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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 04:03 GMT
#1121
On December 01 2020 12:53 Hapahauli wrote:
FF or Rayn need to vote Vivax. Given that FF has expressed his sense of a Vivax/TT scumteam, I'm not worried about him coming back and consolidating.

Even if Rayn doesn't come back, TT unvoting Vivax to create a no-lynch (when he supposedly has no preference between a Hapa/Vivax lynch) is a straight scum-claim and should get him instantly policy lynched next day. Also remember that a no-lynch does not lose town the game here, which would make such a switch pretty stupid from a scum-TT perspective.
Right, I forgot about that. Thanks, that makes sense.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 04:04 GMT
#1122
I just arrived at work, i am going to explain why after i grt home
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 04:10 GMT
#1123
On December 01 2020 13:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just arrived at work, i am going to explain why after i grt home
Sounds good, I'll (probably) be there.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 04:19 GMT
#1124
Sigh.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 04:29 GMT
#1125
On December 01 2020 13:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh.

Let me start by saying this:

Hapa is saying we should definitely lynch into TT/Vivax because if we hit mafia there the game is practically solved.

This is obviously smart from mafia perspective because he then isnt lynched and town can still make the wrong decision with TT/Vivax.

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 04:30 GMT
#1126
The argument is just an excuse to look at people who are not hapa.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 04:40 GMT
#1127
Your argument is literally that I am scummy because defending myself and pushing my reads is scummy.

Good night.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 04:44 GMT
#1128
No i am saying your reasoning to try to make people look elsewhere is flawed and town player should know that, ergo not use that as its simply nothing but an excuse. Town players dont use, at least good town players, bs reasoning to do something, anything.

Another pointis that the lasttimei was around hapa disnt want to engage rapid fire questioning, yet when i wasnt around he was totally okay with it, hell he evend asked for it..
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 04:51 GMT
#1129
Fuck off. I played your rapid fire questioning bullshit last night. It got me nowhere.

I’m not going to field more insane questions from you when it’s midnight.

If you are town, you’ve played like shit all game. You’ve been convinced that Slam and FF were mafia for stupid reasons, and you still have the arrogance to try and push the same shit on me now.

Maybe I’ll have more patience tomorrow morning. Who knows. I don’t know what it is about your play recently, but the way you play and interact puts me on tilt so fucking badly no matter how much I try to be patient and entertain your shit.

I hope you’re mafia. I really do. But I don’t think you are and it pisses me off.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:18 GMT
#1130
And people call me an asshole, right..

Speaking of reasoning FF pointed out a decent point about your reasoning on Jock, and apparently at least brieflyyou were reading TT own just because he read my filter???? Ehich btw isnt a clusterfuck. Gaining trust from a townie? Making a read on scumbuddy? I dont know and i dont really have to know today.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 05:23 GMT
#1131
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 13:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh.

Let me start by saying this:

Hapa is saying we should definitely lynch into TT/Vivax because if we hit mafia there the game is practically solved.

This is obviously smart from mafia perspective because he then isnt lynched and town can still make the wrong decision with TT/Vivax.

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?
Did Hapahauli ever say this? I thought he was advocating lynching Tictock or Vivax because he thinks they are mafia and he is town (presumably) so that would be a superior lynch?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 05:26 GMT
#1132
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?


Mechanically it would mean one of You or Me is mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:29 GMT
#1133
On December 01 2020 14:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?


Mechanically it would mean one of You or Me is mafia.

Yeah so hows the game solved?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:34 GMT
#1134
On December 01 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 01 2020 13:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh.

Let me start by saying this:

Hapa is saying we should definitely lynch into TT/Vivax because if we hit mafia there the game is practically solved.

This is obviously smart from mafia perspective because he then isnt lynched and town can still make the wrong decision with TT/Vivax.

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?
Did Hapahauli ever say this? I thought he was advocating lynching Tictock or Vivax because he thinks they are mafia and he is town (presumably) so that would be a superior lynch?

He doesnt outright say it but implies it over and over again by trfel's jail and in his discussion with TT. Like he says we lynch vivax and trfel jails him and if he is mafia it's gg. But it doesnt even come to it if vivax is NOT mafia. Again, flawed reasoning to make tou look elsewhere other than him.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 05:34 GMT
#1135
On November 30 2020 10:28 Tictock wrote:
Like I know you are down to a pool of Rayn/Vivax/Myself, assuming I read ok

So I suppose I would have to accept a Rayn/Vivax world


Humm, is this so crazy?

It suppose it could explain some things.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 05:35 GMT
#1136
On December 01 2020 14:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 14:26 Tictock wrote:
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?


Mechanically it would mean one of You or Me is mafia.

Yeah so hows the game solved?


I mean from my PoV...
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:39 GMT
#1137
On December 01 2020 14:35 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 14:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 01 2020 14:26 Tictock wrote:
On December 01 2020 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

From town perspective though; Lets say we lynch Vivax and he flips mafia. Trfel jails Hapa (or whoever) and the NK goes through. How is the game solved?


Mechanically it would mean one of You or Me is mafia.

Yeah so hows the game solved?


I mean from my PoV...

Who the hell cares about your pov or from anyone else's pov other than trfel/ff??? Ultimately they are going to make decision.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 05:41 GMT
#1138
Lynching Vivax is actually always the play here.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:42 GMT
#1139
On December 01 2020 14:34 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 10:28 Tictock wrote:
Like I know you are down to a pool of Rayn/Vivax/Myself, assuming I read ok

So I suppose I would have to accept a Rayn/Vivax world


Humm, is this so crazy?

It suppose it could explain some things.

True colors coming out?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 05:42 GMT
#1140
Ajahaha
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