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On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order" + Show Spoiler [Links] +So we have: Town: Koshi (previously scum voted)* Iamperfection Rayn Palmar
NA: DarthPunk sandroba Trfel marvellosity Jealous Meapak_Ziphh Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels Alakaslam
Scum: VE Jacob DMB CopCake Slam Vivax JAT
Koshi*
Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."
Seem right, @Oats? Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town: Koshi Iamperfection
Rayn Palmar Vivax JAT Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel marvellosity
Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels
Scum: Meapak_Ziphh Jealous [?]* Jacob VE DMB CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town: Koshi Iamperfection Palmar Vivax
JAT Jacob CopCake Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk marvellosity
ToTheStars Rels Jealous
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum
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On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order" + Show Spoiler [Links] +So we have: Town: Koshi (previously scum voted)* Iamperfection Rayn Palmar
NA: DarthPunk sandroba Trfel marvellosity Jealous Meapak_Ziphh Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels Alakaslam
Scum: VE Jacob DMB CopCake Slam Vivax JAT
Koshi*
Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."
Seem right, @Oats? Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town: Koshi Iamperfection
Rayn Palmar Vivax JAT Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel marvellosity
Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels
Scum: Meapak_Ziphh Jealous [?]* Jacob VE DMB CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town: Koshi Iamperfection Palmar Vivax
JAT Jacob CopCake Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk marvellosity
ToTheStars Rels Jealous
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one. 1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town? I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him. Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are
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I think overtly contesting the cop here is insane for cop to do as mafia, would make 0 sense
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On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order" + Show Spoiler [Links] +So we have: Town: Koshi (previously scum voted)* Iamperfection Rayn Palmar
NA: DarthPunk sandroba Trfel marvellosity Jealous Meapak_Ziphh Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels Alakaslam
Scum: VE Jacob DMB CopCake Slam Vivax JAT
Koshi*
Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."
Seem right, @Oats? Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town: Koshi Iamperfection
Rayn Palmar Vivax JAT Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel marvellosity
Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels
Scum: Meapak_Ziphh Jealous [?]* Jacob VE DMB CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town: Koshi Iamperfection Palmar Vivax
JAT Jacob CopCake Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk marvellosity
ToTheStars Rels Jealous
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one. 1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town? What do you think about my MZ post and dmb?
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On March 08 2024 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order" + Show Spoiler [Links] +So we have: Town: Koshi (previously scum voted)* Iamperfection Rayn Palmar
NA: DarthPunk sandroba Trfel marvellosity Jealous Meapak_Ziphh Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels Alakaslam
Scum: VE Jacob DMB CopCake Slam Vivax JAT
Koshi*
Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."
Seem right, @Oats? Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town: Koshi Iamperfection
Rayn Palmar Vivax JAT Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel marvellosity
Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels
Scum: Meapak_Ziphh Jealous [?]* Jacob VE DMB CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town: Koshi Iamperfection Palmar Vivax
JAT Jacob CopCake Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk marvellosity
ToTheStars Rels Jealous
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one. 1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town? I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him. Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today. The correct play is to lynch mafia.
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On March 08 2024 00:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:08 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote: DP and Vivax what are your reads?
All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town? These are good townie reads for d1 So what I was catching up. I mean scum can obviously make good townreads especially on 2 people that flipped and an uncced cop
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On March 08 2024 00:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order" + Show Spoiler [Links] +So we have: Town: Koshi (previously scum voted)* Iamperfection Rayn Palmar
NA: DarthPunk sandroba Trfel marvellosity Jealous Meapak_Ziphh Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels Alakaslam
Scum: VE Jacob DMB CopCake Slam Vivax JAT
Koshi*
Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."
Seem right, @Oats? Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town: Koshi Iamperfection
Rayn Palmar Vivax JAT Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel marvellosity
Hapahauli ToTheStars Rels
Scum: Meapak_Ziphh Jealous [?]* Jacob VE DMB CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town: Koshi Iamperfection Palmar Vivax
JAT Jacob CopCake Alakaslam
NA: DarthPunk marvellosity
ToTheStars Rels Jealous
Scum: JAT Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob ToTheStars VE DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one. 1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town? What do you think about my MZ post and dmb? It felt like a reactionary post because of their math/slamming the CopCake x Alakaslam line of discussion, like you got mad because they did that and messed up the % chances so you latched onto them for it. Like you, I wasn't thrilled about their Day 1 play, but it's also Day 1 stuff so I'm more willing to write it off when there were people I was more interested in looking into. I also agreed with you that I wanted them to elaborate on their new reads more, particularly the TRs. Without getting more elaboration I find it hard to evaluate how natural the progression is, but I do see your point and will keep an eye out. I also think that they weren't really active/trying to find mafia but they also at least gave a reason for it, as opposed to some other people. I agree that there is something worth digging into, I just don't think I feel as strongly about it as you seem to at this specific moment. RE: DMB, I didn't like their posting almost at any point to be honest, they were one of my frontrunners for a lynch, but I think I will have to back off of this until we see how you flip because of how quickly you voted DMB after Alakaslam's reveal. Things might be clearer then. I’m not really sure what you were trying to say with the first part unless you are saying that I saw that post and went wait wtf then filtered MZ, in which case that’s absolutely correct.
That’s fine regarding dmb.
You’ve spent a whole bunch of time looking at other peoples reads, can we get some of your reads?
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I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today
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On March 08 2024 00:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today Want to vote tts? Absolutely
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On March 08 2024 01:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today 😇 Is this me after I get lynched lol
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On March 08 2024 01:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today Want to vote tts? Absolutely Why not do it then Ladies first
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Okay bro I didn’t know you voted already I don’t check the vote thread lol
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I’m here if anyone wants to talk, I do wanna look into koshi at some point today but that’s a later thing
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On March 08 2024 01:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:02 Palmar wrote: I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who. Palmar not sure if anyone asked you this but why did you ignore all the logic and reasoning behind who whispered who and why. He really said this and still thinks it’s extremely unlikely I’m town that’s crazy
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Mafia getting both whispers is way more unlikely than me getting red checked cmon
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On March 08 2024 01:44 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Mafia getting both whispers is way more unlikely than me getting red checked cmon Well I was talking more on how smart people came to the conclusion rayn was town by what he did. I mean yes that too but I’m more focused on the problem at hand immediately
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On March 08 2024 01:49 CopCake wrote: Your best nightmare is free Is this a Finland thing
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On March 08 2024 04:20 CopCake wrote: Is it a bad move to whisper the cop? When you know he is alive?
Or why wasnt slam whispered?
These questions can help to answer “why wasnt slam roleblocked”
There are only two scenarios
- Mafia dont see slam as a treat and killed rayn/sandro
- Marv is mafia, his team blocked rayn and killed him
I think it’s the first one to me, but the second one doesn’t make sense, you don’t have to block rayn to kill him
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On March 08 2024 04:27 Alakaslam wrote: Also, more people than most think do not believe my claim. Lol like 80% of the game is voting me
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