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Trfel
7015 Posts
So if Hapahauli is mafia, it's with raynpelikoneet or Tictock. If it's raynpelikoneet, they'd be going through a lot of theatrics when they could just get a mislynch and collect the win pretty easily. So I don't really believe that either. Leaves Hapahauli and Tictock. This is a much more believable combination. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Rayn, thank you finally for posting one coherent post of your suspicions on me. I've been waiting for that all day. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/b]Now Trfel and FF. You both know Hapahauli is extremely capable as town. Do you believe that town hapa: Doesnt want to be mayor just because he doent want responsibility and hecause he cannot then use his role, while trying to convince me into lynching grack for "i have historically very good accuracy of hitting mafia D1"? Why doesnt he think he will get shot N1 anyways? I want to use my role. Period. It's town KP. Reads jock mafia for his posting well enouugh to put him as very clear scumread D2 just to later on end up saying jock is mafia because he doesnt remember anything jock has posted? Bullshit and misleading. I state that I didn't remember what Jock said on #532. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=27#532 This inspires me to case him, which I post [i]after in #591: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=30#591 Briefly as it was, reads TT town simply just for reading rayn's filter. In MYLO??? Where the fuck did I do this? As claimed blue doesnt get shot or roleblocked N2 over shockeyy? It happened. Uses ate in "i understand you can want to lynch me for three blues being too much". Now thats simply bullshit and noone should vote hapa for that, why doesnt he say so? Because of ate, it's better if peoplerealise itthemselves. Still, why is he allowing people to scumread him for utterly shit reasons if he is town? It happened. The only "reason" that you and anyone else has to lynch me is for setup speculation and "because I wasn't shot." There are many reasons I'd be alive. For example: Lest I remind the thread that I was gone celebrating the holidays with my family for 3-4 days and wasn't engaged in an entire day of play. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 15:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I might also add that if my case on FF was so terrible why doesnt hapa say that before ff is confirmed town? It's almost like I was gone from the thread for the whole weekend and didn't have the chance to call you out on your idiocy live. Idunno. Do you read anything with context? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Uses ate in "i understand you can want to lynch me for three blues being too much". Now thats simply bullshit and noone should vote hapa for that, why doesnt he say so? Because of ate, it's better if peoplerealise itthemselves. Still, why is he allowing people to scumread him for utterly shit reasons if he is town? God even reading this shit makes me pissed off. Hapa can't control the reasons for which people scum read him, therefore he is scum. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Certainly not for easily disprovable shit that Rayn posts: Bullshit and misleading. I state that I didn't remember what Jock said on #532. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=27#532 This inspires me to case him, which I post [i]after in #591: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=30#591 | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 14:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: He doesnt outright say it but implies it over and over again by trfel's jail and in his discussion with TT. Like he says we lynch vivax and trfel jails him and if he is mafia it's gg. But it doesnt even come to it if vivax is NOT mafia. Again, flawed reasoning to make tou look elsewhere other than him. "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy". | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Sometimes, he has his head so much up his as that he reads more lines in his colon than he does in thread. It's probably town but it's so fucking bad. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote: "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy". Oh there... probably there. >  | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Thx. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Now you said earlier that you cannot be mafia with anyone in the game. Why can't you be mafia with: - me - vivax - TT ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 01 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote: "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy". I think i provided explanation to this one. Yes you were talking to TT and from TT's pov the game is solved then yeah, but after that you say "now we just need Trfel on board" and that's where you in my opinion imply that. Sure you're gonna say it's something else as either alignment but that's still what i think. This post here: On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote: @ TT The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax? Yes or no. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i provided explanation to this one. Yes you were talking to TT and from TT's pov the game is solved then yeah, but after that you say "now we just need Trfel on board" and that's where you in my opinion imply that. Sure you're gonna say it's something else as either alignment but that's still what i think. This post here: I am saying that the game is solved from TT's perspective you numbskull. It's not even that hard to infer. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hapa you are right about the Jock read and the TT thing in my case. I misread your TT post on phone and i took what FF said at face value and didnt look at it properly back then because i thought FF was mafia at the time and the whole "people who voted for jock" post was weak in my opinion. Now you said earlier that you cannot be mafia with anyone in the game. Why can't you be mafia with: - me - vivax - TT ? How good of an actor do you think I am as mafia? How do you perceive my scum play to be? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 01 2020 16:57 Trfel wrote: I find it very unlikely that Hapahauli would be mafia with Vivax. That doesn't line up with their play today (double bus with Vivax being lazy) and doesn't line up with Hapahauli's push on Vivax Day 2. So if Hapahauli is mafia, it's with raynpelikoneet or Tictock. If it's raynpelikoneet, they'd be going through a lot of theatrics when they could just get a mislynch and collect the win pretty easily. So I don't really believe that either. Leaves Hapahauli and Tictock. This is a much more believable combination. Yo uare right that's unlike, although i wouldnt count that out completely. I think there has been a game quite recently where Vivax refused to vote a townie over his scumbuddy in a 3-2 situation (that would have won the game for mafia) because he was afraid that someone changes votes and he i caught. I think he eventually won because he hammered a townie over mafia but still. I also dont believe Vivax is lying about the bussing thing here. If he is mafia he certainly could be bussing hapa here. I think i n the game he played well he bussed both of jock and gb pretty much all the game ,town was just too dumb to not lynch either of them in time to figure the game out "quickly enough" and he gained credit for that. So yeah, i would not count Vivax out entirely, although TT is saying some terrible shit here and defini9tely looks much worse at least to me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 01 2020 22:20 Hapahauli wrote: How good of an actor do you think I am as mafia? How do you perceive my scum play to be? What does that matter? In the mafiascum game i wasn't able to catch you because i let go of your scummy things when you bussed and made some good psots i would expect town!hapa to make. That's the latest news on that front for me. I havent seen you as mafia in ages before that. Now can you answer my question? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 01 2020 16:57 Trfel wrote: I find it very unlikely that Hapahauli would be mafia with Vivax. That doesn't line up with their play today (double bus with Vivax being lazy) and doesn't line up with Hapahauli's push on Vivax Day 2. Also this is another thing. That's the exact reason that would be plausible to start the day with. I also have an opinion on the D2but i am gonna let Hapa answer me first on why he cannot be mafia with anyone. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 01 2020 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: What does that matter? In the mafiascum game i wasn't able to catch you because i let go of your scummy things when you bussed and made some good psots i would expect town!hapa to make. That's the latest news on that front for me. I havent seen you as mafia in ages before that. Now can you answer my question? I think we have vastly different interpretations of what I am capable of as scum. In that "mafiascum game", how do you perceive I played? I recall making some long-form posts and largely lurking until I got lynched. Is that what you think I'm doing this game? My sense of your analysis of my play is that "if Hapa does something that I don't expect him to do, he is mafia". The problem is that I do stupid shit all the time. I put barely any care into my posts as town, since I'm often firing off responses on sight. So obviously I have "inconsistencies" or stupid shit in my filter all the time as town. And you damn well know this, because I've rolled town every game I've played this year, and you've tunneled me for extended periods of time in every damn game I've played this year despite my alignment. My perception of my scum play is that I would not be capable of acting "rage" or "tilt" in the way that I am interacting with you, TT, or Vivax. But that is obviously a self-serving argument, which makes your whole question incredibly stupid for making me make a self-serving argument. It is plainly obvious that I have been try-harding the fuck out of this game since the holiday weekend has ended. If you want to ignore that context, and if you want to believe that scum-Hapa is capable of that, then you are scum or you don't know me or anything about my playstyle at all. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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