On January 15 2021 13:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't necessarily believe Vivax's claim atm. He could be 3p, but he could also very well be mafia at this point and the more I think about it the less I want him dueling anyone.
I don't think it's Jat - long story short it's sort of based on meta but I think Jat is too direct to be scum.
I think the last one has to be Waveu - there's pretty much nobody else left after ES comes back town and we believe TT. I'm somehow not really surprised either - dude has been marinating me all game even despite hf/jat telling him his case was bad back on day 1.
Can you explain Slams role to me because according to your filter you've read it and think he's town and that you understand how his role works?
You also said at some point that you have been focusing on Dandel but really all you did was say that you thought he was scum because you believed Slam to be town.
/shrug I simply don't really think Slam is mafia - I think Slam is a pretty straightforward player after all the chupazis and hijoles and stuff, and simply claims what he has when he has it.
I simply don't really see a world where slam claims his red check when he doesn't need to as mafia.
Plus dandel lied about having KP, and only claimed his KP after he came back red. Most likely as a last resort.
@waveu - there you go with the marinating again. As I've said before, if you have no real points to make, don't bother you just look bad saying stuff like that.
But Slam wanted to lynch Dandel before he (Slam) claimed, even.
It just seems like your read on Slam lacks a healthy degree of skepticism and him being straightforward as a player is not a read nor a reason for one.
Sure, maybe. But do you really think that Slam goes for a 1 for 1 for no real gain there? If he has a second check there, in your mind, where else does he look if he can't get the support for the lynch he wants? Where else would you expect him to look and what else would you be expecting him to do?
I get that there's the concept that there should be skepticism, but what is there to be skeptical of in this case?
I feel like there's so much pointing towards dandel being mafia and a few things pointing to slam not being mafia, and I kinda feel like it's obvious at this point.
I think the only thing I can think of pointing to slam maybe being mafia is flipping a read on me for poor reasoning, but that can't be right from your perspective because you think I'm mafia for the same thing, so ???
What poor reasoning?
You were the first to react to Dandel claiming the election thingy. And you somehow knew he wasn't lying EVEN BEFORE HAPA SAID THE ABILITY HAD BEEN ACTIVATED.
You were so sure it was real that you inferred the only reason for a N0 was his role. But you didn't vote for it asap or accuse him for it because you were unsure what it would make you look like for everyone else, which is your only concern this game.
Exactly. Vivax’s work is too good to be scum now. 3p or town and he has claimed 3p so that is what he is
On January 15 2021 21:37 justanothertownie wrote: OK, so the ability is real at least. Almost tempted to. Go for Vivax because he prevented us from lynching dandel.
On January 16 2021 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean at least the tension is real here now We still almost certainly all agree to hit obi and win or lose based on that, and it'll be exciting
If he used it on dandel like a good boy we would have all afked until tomorrow
On January 16 2021 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean at least the tension is real here now We still almost certainly all agree to hit obi and win or lose based on that, and it'll be exciting
If he used it on dandel like a good boy we would have all afked until tomorrow
Uh. No? I'm not the one saving confirmed mafia here lmao.
On January 16 2021 00:34 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm really going to have to try very hard not to be paranoid here because it really does reek of a scum play based on TMI that we were wrong on obi
But Vivax actually playing the game and his early claim making a great deal of sense is grounding me
Also obi is just scum city so there's no way we can be wrong
On January 15 2021 20:00 Vivax wrote: But his latest post made me more confident, if anything. He needs to start spinning a narrative where I'm not third party to survive this. So will the other mafia.
Also really liked this post by Vivax
And I hate it. It has deep implications that he isn’t mafia and subconsciously makes you think believing him to be mafia is loony.
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
S U P
MAH NIGGA
Have I successfully been you? :D
I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat
Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol
On January 16 2021 00:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I do think scum just loses here if we lynch Vivax. A claimed 3p protecting confirmed scum on mylo is legitimately awful and is really just grounds for a lynch. I don't understand why he doesn't have like 10 million votes rn. Why 3p has a dueling ability, which is practically against their wincon, I do not know.
I think the real damning thing here is that Vivax is just so much smarter than this as town. I think he's actually one of the few people who can legitimately townread me while a large number of people really struggle with that and he just kind of wrote me off based on something that's actually really easily explained.
Even if he had some kind of dueling ability as 3p, I feel like he'd defer way more towards town rather than latching on to some gimmicky nonsense.
Like I want people to legitimately write out why they think I'm scum so I can talk to them about it. Even if I'm wrong on someone here I'm sure I can figure it out, but this whole constantly throw my name down and that makes me scum even though it's not backed by anything is just bad and needs to be rethought.
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.
I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.
That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.
Well, help me out then.
Sure. Just ftr, your poe list is narrowed down to me and TT because you think waveu is confirmed town, correct?
Why is Noone reading my posts? No, he is not confirmed. But it is likely that he saved Yamato. If you can offer me a plausible alternative for that I will put him in the poe pool.
Dude I’m literally writing your posts hehehhehehheheheh
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.
I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.
That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.
Well, help me out then.
Sure. Just ftr, your poe list is narrowed down to me and TT because you think waveu is confirmed town, correct?
Why is Noone reading my posts? No, he is not confirmed. But it is likely that he saved Yamato. If you can offer me a plausible alternative for that I will put him in the poe pool.
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.
I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.
That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.
Well, help me out then.
Sure. Just ftr, your poe list is narrowed down to me and TT because you think waveu is confirmed town, correct?
Why is Noone reading my posts? No, he is not confirmed. But it is likely that he saved Yamato. If you can offer me a plausible alternative for that I will put him in the poe pool.
WAIT WAIT WAIT THERE IS WIFOM
did he save Yama on purpose necessarily? Did he know he was saving yama? His role is to reverse actions right? Who says that isn’t a scum power?
There is WIFOM you see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI, the juices flow greatly this game as they have not in half a decade
On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
S U P
MAH NIGGA
Have I successfully been you? :D
I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat
Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol
So my role is to tunnel all the time? I think that's harsh. But OK. Maybe I am too deluded to see it.
It’s harsh mine was to martyr all the time lol. Look what I have done to poor ever