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On January 16 2021 02:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
He explained why he has a dueling ability
And it makes sense
Also for the record dandel was not confirmed scum
Its a small detail
Problem here is my buddeh, you've given me no reason to rethink anything. The only time you have been present and put forth effort this game is when you are perceived to be under the potential chopping block. Your attempts to figure out this game, while at first glance appear earnest, unfortunately due to the number of confirmations leaves you with very few options, so it really just leaves you grasping at straws.
At some point maybe I CBA to look through your filter but I wonder how much you had to say about Vivax before this.
I tried to lynch Vivax d1 and people said that was bad.
Actually I think people have shot me down pretty much any time I tried to do anything.
I get that my efforts were somewhat meh early on, especially during day 2, but the reality of it is that everything I said about Vivax, ESPECIALLY TODAY, is true, and I think people are discounting that shockeyy never really gave anyone much of anything.
Your points about me not trying really aren't relevant since I was happy with shockeyy being lynched and I also voted GB, even though both votes wound up being bad.
Dandel is most definitely confirmed scum at this point and I don't see how you can say that's not really the case anymore, especially since Vivax dueled me way after the fact?
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I've been trying to fish for it but there's really no way anyone would ever own up to visiting yamato so
I tried to use my ability on him again last night, so either he was protected and I killed him, or I was roleblocked
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Oh wow, 20k posts. Wheeee
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On January 16 2021 02:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've been trying to fish for it but there's really no way anyone would ever own up to visiting yamato so
I tried to use my ability on him again last night, so either he was protected and I killed him, or I was roleblocked
Figured as much.
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I also think I'm pretty decent at finding scum in the people who attack me.
Especially since I'm such a frequent target most of the time - I think I have a lot of experience in this scenario so I think taking my word here might be worth more than you think.
I get the effort point but that really only seems to apply on day 2, where shockeyy was being lynched, but I was okay with that so what's the point of overdoing stuff when I already have what I want?
Plus, I have given you reasons as to why Vivax is mafia - you can't just say "you didn't try hard enough" when most of those reasons came at pretty much the only time he did anything, and I don't see anyone actually disputing the points that I raised.
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On January 16 2021 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I also think I'm pretty decent at finding scum in the people who attack me.
Especially since I'm such a frequent target most of the time - I think I have a lot of experience in this scenario so I think taking my word here might be worth more than you think.
I get the effort point but that really only seems to apply on day 2, where shockeyy was being lynched, but I was okay with that so what's the point of overdoing stuff when I already have what I want?
Plus, I have given you reasons as to why Vivax is mafia - you can't just say "you didn't try hard enough" when most of those reasons came at pretty much the only time he did anything, and I don't see anyone actually disputing the points that I raised.
The points are generally valid. But differentiating between 3p and mafia is hard.
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One point I don't think anyone mentioned is the nature of the argument that a vivax/dandel scum team doesn't make a ton of sense.
Them both claiming 3p together is pretty stupid imo
Also consider both roleclaims kade
Dandels was wildly convoluted and shifting all the time and nobody could make heads or tails of it most of the time
Hes literally been lying all game
Vivax claimed when it was of zero benefit to scum, was clear, concise, and detailed.
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On January 16 2021 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
One point I don't think anyone mentioned is the nature of the argument that a vivax/dandel scum team doesn't make a ton of sense.
Them both claiming 3p together is pretty stupid imo
Also consider both roleclaims kade
Dandels was wildly convoluted and shifting all the time and nobody could make heads or tails of it most of the time
Hes literally been lying all game
Vivax claimed when it was of zero benefit to scum, was clear, concise, and detailed.
That is true but Vivax also saved dandel from being lynched which is blatantly against towns interest.
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Also, if I am not mistaken Vivax is someone who always gets found out over time so preemptively claiming 3p might be a good way to avoid that... Idk
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On January 16 2021 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
One point I don't think anyone mentioned is the nature of the argument that a vivax/dandel scum team doesn't make a ton of sense.
Them both claiming 3p together is pretty stupid imo
Also consider both roleclaims kade
Dandels was wildly convoluted and shifting all the time and nobody could make heads or tails of it most of the time
Hes literally been lying all game
Vivax claimed when it was of zero benefit to scum, was clear, concise, and detailed. That is true but Vivax also saved dandel from being lynched which is blatantly against towns interest.
Technically he isn't town, and yes that is very true and very bad from a vivax who wins with town (possible he can win with scum..? Not as survivor right?)
But his motivation if he's truly unsure on dandel makes a modicum of sense? To be completely honest he really just shouldn't have used the ability and as I've said, it does reek of a gambit
The whole game likely hedges on this lynch
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On January 16 2021 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Also, if I am not mistaken Vivax is someone who always gets found out over time so preemptively claiming 3p might be a good way to avoid that... Idk
Sure but looking at his activity, I'd argue it got better over time, not worse as it tends to do
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On January 09 2021 02:44 Vivax wrote:
JAT laconic as always, but town.
Obi town.
If you didn't, vote Dandel please? We need some hilarity.
Like... blatantly associating with scum mate here? I don't see it
The glad usage is the only thing Vivax has done that's been bad for us this game. Regrettably it is quite bad indeed but I'm not ready to throw everything else in his filter out the window
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On January 10 2021 01:51 Vivax wrote:
First thing I did as mafia in my last game was try to push a possible third party claim.
And then this.
Mega wifom but why draw attention to it and link the frigging game?
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I mean I can see a world where 3P!Vivax sees 0 votes on Dandel, thinks town is going to waffle and lose the game, rereads the thread and forces a vote between him and his scummiest read, where he does not believe Slam's claim and Dandel is a town player with reverse KP
I don't see a world where M!Vivax decides to use his power before I'm dead and with 24+ hours to go to force a lynch between him and +1. The best use of this power is to do it when I'm dead, and slam it on himself and another person with a smaller amount of time to discuss to try and force a mislynch. M!Vivax, if he's smart, would have waited to confirm my nuke is actually real to see if I get removed from the game, then try to run down the clock with disorganized town to force the MYLO with a smaller amount of time left
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that's probably very WIFOM-y but still
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like in no way does a mafia team ever make a move before confirming whether my nuke is real or not
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On January 16 2021 02:29 ghostofconversion wrote:
I mean I can see a world where 3P!Vivax sees 0 votes on Dandel, thinks town is going to waffle and lose the game, rereads the thread and forces a vote between him and his scummiest read, where he does not believe Slam's claim and Dandel is a town player with reverse KP
I don't see a world where M!Vivax decides to use his power before I'm dead and with 24+ hours to go to force a lynch between him and +1. The best use of this power is to do it when I'm dead, and slam it on himself and another person with a smaller amount of time to discuss to try and force a mislynch. M!Vivax, if he's smart, would have waited to confirm my nuke is actually real to see if I get removed from the game, then try to run down the clock with disorganized town to force the MYLO with a smaller amount of time left
How is this about you in any way?
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On January 16 2021 02:31 ghostofconversion wrote:
like in no way does a mafia team ever make a move before confirming whether my nuke is real or not
Why would they ever assume your nuke is real?
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