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On March 20 2008 11:02 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 11:01 Mynock wrote:
Bah, another horrible move by Empyrean (assuming he is what he says he is). I was considering the chance that Emp was a townie, in which case what he was doing would have made some sense. First, he could draw the saboteur's ability away from the real roles, second, he might have wasted some of the mafia's killing power or even a suicide bomber.
Now, if he's indeed a townie he's made another crucial mistake, instead of confusing the mafia (and possibly sacrificing himself) he's confusing the town even further.
This is getting really weird now. But for now, I want to hear what others think tho. You just confused me :\ If he was a vanilla townie then we could have been wasting mafia roles, but they might have realized and ignored Emp. Or Emp really is a detective and he's trying to now avert attention from himself.
Exactly. If he was a vanilla townie and thought his position through properly, he would have realized that he can hurt the mafia more by lying about him being a detective.
Or, he's a detective after all, and is now just trying to save his hide.
Or, he's mafia, in which case the confusion is obvious, but then he just made himself suspicious for no real benefit, and the best move would jut be to hold him suspicious without any direct actions atm.
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Btw, and advice to paramedics: protect people who you see as being active and posting lots of proactive advice. Think the way a mafia would - it is in scum's best interest to target active, helping townies, so make your decisions based on that. Make them waste their hit power.
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And yes, in case mafia claims to be a detective, Ace coordinates the detectives so that they make a round-check (can even ask a Jack to help) by asking them to check certain people and send in their results without revealing them to anybody else. This way mafia loses a member quite soon and quite certainly. It also has to be added though, that role-checking the detectives is absolutely important tho, as they and the bodyguards are the base of the whole mayor-town network and have to work closely with the mayor.
Role-claiming other roles is also not a good idea for mafia, as roles can always be checked upon, and a mafia will always come into a short list of people and a lot of suspicion this way.
Imagine mafia claiming a paramedic role. Now mayor assigns the paramedics to different targets (only he knows the targets and their roles) - now if one of the targets still dies it means the mafia somehow knew about the protection and sent more killers or the protector wasn't even protecting anything. Equally, if the mafia does not target the fake medic's assignment, it basically ensures the target's safety. So it's almost as having an extra medic around 
Fake-claiming roles for mafia does not seem like a good strategy here.
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On March 20 2008 12:11 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 12:07 Mynock wrote:
Fake-claiming roles for mafia does not seem like a good strategy here. "But Empyrean's a mafia member! Let's lynch him!!" ... ...I'm very interested to see Ace's plans. He assured me he pretty much had lots of tricks up his sleeves. And by tricks I mean plans to lolown the mafia through logic and conservative play! EDIT: I'm satisfied with the results of the mayoral election. All I've managed to do is buy some time for more useful town members (if Mafia decides to lynch me, of course).
I never said we should lynch you. The best tactic for town right now is to wait out on you and see how things develop.
Lynching you if you're innocent is a set-back for the town, but keeping you if you're mafia is not really a problem. You'd just be like any other mafia, except more suspicious .
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I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here.
Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie.
Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy.
As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it.
Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office.
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On March 21 2008 02:48 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 02:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On March 20 2008 17:04 Naib wrote:On March 20 2008 15:07 Ace wrote:On March 20 2008 15:04 ahrara_ wrote:
Well, I still don't think you're worth trusting even with strats and suspicions.
Alven:
I sure as hell hope detectives aren't revealing their roles to him. If the Detectives investigate me, then reveal their roles to me and see I'm innocent then why wouldn't they PM me? As for Showtime: Another shitstrirrer (so is Shallow, but if you look at his usual TL posts...well...go figure) I believe both even being innocent, can cause more harm than good, so we might as well get them out of the way... Sorry, but...you're a fucking idiot! actually it's a sound strategy. Shit stirrers are no benefit to the town, and if we make it clear we'd lynch them they would shape up. If they continue to behave that way we have no choice but to think they are Mafia and get rid of them.
I have to agree. So far, shitstirrers like Shallow and Showtime! contributed nothing but confusion.
I really hope they are with mafia, cause whatever side they're on, they only hinder it...
Just let's hope they're no special towny roles, would suck to have them wasted like that.
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On March 21 2008 03:33 Showtime! wrote:
It still doesn't work Lucas because way too many people are inactive and it would take too much time. You wouldn't be able to measure it properly.
It adds to the possible combinations and clue interpretations (like it has been said already, mafia is lying, townies are not, and lies are more likely to catch up with the liars in the long run).
And to respond to your question: of course it would make no sense. But not much of what either you or Shallow said so far made much sense (all the stubborn bickering that is), so hey, how am I supposed to know?
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On March 21 2008 20:12 Naib wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 16:13 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:chuiu needs to make day post asap ! Well, you can't just "do that" even though we got way less spam this time (wait until next clues are out though, I'm sure that'll mean +20 pages under 5 hours  ). Even though the Town has very few things to do atm, the Mafia needs a lot of time to organize (20 people in a PM madness can be pretty time-consuming ) So let's just wait and pray for our lives
I don't think they would communicate through PMs tho, that's not really efficient. If I was mafia I'd make use of a separate forum created for this reason, passworded and all. Then again, if they don't use anything like that - more power to us
But yeah, awaiting day now, nothing better to do than speculate... :/
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Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!!
Daybreak when? I will die 
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On March 22 2008 12:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote:Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!! Daybreak when? I will die Mynock, I've had enough of these immature random accusations. I understand if you're just trying to have fun, but confusing the town is never a good thing.
Siddharta Fucking Gautama Buddha, you'll never stop, will you?
Mafia please kill me now, else I shoot myself out of frustration -_-;
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On March 22 2008 13:47 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2008 12:43 Mynock wrote:On March 22 2008 12:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote:Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!! Daybreak when? I will die Mynock, I've had enough of these immature random accusations. I understand if you're just trying to have fun, but confusing the town is never a good thing. Siddharta Fucking Gautama Buddha, you'll never stop, will you? Mafia please kill me now, else I shoot myself out of frustration -_-; Haha irony? WTF!
Nah, not really. Ace and I figured I'm probably a goner after Day2 - I then tried to just keep a low profile, but looks like that wasn't good enough.
Regardless, if the mafia figured I was supposed to be Blue as an indication of activity, they should now be disappointed.
Have fun playing this, I'll be curious to know what side finally prevails
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Make sure you avenge me guys
That whole using-my-head-as-a-blunt-instrument-of-pain was almost as sick as the new SP episode :/
So I'm expecting some retribution!
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Hey guys, just a heads up: exactly 50% of all the starting players (65/130) are now left in the game.
49.09% townies are alive.
55% mafia are alive.
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Yay Ace, Plexa and others! Take the elevator downstairs yo, that's where the real party's at!
Sure, heaven gives a nice view from up there, but on the other hand, all the upskirts make it worth it down here!
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"nemY
Just fucking guess"
Hahahaha.
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This thread is really going nowhere atm
Chuiu, how about a redistribution of inactives right about now? Both within mafia and townies. All the blues are dead anyway (well, except the veterans, but who cares about those), so unless the town drops the baggage (which is about 70%of players right now), this game will come to a halt within 5 nights and then it will patintly and idly wait until it is slowly decimated by the mafia :/
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Chuiu might want to speed things up a bit by making a day a day and a night another day each. Can't imagine what could take the mafia so long to select among 32 all confirmed greens and 6 all confirmed veterans. This round could be over in 2 weeks and we could go onto the next one, yay!
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Especially since they had a complete list of town roles handed to them on a golden plate in the middle of the game - a move which really could have easily been avoided, and yet with that kind of advantage, they still are in a difficult position ATM. Altho not to say Mafia can't win still.
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