side you're on. Thanks for making this analysis jokishly easy. Show nested quote +1. Any smart DT wouldn't bother to waste a check on someone who so obviously going to die and who's role will be revealed in a matter of posts. Please do pray that the DT(s) left in this game are not bubbling buffoons. If you DONT get killed. Durr, you're a good player, yet you magically forgot how to read? Interesting. Show nested quote +2. I don't expect any one to change their votes. Firstly, because when I have indeed defended myself, no one even bothered to respond. This tells me mafia, along with townies, have decided to ignore me. Cool beans. Secondly, I don't know many of you. This is my third game and the most attention I've received, period. Outside of ace, ver, and caller in past games, I haven't spoken to 90% of you all--- and you expect me to be capable of some grand coalition building escapade? I mean, I think highly of myself....but damn. So you expect to die? Your defense has been, for the large part, a joke. Multiple people have acknowledged this. Show nested quote +Lastly, why would I role call, period, even if I wasn't going to be lynched? There are multiple players with the same role-- how is there any way to verify I am telling the truth short of a DT check (which I already said is not going to happen) or my death? That's just stupid and unnecessary. Because the town has a limited amount of blue roles and even if you out yourself to the mafia by claiming DT or some shit, you will have saved the town a wasted lynch if you are innocent. If you were the godfather and did get checked, the DT now believes in you and you can act as his mouthpiece or form a circle of townie trust. This is REALLY obvious, REALLY basic stuff. You aren't a bad player. Stop playing the dumb card because its obvious that it shouldn't even be in your fucking deck. I mean seriously, after that last post i'm 100% certain you're mafia and you're going to try to get a pal to switch off to Quickstriker and get yourself rolechecked. Or were, until i made it lethal for someone to try.
1. No, I'm not, because I don't expect to survive the lynch, how can I make that clearer? My fault if I misread part of your statement. Still doesn't matter though, 'cuz I'm not getting to next day.
2. WHY DO YOU THINK I'M NOT GOING TO BE LYNCHED? We've had multiple days to vote and I'm the leader. There's no way I'm living.
3. Er? WHO has acknowledged my defense? Don't worry....I'll wait. I've said MULTIPLE times that I've posted two times defending myself. NO one has yet to respond to either of those posts, so there has been no acknowledgment of my defense, period. Clearer by my behavior, I'm goofing around because a) I don't believe there is a shot in hell that people are going to change their minds about me and b) I can spam post because I'm like 1 of 3 consistent posters in here, it's not hurting anything/one because there isn't anything else going on.
4. The dumb card? Really though? You didn't even address my point, jackass.
*begin scene*
Verse: Ayo, I'm a DT y'all. Save me now.
Random: Really? But can you prove it?
Verse: Nah son, get another DT to check me.
*crickets*
If the situation were reversed, and the person getting lynched claimed a role, and there was no way to verify it, I'd say off with their head. Anyone can fake claim, wtf would you blindly believe them for? Be serious.
Oh and if I were indeed mafia, I definitely wouldn't have a teammate switch votes for me; or if I did, it woulda happened by now. We have no idea when BC is going to post; why would my teammates risk losing me?
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L's argument seems a bit forced, but that is how the game is "played".
(I wonder how many would get the subtle meaning of my statement  )
I saw BC on MSN today, but no reply 
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Its pretty simple. Until I noted that you were a better target than JeeJee, you weren't going to be lynched. Afterwards you were a grand total of ONE VOTE ahead of the other lynch target, and largely remain to be. If you had someone on your list switch to QS, everything i described would have happened. Now that doing so would reveal quite obviously that you're mafia and that your list-switcher are mafia, you won't do it to minimize the damage.
You don't expect to survive NOW because I've pinned you to the wall. At this point you're a butterfly in a pin box, and when night rolls around and your red bleeds out this won't matter. But prior to said pinning, you were obviously dancing around trying to tell the other bees where the honey was at.
I don't expect you to survive this lynch now either, and its pretty ridiculous that your longest and most content filled posts are only now that I've essentially assured that you die. Your prior defenses were obviously on the level of jokes which IS WHY NO ONE BOTHERED TEARING THEM DOWN. You knew this too. You admitted that you're a joke and just spamming around now, yet here you are replying seriously to me.
All I can say is that when you turn out to be red, I'm going to have myself a good strut for the day.
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L lol.... Is it really worth 2-3 mafia changing votes to save her if it would expose them all? Admittedly with what I said a page back, I would be looking a bit suspicious if that were to happen. However that entire family would most likely die in the next day cycle if they tried that. It is a retarded move. She knows that, and I haven't really seen any dumb card played :O but whatever.
On April 30 2009 09:29 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 09:16 Malongo wrote:On April 30 2009 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.
I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment. If versatile flips mafia you are looking as a strong candidate sir. However im all in against tricode this round so you have wait. But more importantly: BC where are you, oh where are you. Maybe he's hoping that when I do flip green/blue, he can say "AHA! I told you not to lynch her! trust me now!". Or maybe he's hoping to win brownie points with me. Yeah. I like that one better =D
haha oh man. Lets go with the latter!!
post game cyber?!?!?!
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On April 30 2009 12:09 L wrote:
Its pretty simple. Until I noted that you were a better target than JeeJee, you weren't going to be lynched. Afterwards you were a grand total of ONE VOTE ahead of the other lynch target, and largely remain to be. If you had someone on your list switch to QS, everything i described would have happened. Now that doing so would reveal quite obviously that you're mafia and that your list-switcher are mafia, you won't do it to minimize the damage.
You don't expect to survive NOW because I've pinned you to the wall. At this point you're a butterfly in a pin box, and when night rolls around and your red bleeds out this won't matter. But prior to said pinning, you were obviously dancing around trying to tell the other bees where the honey was at.
I don't expect you to survive this lynch now either, and its pretty ridiculous that your longest and most content filled posts are only now that I've essentially assured that you die. Your prior defenses were obviously on the level of jokes which IS WHY NO ONE BOTHERED TEARING THEM DOWN. You knew this too. You admitted that you're a joke and just spamming around now, yet here you are replying seriously to me.
All I can say is that when you turn out to be red, I'm going to have myself a good strut for the day.
ROFL @ your scenario. And yes, when pigs fly in a wintry hell while the devil ice-skates with Mother Teresa and Jesus flies around their heads on a unicorn, I'll believe you have a modicum of intelligence in your pea-sized brain.
"I've ensured you're going to die"? "I've pinned you to the wall"? Don't be so self-important, ass clown. I was dying regardless of your waste-of-space posts.
And as long as you promise to take a few dicks in the ass when I come up green/blue you cuntastical piece of shyt, I'm happy with that.
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On April 30 2009 12:09 L wrote:
Its pretty simple. Until I noted that you were a better target than JeeJee, you weren't going to be lynched. Afterwards you were a grand total of ONE VOTE ahead of the other lynch target, and largely remain to be. If you had someone on your list switch to QS, everything i described would have happened. Now that doing so would reveal quite obviously that you're mafia and that your list-switcher are mafia, you won't do it to minimize the damage.
You don't expect to survive NOW because I've pinned you to the wall. At this point you're a butterfly in a pin box, and when night rolls around and your red bleeds out this won't matter. But prior to said pinning, you were obviously dancing around trying to tell the other bees where the honey was at.
I don't expect you to survive this lynch now either, and its pretty ridiculous that your longest and most content filled posts are only now that I've essentially assured that you die. Your prior defenses were obviously on the level of jokes which IS WHY NO ONE BOTHERED TEARING THEM DOWN. You knew this too. You admitted that you're a joke and just spamming around now, yet here you are replying seriously to me.
All I can say is that when you turn out to be red, I'm going to have myself a good strut for the day.
By morning we will know whether you are a retarded ass townie or a mafia who just really wants to die.
Or super undercover mafia genius.
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On April 30 2009 12:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:L lol.... Is it really worth 2-3 mafia changing votes to save her if it would expose them all? Admittedly with what I said a page back, I would be looking a bit suspicious if that were to happen. However that entire family would most likely die in the next day cycle if they tried that. It is a retarded move. She knows that, and I haven't really seen any dumb card played :O but whatever. Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 09:29 Versatile wrote:On April 30 2009 09:16 Malongo wrote:On April 30 2009 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.
I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment. If versatile flips mafia you are looking as a strong candidate sir. However im all in against tricode this round so you have wait. But more importantly: BC where are you, oh where are you. Maybe he's hoping that when I do flip green/blue, he can say "AHA! I told you not to lynch her! trust me now!". Or maybe he's hoping to win brownie points with me. Yeah. I like that one better =D haha oh man. Lets go with the latter!! post game cyber?!?!?!
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hahahaha. These last 2 pages have been great. So much death about to happen :'(
Good thing I'm a medic and no one is ever gonna figure me out.
^_^
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FUCKING UNDERCOVER GODFATHER SCUM ACE.
I SEE THROUGH YOUR LESS THAN CLEVER DISGUISE
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Undercover Godfather? pshhhhhhhhhh
If I was mafia would I even be posting so much and so carelessly? oh wait...
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The more you post, the more i look at you and want to see how versatile flips. Note that you actually posted all this:
he was so lazy at the beggining, now that versatile is likely to get lynched is suddenly quite active
+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2009 10:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
yo dawgs, jus so u no i naught inactive.
Ima read it tomorrow then post, i'm lazy right now.
This post is so rare, he pretends to be acting town side but the last line reveals that its an answer to a player, i guess he was pmd about how suspicious he was (LucasWoj?). If something greens dont buy this shit of "hey you look mafia you better start posting."
+ Show Spoiler +On April 26 2009 06:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
wow shit, two mafia families. I skim read a lot of the thread, with the exception of the last two pages. So now we have two mafia families, nice BC :D pulled that over on us, and we are pretty sure we lost two DTs which kind of blows.
What we need to do now is ALL the people who were hit last night need to come forward DO NOT REVEAL IF YOU ARE A VET OR MEDIC PROTECTED
We need to figure out how many hits each mafia has so we can try to figure out what the kill formula is. I think 2 hits per mafia is way too weak. I also think 3 hits each mafia is weak, but just means that the mafia need to focus and make sure they kill the town and not each other. Which would make it hard. I can see 2 successful protects being possible, but 4 seems very unlikely.
Once we have that figured out, does anyone know who the two DTs were in contact with? The only way for no one to have any idea is if the two DTs role checked the godfather who claimed vet or something and just told him what they were figuring it was statistically in their favor for him to NOT be godfaher.
That seems very unlikely, unless hes a known power player from previous mafia games and has been active in the thread. Off the top of my head SoG and Caller come to mind from my post skimming, but those thoughts are just me thinking out loud and clearing some suggestions for what could cause the death of what seems like two DTs.
To summarize:
Before our lynch we need to figure out
1. Who got hit last night.
2. figure out max mafia kills/formula
3. Figure out who those DTs(?) blues were talking to.
If we can't figure out who they were talking to, we have to assume its a likely person to role check, and then be careful of any of the power players who have been active thus far.
Happy LucaS?
after Malongo pointed to tricode hes ok to lynch him, wut? no second opinion? just go lynch?
+ Show Spoiler +On April 26 2009 08:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
EBWOB: (or whatever SoG's acronym was) I am okay with voting for tricode if no one else shows up. But I say we wait a little to see if anyone can say that our DTs were talking to any potential mafioso
Then votes pile in Monoxide, JeeJee and Quickstriker. No words about JeeJee though. Note the bold line please.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 27 2009 23:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
the way QS posts is kind of annoying as well.
Im voting lynch just based off that.
.....you know and the other suspicious stuff!
Can anyone tell me if what 0cz3c said is worth reading? In the other mafia games he posted the most retarded shit and I don't feel like wasting 5-10 minutes reading his essay if its another one of those random "I am going to accuse the enire town of being mafia and I also happen to be EVERY SINGLE ROLE IN THE GAME" posts. (that were ridiculous and colored)
and just for the record, I don't consider the case of Monoxide to be weak at all, I think the accidental death clue links very well with him. However QS behavior and the clue links seem to be the best thing we have so far, so I will go with that. However I still think we need to consider Monoxide for possible next lynch candidate.
What? you want a DL because of laziness?
+ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2009 07:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:I don't think that there is no info to work with, so anyone using that excuse that we need to move to the next day and get more clues is probably a mafia who just wants to get to their night killing cycle  There is still a lot of debate over who is best to lynch. Off the clues and from whats going on, I don't believe Versatile is mafioso, however lynching her does now give us the MOST information. While I do think quickstriker and Monoxide have the best clues matching up to them, more information comes out of Versatile's death. So what would you guys prefer, more information or possible mafia kill?
The only reason I would double lynch tonight is to get both QS and Monoxide to save the trouble of thinking about them any further. Then we would be able to focus on Versatile.and Ace, you know I can out debate you
This is a lie, simply because (with the bolded live above) HE STILL HASNT VOTED
+ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2009 22:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am really tempted to change my vote, but I am also really lazy.
Someone starts defending versatile indirectly :S again you havent voted.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 30 2009 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.
I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment.
Yeah mafia really isnt dumb, wait, im not sure anymore.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 30 2009 12:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:L lol.... Is it really worth 2-3 mafia changing votes to save her if it would expose them all? Admittedly with what I said a page back, I would be looking a bit suspicious if that were to happen. However that entire family would most likely die in the next day cycle if they tried that. It is a retarded move. She knows that, and I haven't really seen any dumb card played :O but whatever. Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 09:29 Versatile wrote:On April 30 2009 09:16 Malongo wrote:On April 30 2009 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.
I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment. If versatile flips mafia you are looking as a strong candidate sir. However im all in against tricode this round so you have wait. But more importantly: BC where are you, oh where are you. Maybe he's hoping that when I do flip green/blue, he can say "AHA! I told you not to lynch her! trust me now!". Or maybe he's hoping to win brownie points with me. Yeah. I like that one better =D haha oh man. Lets go with the latter!! post game cyber?!?!?!
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Malongo, I can respect your post because you've actually read posts and are making a somewhat educated guess. That's the kinda activity the town needs. Good stuff.
I think I'm going off to bed now. gl and gg everyone if the game ends in my sleep, lol.
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L lol.... Is it really worth 2-3 mafia changing votes to save her if it would expose them all? If the flip was performed successfully:
1) Versatile does not die. Gets DT checked.
2) DTs get whatever fake role she picked, trust her.
3) Via a circle of trust, she can avoid future lynches.
This really isn't hard to see, and yet the fact that you two are playing at retard so well and so hard means that you're going to look REALLY bad when she flips red.
And as long as you promise to take a few dicks in the ass when I come up green/blue you cuntastical piece of shyt, I'm happy with that. Angry godfathers on day 2. Such a pity.
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And yeah, with the amount of people who have yet to vote, a group of mafia could easily have switched the result of this lynch, and when ver turns godfather blue they look like saints that saved the down from a costly dt/medic/whatever death.
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Lol I assure you I am not mafia. Although I am really surprised, I could of sworn I voted. Trust me, if I would never carelessly slip up and shout about voting if I didn't think I did it. I wonder where the fuck I posted that. I just voted for Versatile because at this point it doesn't even matter.
lol also that is a lot of evidence you just put against me, sorry its not really for anything! I am but an innocent townie! Add some clue linkage to your post and we can talk lynching :O!
But yeah, Lucas PM'd me and said I should be active and that I looked suspicious, I actually read his PM a little while before I was going to post anyway. As I said, I was busy at the time and was going to catch up to the thread on a certain day. Which I did do.
Also you misinterpreted a few things which just happen to be my brand of sarcasm, there is plenty of stuff listed for why to lynch monoxide or QS. I was joking when I said lynch because his posting annoys me, which is why I used an exclamation point.
But I will give you this, that is a nice post analysis and I can see how you would make all those interpretations. Just focus elsewhere, somewhere that you see clue evidence as well.
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L, like I said. Any attempt to shift the vote to NOT get her lynched would probably fail at this point. Her gap is too large (lol@sexualenuendo) in the voting. They would expose themselves pointlessly. and her NOT getting lynched now when most people want her too and then a bunch of last second vote swaps would look INCREDIBLY suspicious and EVEN IF she didn't die and the DTs checked her, they wouldn't trust her based off of your infiltration logic.
and no matter what she will die soon anyway, as it was said before, shes worth more to us dead than she is alive.
Plus keep this in mind, there are TWO mafia families. Each has about 4 members. I would say 4-6 each. They don't have a single mafia family with 10 people. They don't really have the man power to keep her alive, I think her vote lead is at 4 and she is most likely already voting against someone else.
To put it simply, the town would literally have to be strait out of The Ringer to blindly trust her after some suspicious shit like that, along with the god fathers ability to cloak.
Plus its godfather, not godmother. U gotz ta b a fewl naught 2 realize dat iz impossibal!!
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err EBWOP: Tomorrow I won't be posting a lot if at all, or I must keep myself not too active. I have an 11 page paper due on Friday that I have barely started. I also have work form 6:30 to 9:30 shitty shift and pointless. So I will be on the computer but trying to limit myself from TL, but I will probably fail to do so anyway.
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On April 30 2009 12:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
FUCKING UNDERCOVER GODFATHER SCUM ACE.
I SEE THROUGH YOUR LESS THAN CLEVER DISGUISE
i second this notion
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