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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2020 07:41 GMT
#581
On November 26 2020 15:08 Trfel wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on who you think is mafia?

Oh

Yeah

[img]https://i.imgur.com/YFNiIB0.png


So I was on Jockmcplop and seems now Vivax most recently.

I had suspected you and Hapa but I have a hard time seeing Townmelds from scum collusion.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2020 07:41 GMT
#582
On November 26 2020 16:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 15:08 Trfel wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on who you think is mafia?

Oh

Yeah

[image loading]


So I was on Jockmcplop and seems now Vivax most recently.

I had suspected you and Hapa but I have a hard time seeing Townmelds from scum collusion.

Fixed the image
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2020 07:44 GMT
#583
So it’s so late that all tact has flown out the window. I must sleep. Until my child calls once more.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 26 2020 07:51 GMT
#584
On November 26 2020 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
that is to say, I think jock is my strongest mafia read right now based on reading the thread in all mode and reading 3 filters


You haven’t mentioned me, yet I was apparently one of your biggest scum reads, did that change?
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 26 2020 07:53 GMT
#585
On November 26 2020 14:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2020 12:41 Trfel wrote:
Honestly a bit down IRL still, but recovering. If anyone wants to talk about anything I am happy to!

What happened?
Nothing in particular, just I've been dealing with a heavy case of clinical depression for a few years now, unfortunately.


Let me know man, and we can talk outside the thread. I went through some real bad depression for a couple years, I know I can’t solve it, but I can be some kind of support as needed.
Life?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 26 2020 08:14 GMT
#586
Thanks guys, appreciate it. I'm not sure how treatable my depression is, I'm on medication for it, but I'm just not sure how much that helps, unfortunately.

@Alakaslam, can I ask why you are suspecting Vivax now? Is it based on what Hapahauli said, or other reasons?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 26 2020 14:54 GMT
#587
On November 26 2020 16:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
that is to say, I think jock is my strongest mafia read right now based on reading the thread in all mode and reading 3 filters


You haven’t mentioned me, yet I was apparently one of your biggest scum reads, did that change?

I'm wiping my slate clean I'll let you know when I've done your filter
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 26 2020 14:55 GMT
#588
Throwing my hat in the 'talk if you need to I'm going through something similar' ring too
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2020 17:50 GMT
#589
On November 26 2020 17:14 Trfel wrote:
Thanks guys, appreciate it. I'm not sure how treatable my depression is, I'm on medication for it, but I'm just not sure how much that helps, unfortunately.

@Alakaslam, can I ask why you are suspecting Vivax now? Is it based on what Hapahauli said, or other reasons?

It is based on Hapa. I’m interested to see a Vivax response (which may have already happened. I’ll get there.)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2020 17:50 GMT
#590
Oh lawdy nothing has happened lol.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 26 2020 19:28 GMT
#591
Pretty sure these guys are town:
Alakaslam - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=26#512 for details. Rayn is just reading way too much into some little irrelevant thing with his posts.
Trfel - Gives a shit. Observant. Super active around the deadline.
Tictock - Behavior is flippant and aggressive despite his inactivity. Doesn't seem to try to want to blend in at all.

Not sure what these guys are:
Raynpelikoneet - I understand why his playstyle is different. My sense is that he's not pushing the game forward in a way that I would expect him to, even taking into account his desire "not to get annoyed by random things." Could be mafia, or could be me just being unfair.
ShoCkeyy - Not enough information in filter. Relative inactivity/passivity is not alignment indicative for him.
Fecalfeast - Similar to Shockey. Has a bit more of an attitude, but has generally been useless. Need to meta him later if I am alive.

I think these guys are mafia:
Jockmcplop - The majority of his play has been fixated on Slam's mayoral campaign, even though he fully admits he "never considered Slam a scumread". Furthermore, his "scumread" in Trfel is almost entirely based on that campaign. I generally can't remember anything that he did this game, which is indicative of posting substanceless things. A review of his filter shows generally substanceless things. For example this is the only post of any substance he made around the run-up to the mayoral vote deadline, and it's basically just a summary post with his preference for mayor. No scum-reads, no desire to get any particular target lynched, etc.

On November 26 2020 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
slam:
Will do what town decides

grack:
TT

TT:

FeFe

Rayn:
FF or TT

Fefe:
TT maybe Shockeyy

Trfel:
me, shockeyy, FF, TT, Grack

We need to get this down to 2 candidates who are trusted by town.

Personally I would have one of grack/rayn as mayor and maybe slam as pardoner.
I will probably revote grack just because I think TT has been super lazy just picking something Fefe said on the first page and leaving that as his scumread for the whole time.

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 01:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)

I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.

Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected.


What's your take on Jock?


His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam.


Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't.


Vivax - Stronger of the two reads. I have said what I have needed to say:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=26#511
On November 26 2020 07:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm okay. We know Grack was not mafia. We also know that Vivax was trying to get the lynch OFF grack. The most likely result will be lynching FF, do you agree? Why does Vivax care? Or well, try to look like he cares when he doesnt have to?


I feel that you are overly-fixated on the various "effects" of the lynch.

Mafia do things all the time that have no specific purpose. For example, a very "common" mafia play is to scream like bloody murder against the lynch of one townie, only to direct the lynch towards another townie. This allows mafia to look like they are contributing and potentially tell the town "I told you so" if the person that they are defending flips town.

Mafia do these things for the larger purpose of "blending in". "Act like you are contributing without actually contributing".

As for Vivax's actions here, it is more appropriate to consider the utility of what he is doing, especially since he is an experienced and capable town player. Here, his actions and posting are functionally useless, and his attempt to spread suspicion on several targets only hampers town's ability to consolidate on a lynch.

Additionally, Vivax doesn't seem to have any reason to believe that Grack is town. Why is he hard-defending him to that degree? If Grack is null, he basically has the same chance of flipping mafia that any rando lurker lynch would have.


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 26 2020 20:00 GMT
#592
Day 2

[image loading]


The next morning I awoke in my office, memories foggy. The kind of fog that gets ships lost in the night. I don’t remember the face of the guy that jumped me, all I know is that they didn’t want me getting too close to the truth. Luckily, that warning shot from Lucy scared the bastard. I have to be more careful in the future or else I risk more than just a scare and a headache.

Too bad I’m a sucker for punishment.

I had just lifted my medicinal glass of bourbon to my forehead when I heard a faint knock at my door. Damn, forgot to put the “closed” sign out this morning.


“Come in…” I grunted, feeling every bit of exhaustion creaking out of my throat.

Then she walked in. Dressed in red, she had curves like a mountain road and legs longer than route 66.

I quickly stashed my drink and ran a hand through my hair. Damnit where is my hat?!


“Sorry to bother you so early, I was told you were investigating these Murders and thought I had some information that might help, you see my husband, my late husband Alakaslam, was murdered recently.

Oh where are my manners? I am Iamperfection, pleasure to meet you.”

“The pleasure is all mine.” I always get suckered in by these dames, I can’t help it..

“How can I help you Iamperfection? You mentioned the murders?”

“Oh yes, I believe my husband was involved in something most nefarious. It doesn't really surprise me. He was always quite withholding. I believe it takes a real man to be loyal to the truth, don’t you?

I coughed
“Well pull up a chair and lets get down to business, shall we?”




Alakaslam, the Parity Cop was killed!

+ Show Spoiler +

Alakaslam requested that if he died I flip him as Inspector Zenigata. that request is denied.





It is now Day 2! With 8 Alive it takes 5 to Lynch. Voting is mandatory, but you may vote for a no-lynch. The day ends in on Saturday, Nov 28 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 26 2020 20:02 GMT
#593
##Vote Vivax
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 26 2020 20:03 GMT
#594
I was roleblocked.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 26 2020 20:48 GMT
#595
Hapa do you think it's better, regardless of a player, that the mayor is a blue role or vanilla?
table for two on a tv tray
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 26 2020 21:03 GMT
#596
On November 27 2020 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa do you think it's better, regardless of a player, that the mayor is a blue role or vanilla?

I have an opinion
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 26 2020 21:03 GMT
#597
You can have an opinion as well.
table for two on a tv tray
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 26 2020 21:06 GMT
#598
I think it's better for you to be a blue role because of the bodyguard mechanic. Especially if the bodyguard is still alive you would have much more wiggle room to claim in a less optimal situation.

Furthermore as mayor you're a prime target for a tinfoil hat attack that says we voted a scum mayor leaving you even more room to claim without the expectation of death in the night
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 26 2020 21:08 GMT
#599
I am thinking if i can actually solve the game right now.
table for two on a tv tray
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 26 2020 21:10 GMT
#600
Re the slam kill:


If he softed cop or someone is a master blue hunter this doesn't really work but...

Slam is someone most people find hard to read and that most people can easily scumread as town. This makes him a less than ideal kill if scum is operating beyond the surface level of "pretty much everyone reads slam town" which leads me to want to look in the WIFOM direction and figure out who, if anyone, was the odd one out scumreading slam as the kill could be cover for that someone to not have to work their way out while also providing the classic cover "why would I kill my own scumread at night if I'm trying to ML"
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