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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 01 2020 00:19 GMT
#1101
On December 01 2020 09:05 Tictock wrote:
Are Mafia able to hold their KP?

I did not see this in the OP. Assuming they have to shoot then if we lynch mafia Trfel has a chance to prevent KP and confirm mafia.

I doubt I will move off Hapa/Vivax here, Vivax is the "safe" lynch since everyone seems to agree he should be mafia.

I won't vote anyone else.


mafia are not required to fire
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 00:21 GMT
#1102
On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote:
@ TT

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Let's make a deal TT.

I think Vivax is mafia. You think Vivax is mafia.

Let's kill Vivax. After that, since we both think that Trfel is the JK, he can simply block me tomorrow and "confirm me as mafia". Sounds good?

Game solved and over from your perspective. No need to argue or do anything.


The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax?

Yes or no.


Still waiting.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 00:23 GMT
#1103
I am offering the "mafia team" from your perspective on a silver platter.

Now put up or shut up. You going with this plan or not?

If Trfel JK's me tomorrow and there is no mafia night kill, town should policy lynch me period.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 00:29 GMT
#1104
On December 01 2020 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:
You haven't thought anything too deeply through, have you?


Yes and No

I have clearly been catching up. I probably should have condensed my posts and not made a bunch of while reading reaction posts.

Since talk between us is getting antagonistic I am going to stop directly responding. We seem to have resigned to live in world's where the other is mafia.

I think I have made my overall position clear as well as tried to explain why I am thinking how I am.
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 00:32 GMT
#1105
On December 01 2020 09:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote:
@ TT

On December 01 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Let's make a deal TT.

I think Vivax is mafia. You think Vivax is mafia.

Let's kill Vivax. After that, since we both think that Trfel is the JK, he can simply block me tomorrow and "confirm me as mafia". Sounds good?

Game solved and over from your perspective. No need to argue or do anything.


The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax?

Yes or no.


Still waiting.


This is the only thing I am interested in you answering.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 00:41 GMT
#1106
I am considering switching to Vivax. No real reason not to I just feel uneasy doing so being pressured by a mafia read?

Like does me moving a vote really prove that much?

I am gunna sit on my hands in response to pressure right now till I make up my mind.
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 00:42 GMT
#1107
For those in the peanut gallery, this whole line of questioning does have a point. Despite how "confident" I may portray my reads, I always look to verify and cross-check them, especially in a MYLO/LYLO situation.

His refusal to engage the "plan" shows that he's not truly indifferent to the Hapa/Vivax lynch like he claims.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 01 2020 01:47 GMT
#1108
basically if I believe hapa is town which honestly I do from all this posting and I don't believe trfel is fake JK then it has to be vivax tt and that's kinda nice so I could switch to vivax
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 01 2020 01:48 GMT
#1109
that's also assuming rayn is town which idk why
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 02:00 GMT
#1110
Mafia can no shoot so we cannot use JK to confirm someone as mafia.

I don't see a problem with JK confirming someone as town though if a kill does go through.
I can take that responsibility.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 02:00 GMT
#1111
Yeah, I wish I had a better reason to say raynpelikoneet was town. As in, I wish he was a role or something so it was confirmed. I am reading him town as well as I can read him, but there's always the chance he's just playing a ridiculous game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 02:01 GMT
#1112
On December 01 2020 11:00 Tictock wrote:
Mafia can no shoot so we cannot use JK to confirm someone as mafia.

I don't see a problem with JK confirming someone as town though if a kill does go through.
This is technically correct, but as Hapahauli was saying, if mafia chooses to no-kill, then town gains an extra mislynch. So it's the same result in the end.

Unless you're saying mafia is allowed to store up their shots and use them all at once, but that's a really stupid mechanic that I've never actually seen in a game.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-01 02:02:57
December 01 2020 02:02 GMT
#1113
Another Vote Count!

Tictock (1): Fecalfeast
Raynpelikoneet (0):
Fecalfeast (0):
Vivax (3): Hapahauli, Trfel, Tictock, Tictock, Tictock, Tictock, Tictock
Hapahauli (2): Trfel, Raynpelikoneet, Raynpelikoneet, Tictock, Fecalfeast, Vivax, Trfel, Tictock, Tictock, Tictock, Tictock
Trfel (0):
No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:


Currently, No One is set to be lynched!

Day 3 ends in on Tuesday, Dec 01 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 02:13 GMT
#1114
On December 01 2020 11:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2020 11:00 Tictock wrote:
Mafia can no shoot so we cannot use JK to confirm someone as mafia.

I don't see a problem with JK confirming someone as town though if a kill does go through.
This is technically correct, but as Hapahauli was saying, if mafia chooses to no-kill, then town gains an extra mislynch. So it's the same result in the end.

Unless you're saying mafia is allowed to store up their shots and use them all at once, but that's a really stupid mechanic that I've never actually seen in a game.


Hapa was still talking about confirming mafia at the top of the page.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 01 2020 02:14 GMT
#1115
Props to you Greymist, I refrained from making separate posts
I can take that responsibility.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 01 2020 02:16 GMT
#1116
On December 01 2020 11:14 Tictock wrote:
Props to you Greymist, I refrained from making separate posts


+10 GreYMisT Points
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 03:47 GMT
#1117
Fecalfeast?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2020 03:48 GMT
#1118
Actually... it's majority lynch. Ideally we would have five votes on the same target or mafia could force a no-lynch...

Hopefully raynpelikoneet comes back? If not the right play is to switch back to Hapahauli, right?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 03:53 GMT
#1119
FF or Rayn need to vote Vivax. Given that FF has expressed his sense of a Vivax/TT scumteam, I'm not worried about him coming back and consolidating.

Even if Rayn doesn't come back, TT unvoting Vivax to create a no-lynch (when he supposedly has no preference between a Hapa/Vivax lynch) is a straight scum-claim and should get him instantly policy lynched next day. Also remember that a no-lynch does not lose town the game here, which would make such a switch pretty stupid from a scum-TT perspective.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 01 2020 04:03 GMT
#1120
Of course i am coming back. Just tired from the weekend. We should still lynch Hapa.
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