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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 16:12 GMT
#325
On June 08 2024 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Also, are we not claiming who is whispered with who?

I bet it’s mafia and they are scared
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 16:24 GMT
#333
On June 08 2024 01:14 Vivax wrote:
I can‘t figure out who AZ is but after going over him and a few other filters I think town.

I‘m mostly at where marv is in places Slam DMB null.

My fav pile to look into would be scott/Kelsier as previously stated but I‘d like to add rsoultin to the mix.

[b]##vote vivax
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 17:38 GMT
#349
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:00 GMT
#451
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?


hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:06 GMT
#454
On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?


hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????

why are you so surprised?

The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring”
That’s not a real read
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:06 GMT
#455
Idc about the rest of the stuff it’s just fluff
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:06 GMT
#456
Kel is very defensive over nothing burger from trfel, can’t tell if it’s playing feigned outrage or real outrage
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:07 GMT
#457
On June 08 2024 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?


hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????

why are you so surprised?

The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring”
That’s not a real read

+ she just spams Sandro mafia lynch Sandro with me when he’s literally in the thread
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:08 GMT
#458
I think vivax is easily mafia here though, he’s playing super scared to make posts and has resorted to posting inane townreads
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:11 GMT
#461
On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 05:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?


hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????

why are you so surprised?

The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring”
That’s not a real read

+ she just spams Sandro mafia lynch Sandro with me when he’s literally in the thread

so wait, you think rsoultin is mafia?

because of what exactly?

Can you let me play or what

What’s your vivax read
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 20:13 GMT
#465
Unfortunately this is the last post I’m gonna make for a while

Sandro looks fine marv is eh I would like kelsier to make a scum read and I’d like trfel and mocsta to make readable posts please
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 21:06 GMT
#477
On June 08 2024 05:35 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 03:09 Trfel wrote:
Worst List Post of All Time

Town

Maybe Town
rsoultin + Show Spoiler +
It's very easy to follow her thought process.

raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +
Raynpelikoneet is generally helpful, but in this game, he's shown original/unique thought, as opposed to just "normal" lines of reasoning.

Mocsta + Show Spoiler +
This is a dangerous read since I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what Mocsta is getting at sometimes and I don't have the focus to try and wade through it and actually figure it out, but I still like how Mocsta is very willing to go against the thread sentiment. Mafia can imitate this but I think it's much less likely.


Unknown
Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler +
Oatsmaster's posting has trended towards my expectations for him, as described here. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that means with regards to Oatsmaster's alignment. Congratulations on wasting your time reading this

scott31337 + Show Spoiler +
Made you look

die_meatbaby
sandroba
marvellosity + Show Spoiler +
I dunno. Really like his posting style, funniest person in the game by far. But I don't actually like this thoughts all that much, which makes me sad Specifically the post on rsoultin that raynpelikoneet just quoted, I was going to say the same thing. It's very easy to point fingers and say "that person hasn't done anything yet!" when the person in question was only present for the first four and a half pages of the game, when there isn't that much to be done. It's hard for me to understand how marvellosity (of all people) could completely miss this. Feels like taking a cheap shot to discredit someone and make yourself look better.

Vivax + Show Spoiler +
He hasn't really made much of an impression to me yet, to be honest.

AlphaZero + Show Spoiler +
Not sure. Opening posts seem quite reasonable, but I have a much harder time following the thinking after.


Maybe Mafia
Alakaslam + Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 22:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole how did I forget this

My work, my work! Don't post too much!

I shall return

When I come back, I expect to see much vote alakaslam based on this... but I can do no different!
Uh, maybe I'm falling into the Chezinu trap with Alakaslam, but I actually think this is suspicious?

Like, forgetting about the game or going to work or not posting isn't suspicious at all. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, Alakaslam is one of those people who likes to post as mafia, so him not posting isn't a mafia indicator IMO regardless.

What is suspicious is the self awareness. Specifically I am looking at a few games ago, it was a Grackaroni game where he invited everyone to the Discord server and Alakaslam was one of the first three people to join. So when three people joined, he thought that was the mafia Discord server and that he was mafia with them, and he said something like "I can't play for a few hours so go ahead and bus me for a while" which IMO doesn't make much sense, who pushes someone for being away for a few hours? But it shows that Alakaslam is exceptionally self-aware/self-conscious as mafia, particularly about activity levels.

Unfortunately I can't say that Alakaslam isn't like this as town. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has this mindset as town, but it's still possible. Regardless though I think it's worth keeping in mind.

Kelsi3r + Show Spoiler +
I admit that I struggled a bit to understand Kelsi3r and Mocsta's discussion but my initial point still stands.
On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote:
I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that.
What does it say about scott? I don't know
But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage.

Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over.

That's an ok starting point.
Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious.

If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place.

And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however?

New top suspect, I think.


Mafia

Idk, am I being too stubborn? I legitimately think that Kelsi3r is a valid suspect, and he hasn't done anything to give me pause yet.



I appreciate the work here. Most I can understand and follow.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 03:14 Kelsi3r wrote:
Do i need to read anything?


Sigh.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 03:19 Trfel wrote:
Like, EVEN IF we ignore the big juicy reason to suspect Kelsi3r:

He hasn't really done anything? List of what he's done:
  • Doesnt' like Vivax
  • Likes AlphaZero
  • Likes rsoultin
  • Trfel is active, activity maybe is town
  • raynpelikoneet is active, activity maybe is town
Then the kicker, he stayed around to discuss for a while but just answered questions and didn't actually share any new thoughts. I'd be more okay with this if he'd shared a bunch of thoughts earlier, but this really feels like posting for the sake of posting and not looking to solve the game. Note that he has shared zero suspicions of anyone whatsoever, but seems content to not work towards changing that. And he even said that this is an okay starting point?

Not having any scumreads/suspicions, sure. But in combination with actually being somewhat present and posting? And in combination with the other thing, townreading rsoultin for liking with something that he didn't agree with himself? Would very much like to discuss this.


Kinda already am (Since I'm voting for him) but could sheep this

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 04:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:
On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote:
So far I like rayn and trfel as town.

So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?!

Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town.


you stole my story

who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott?

i'm bored of the scott conversation

Is this not the person YOU want to lynch? Wtf


A good catch.

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On June 08 2024 04:36 Kelsi3r wrote:
On June 08 2024 04:31 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:24 sandroba wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote:
On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:
On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?!

Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town.


you stole my story

who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott?

i'm bored of the scott conversation

I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean

what are you talking about regarding me?

You said you liked rsoul read on me, then asked her what is the case against me. Explain

I "like her read" (lets put it this way -- because i do not necessarily agree with it) on you because in my experience rsoultin hates lying and taking a stance like that (which is not completely unreasonable), points towards her being town. I mean i can go further into this if you want to, but i just dont think she would accuse town!sandroba as mafia!rsoultin (even less if youre both mafia) like that.

Basically i don't agree with her, that what you said and did makes you mafia, but i think it makes her town.
@Alakaslam, it looks like you are posting as you catch up, but just in case that isn't true, here is the post you said you wanted to see.

I also bring this up to make a point about Kelsi3r. Raynpelikoneet does a very nice job of explaining how he can think someone is town due a read he doesn't agree with. My point though, is, see how it requires a meaningful explanation? Like without the explanation, it doesn't make sense. I can kinda understand Kelsi3r townreading AlphaZero for his scott31337 post, but I really can't understand townreading rsoultin for being interested in AlphaZero's scott31337 post. If he had an explanation that made it make sense I'd consider it, but he doesn't, his explanation is pretty weak imo, and not at all insightful.

It's not that what Kelsi3r did is inherently scummy, it's that the way he went about it doesn't make sense.


you need to drop this shit


Instead of explaining your mindset, you say this?

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????

why are you so surprised?

The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring”
That’s not a real read

+ she just spams Sandro mafia lynch Sandro with me when he’s literally in the thread

so wait, you think rsoultin is mafia?

because of what exactly?

Can you let me play or what

What’s your vivax read

this is a townie post imo.

fuck it i actually think Oats is town here.


I still don't get who Oats wants to lynch though. I mean we got another day, but still...

I kind of don't want to lynch Slam anymore either.

But I'm not fully won over on Oats. Rayn and Sandroba are like "ta da Let's call Oats town" - uggg


I have made one of 4 votes in this game and you don’t get who I want to lynch?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 22:54 GMT
#516
On June 08 2024 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
idk about viva i think that's more nully...i like some things but i'm missing some of that out of the box thinking that's classic town viva

i don't think i'd lynch him today in any case

What do you like from vivax
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:02 GMT
#522
On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.

Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.

And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…

I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.

I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.

Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,

Won’t lynch Marv today.

Rso has felt town by vibe.

Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him

Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.

Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.

Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.

Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff.
I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying But you get my point.

Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing?


It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things.
Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it.

I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet)

Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax?

? Vivax just randomly calling posts town you think is good?
Also him bring afraid to post is good? Also him not constantly seeing shadows?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:06 GMT
#525
Lynch vivax with me marv
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:07 GMT
#527
On June 08 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 07:59 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:56 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:40 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i found one true town in rsoultin.
Best read so dar.

Based on your well known excellent read of her, as you yourself mentioned?

Also based on rsoultins filter at the time I don’t see how you can disagree with what I said
The argument isn't really about rsoultin's filter, it's that rsoultin's last post at the time in question was about halfway down page 8 of the thread.

I don't understand what you are expecting her, or anyone for that matter, to say, at that point in the thread when there is so little actual information to work with?

Okay. Here it is.

To be frank I had no idea where in the thread rsouls last post went to. I just clicked her filter because someone (??) mentioned her and I looked and didn’t see much. If the context of the thread is that she shouldn’t have said anything, I am more than happy to stand corrected.

I mean, I assume there was a reason she was in my null pile when I made the list
I mean I guess it depends on your standards for post quality by mid page 8. To me, there wasn't a ton worth deeply analyzing, just the scott31337 thing and maybe a small raynpelikoneet thing if you care about that.

You misunderstood what I said truffle
I don't think I did? But maybe I'm just stupid. Regardless I don't think it's important.

I mean maybe me being stupid is important in the negative sense, but that's a bit harder to fix.

Regardless I'm happy to let this drop for now and let you do your thing.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 07:59 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:53 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:46 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.

Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.

And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…

I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.

I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.

Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,

Won’t lynch Marv today.

Rso has felt town by vibe.

Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him

Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.

Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.

Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.

Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff.
I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying But you get my point.

Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing?


It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things.
Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it.

I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet)

Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax?


Sandros catchup posting resonated with me. He seemed to be just comfortable putting things out there.

Vivax im not sure anyone should how anyone could call him town right now.

He looked ok initially. Recently pretty meh.
I agree about Vivax, he feels decidedly meh to me.

Can I ask more about sandroba? Are you referring to the posts 2 hours ago, or 4? Because reading over both, I don't actually feel like he is doing much, just kinda asking questions. This isn't bad per se, but it doesn't really give me any reason to townread him? He hasn't had a ton of meaningful thoughts in a while imo.



I’m talking about his catchup and entry into the thread.

If you don’t think it’s bad what’s the issue. Sandro will look townie if he is town.
I don't see a ton wrong with what sandroba has posted tbh, it's more that I think he's capable of more? I was just trying to understand since it felt like a lot of people were having him as a top scumread and I am not seeing that super easily.
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On June 08 2024 08:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.

Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.

And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…

I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.

I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.

Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,

Won’t lynch Marv today.

Rso has felt town by vibe.

Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him

Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.

Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.

Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.

Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff.
I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying But you get my point.

Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing?


It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things.
Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it.

I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet)

Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax?

? Vivax just randomly calling posts town you think is good?
Also him bring afraid to post is good? Also him not constantly seeing shadows?
What do you mean by seeing shadows? Is that the same as being afraid to post, or something different?

Do you not expect Vivax to randomly call some things town if he is town?

Bottom point is bad play as mafia attempting to look random and post random unsubstantiated things. You’ve played with vivax before, you know how he gets seeing shadows if he’s town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:08 GMT
#528
@trfel
it felt like a lot of people were having him as a top scumread and I am not seeing that super easily.

Imma need you to source this please, who has him as a top scum read currenrly
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:15 GMT
#534
On June 08 2024 08:10 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 08 2024 05:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read?


hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes'

namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good

also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self

if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot

wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first

????

why are you so surprised?

The read is “Sandro’s filter is boring”
That’s not a real read

+ she just spams Sandro mafia lynch Sandro with me when he’s literally in the thread

so wait, you think rsoultin is mafia?

because of what exactly?

Can you let me play or what

What’s your vivax read
dayam I chuckled.outnloud with this

Town slight lean for me right there

Is this bravado in mafia!oats range?

Yes
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 23:16 GMT
#535
On June 08 2024 08:13 Vivax wrote:
I‘m at work fyi. Can‘t be all over the thread as usual. I‘m also in a really shitty mood but some who pretend to know me can likely figure it out

Got the wrong role pm I reckon
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2024 00:36 GMT
#614
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?

Source on the mafia meta read?
No gg, No skill.
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