woah, holy shit. that's unfair! some of us have jobs!!

anyway I think the random thing is crap, too. on average, each number will be generated once - so if all townies generate one random number, it'd be easy for only one or two mafia to come along and skew it. so, given that we're going with the random number thing, I think it might be pertinent to look into who is trying to do that, skew the vote.

that's why I would now abandon the random number thing and look at what people have said. If that gives no clues, I unfortunately would have to agree that with no information, the most bland people are to aim for because they will not be identifiable later.

I'm going to hang back with my vote just for now to see what you all get up to - after all, that'd be the best clue gathering tactic.

randombum

United States2378 Posts

February 26 2008 22:31 GMT

#68

I'm not so sure myself I'm going to keep my vote on a random person. Finding a non-contributer might be better. We'll see in another day after they have had their chances if they are in different time-zones. I really just wanted to start the game so that special moves can happen and clues be given for the next day. I did expect people to instantly think I was mafia, but I hoped that we could just move on and my actions though out the rest of the game would point out my towniehood.

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

February 26 2008 22:44 GMT

#69

I can appreciate the finding a non contributer, its just harsh at the moment as someone said earlier, weekends are a hard time to get people to play due to part time jobs for university students or any event as the like. It will be easier to vote tommorrow though so once day one is done, we should be able to get this ball rolling faster.

jtan

Sweden5891 Posts

February 26 2008 22:46 GMT

#70

On February 27 2008 06:47 randombum wrote:

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First so no fek and dragoon if you guys really did get me in the random generator than I have nothing against you. (Except maybe so no fek you know you are allowed to vote for yourself and able to change it away if it seems like you are about to die

It would help me, but you have no reason to so that is why this entire thing is in parentheses)

Jtan, kingkosi and zbir however, are not voting off random number. They simply have followed Jtan's theory, which is wrong. We do not have 0% chance of getting a mafia, but at least 13.3_% (4/30) up to 23.3_%(7/30). That's decent based of pure luck.

While its a high chance to get a townie.... there is no real way to increase chances of targeting a mafia member.

However, if you guys really do insist on voting me off first because i was the first to suggest a name then I'm actually OK with it. It beats putting a lot of effort into this thread to lose 1/2 though. (Although these posts have taken some time) But I urge you guys to not kill me cause I would prefer to live. If disagree with random numbers then follow Ace's advice and get someone who does not contribute instead

First, I maintain that randoming this early would yield a lot lower than a 13.3% to get a mafia, since mafias obviously wont random honestly. If they see 1 person got 2 votes then add 2 more and he's pretty dead.

Also, what made me vote for you was mainly this post

On February 26 2008 12:45 randombum wrote:
(...)
Rofl that's funny.

And why is everybody doing their own random number? This is going to end up with really split up votes... The plan was to random number one poor person and get rid of him as a town.

Yeah, so everybody was just gonna go ahead and use your number?

Still I don't really think you're mafia, but you are the only person who said something a little bit suspicious so I'll keep my vote on you for now.

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

February 26 2008 22:52 GMT

#71

VOTECOUNT

Neax (3): MidnightGladius, randombum, Caller
Kingkosi (1): Empyrean
Folca (1): BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler (1): NatsuTerran
ulszz (1): ulszz
randombum: (3): so no fek, kingkosi, Dr. Dragoon, jtan, so no fek, ZBiR
JimTudor: (1): araav
betaben: (2): Artanis[xp], so no fek
GeneralStan: (1): bp1696
MidnightGladius: (1): GeneralStan
Klive5ive: (1): MasterofChaos
Fishball: (1): Kingkosi

27 hours to go. With 30 alive, it takes 16 to lynch.

If it's unclear, names in italics represent people who have voted for this person earlier in the day, and later retracted their votes.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

February 26 2008 22:54 GMT

#72

hmmm...I actually think Jtan is an innocent Townie.

His post makes way too much sense to be Mafia

Dr.Dragoon

United States1241 Posts

February 26 2008 23:06 GMT

#73

On February 27 2008 07:54 Ace wrote:
hmmm...I actually think Jtan is an innocent Townie.

His post makes way too much sense to be Mafia

No it doesn't. You should always be suspicious of the people who make too much sense, especially when they're doing it at a point when they're not in danger.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

February 26 2008 23:07 GMT

#74

I have to agree that randombum sounds a little suspcious. If we're doing it by random, he's as good a choice as any, if he's scum trying to get a townie lynched, then great!

##Unvote MidnightGladius
##Vote randombum

Ace

United States16096 Posts

February 26 2008 23:27 GMT

#75

On February 27 2008 08:06 Dr.Dragoon wrote:

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No it doesn't. You should always be suspicious of the people who make too much sense, especially when they're doing it at a point when they're not in danger.

As opposed to be believing in people that DONT make sense?

honestly, I'd rather take my chances on someone intelligent because an idiot is gonna get us killed no matter what side they are on.

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

February 26 2008 23:31 GMT

#76

This round of voting is rather silly.
Random votes don't really work because the SCUM can vote too.
If we are going to random vote we need to wait til the last moment and then vote together, otherwise it's almost certain that the SCUM will kill one of us off.
Oh and by the way, I'm a marine.

Dr.Dragoon

United States1241 Posts

February 26 2008 23:37 GMT

#77

On February 27 2008 08:27 Ace wrote:

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As opposed to be believing in people that DONT make sense?

honestly, I'd rather take my chances on someone intelligent because an idiot is gonna get us killed no matter what side they are on.

You don't have to believe anyone. At this point, I only trust myself and I'll keep it that way for awhile. If I let someone influence me at this point in the game, I could just end up being their pawn. Just look at the other mafia game. Everyone thinks so and so makes sense, they follow them, town gets screwed.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

February 26 2008 23:44 GMT

#78

Oh I dont TRUST anyone right now, I'm just pointing out who is making sense and who isn't.

Just because I'm saying I believe Jtan isn't Mafia doesn't mean I really do - Mafia aren't the only ones who can play games.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

February 26 2008 23:49 GMT

#79

##Unvote betaben
##Vote Sadir

I like the idea of voting for people who haven't posted anything interesting yet, and will adapt using the same strategy. It'll be the only way to get people to talk, which is beneficial for town.

As of now, I don't really suspect anyone yet. I hope that the person that whoever gets killed at night by the mafia will give us a lead as to who could be suspicious, but I have the idea that it'll take a while before we see anything useful popping up.

I'm also opposed to the idea of voting for RandomBum just because he started with the random numbers idea. With this train of thought, no one would ever suggest anything new anymore, which is obviously not a good thing for town.

Also, if there are any cops out there, I suggest they investigate the lynch to find out what cop they are, though you'll need to investigate both one scum and one townsfolk to be sure of your role, as you could be paranoid or naive as well. Let's see where this leads us.