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On November 26 2020 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 08:14 Alakaslam wrote:On November 26 2020 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: right on what? My point. Literally everything. Stop getting hung up on stupid timings of posts. You are literally assuming a false thing, so I can’t answer you. I obviously read the flip first. I didn’t expect 3p this game since it was full size. You asked a question; that was more important than my reactive remarks about the flip. Grack did not play like scum. Well, I wasn’t exactly wrong, but Hapa was also right as Grack was still anti town. So you think Hapa is town and not that Hapa and Trfel are mafia anymore? Right. I don’t think Hapa would be so spot on and Trfel is making real cases, of the type not seen since, I don’t know, Since Darth Vader felt the presence of Obi Wan. Like a long time ago.
I’m back to actually agreeing with Trfel’s case. Here are my notes from my all filter dive when I thought I had a decent shot at mayoral election:
Whole foods Red lettuce 3 heads Pork belly 3 chunks (from butcher) leaner chunk IF NOT; pork Loin 3 cloves whole garlic
Woori market Jin Ramen mild 5 pack ($4.99) Shin Ramen same The ginger
Stumptown 2 decaf hot latte
ShoCkeyy wants Grack dead Jock is unsure Grack wants TT dead TT wants FF dead Rayn wants FF dead FF wants TT dead Vivax maybe Jock? Hapa wants Grack or Shokeyy Trfel wants jock or rayn
Yes I put it with my shopping list.
Anyway, I literally couldn’t gather who Jock or Vivax suspected, but Vivax at least had a tendency.
Also ShoCkeyy looks good from this analysis.
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On November 26 2020 08:17 Trfel wrote: In other news, I'm starting to think less and less that raynpelikoneet is mafia. And I'm wondering more about Fecalfeast. Though I'm not sure if Fecalfeast would be quite this useless as mafia? Probably a terrible metric.
Not really confident at all on who else is mafia (regardless of if I am right or not on Jockmcplop), unfortunately.
Also, I won't be around for the deadline tomorrow, since it's a night deadline that should be fine though. How about I solve that for you: Rayn is not mafia
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Do you know who else is mafia then? Other than Jockmcplop, if I am reading your post correctly. No worries if not, just curious.
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How is Hapa "spot on" to be exact? If Hapa is mafia all he knows as a fact is that Grackaroni is not mafia. I tend to think third parties play moreso as if they were town than not. Because they can genuinely scumhunt. I dont think anyone deserves ANY credit for Grack flipping 3p because as mafia it doesnt really make a difference for you if they are 3p or town, play-wise.
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you must be mafia because you drink decaf btw...
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On November 26 2020 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is Hapa "spot on" to be exact? If Hapa is mafia all he knows as a fact is that Grackaroni is not mafia. I tend to think third parties play moreso as if they were town than not. Because they can genuinely scumhunt. I dont think anyone deserves ANY credit for Grack flipping 3p because as mafia it doesnt really make a difference for you if they are 3p or town, play-wise. Basically Grack flipping the worst fucking role for the town ever was just a coincidence. Also how can you be right and Hapa be right at the same time if you are both same alignment and thought completely opposite things?!?!?!?
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I wasn’t right about mafia but I was onto something. I’ll do some more analysis at this moment. I’m waiting on my cat to be vaccinated, and checked on. He’s probably hating life.
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My only thought is FF, he comes, throws shade on me, and leaves. Doesn’t have much interest to the game. Sadly screams more like I’m going to be a shitty town and get carried hopefully more than mafia. But I can be wrong, could just be trying to play the role since I think we have a good amount of activity here from town I feel.
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Will you trade your cat for me? For my bodyguard? I'd love a cat.
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On November 26 2020 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Will you trade your cat for me? For my bodyguard? I'd love a cat.
He would still be a great body guard, he’s 20 pound boy, but looks like he can be a bob cat xD
One time outside of my house, a small dog ran up to me and my cat literally attacked the small dog off of me. The dog shit itself and ran. :|
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On November 26 2020 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: you must be mafia because you drink decaf btw... That was for my wife and mother in law. I prefer black, didn’t you see me getting that in AZ?
Or maybe I got the lemonade.
Anyway, hapa was right 3 times in a row was my angle. Right that Grack was not town, right that I was aware of his flip prior to posting, and right that it’s not indicative for me.
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On November 26 2020 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is Hapa "spot on" to be exact? If Hapa is mafia all he knows as a fact is that Grackaroni is not mafia. I tend to think third parties play moreso as if they were town than not. Because they can genuinely scumhunt. I dont think anyone deserves ANY credit for Grack flipping 3p because as mafia it doesnt really make a difference for you if they are 3p or town, play-wise. Basically Grack flipping the worst fucking role for the town ever was just a coincidence. Also how can you be right and Hapa be right at the same time if you are both same alignment and thought completely opposite things?!?!?!? I am right about myself.
I am right that I had checked the lynch.
I never claimed to be right about grack’s alignment post flip.
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eh.. i dont think you understand my point
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On November 26 2020 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: eh.. i dont think you understand my point Or you aren’t allowing for the truth so I literally cannot give you an adequate answer?
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I am gonna try to explain before i go to bed.
My point is this: Prior to Grackaroni's flip you seemed to think that Hapa and Trfel are mafia because they are sitting in a corner trying to push something. After Grackaroni flips you seem to have changed your opinion on that (at least) Hapa isn't mafia for that anymore. That doesn't make much sense to me because if we assume Hapa is mafia then he doesn't know if Grackaroni is town or 3p, he only knows that Grackaroni is not mafia. I dont understand why Grackaroni flipping NOT mafia would give any town credit to Hapa (or anyone else in itself)? Because it does not make any sense.
As to my original argument i still don't see any reason to change my view on that i think it is plausible you knew Grackaroni is not mafia before the flip. That's because of how you reacted to other people when i changed my lynch preference, and how you did NOT react to TT's posting at the time. It looks very bad to me tbh. Also coupled with the fact that -- where this argument went to -- you are simultaneously... idk like ... uhh.. trying to give Hapa credit for pointing out grack as not town and then also saying you were right on that grack was not mafia. It feels really weird for me, if you really think hapa can somehow discern 3p from town D1 then why should YOU be happy for being "right"? Shouldnt you be able to do that aswell if you were to get any credit?
It seems like you are treating one and only one -- same situation one way for one person and the other way for another person.
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In simple words, if you think hapa should have any credit for figuring out a 3p, why should you have any credit for not doing so? Right now you are saying both of you should, because grack was not town nor mafia lol..
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On November 26 2020 08:14 Alakaslam wrote: Grack did not play like scum. Well, I wasn’t exactly wrong, but Hapa was also right as Grack was still anti town. This, i dont get this. At all.
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On November 26 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna try to explain before i go to bed.
My point is this: Prior to Grackaroni's flip you seemed to think that Hapa and Trfel are mafia because they are sitting in a corner trying to push something. After Grackaroni flips you seem to have changed your opinion on that (at least) Hapa isn't mafia for that anymore. That doesn't make much sense to me because if we assume Hapa is mafia then he doesn't know if Grackaroni is town or 3p, he only knows that Grackaroni is not mafia. I dont understand why Grackaroni flipping NOT mafia would give any town credit to Hapa (or anyone else in itself)? Because it does not make any sense.
As to my original argument i still don't see any reason to change my view on that i think it is plausible you knew Grackaroni is not mafia before the flip. That's because of how you reacted to other people when i changed my lynch preference, and how you did NOT react to TT's posting at the time. It looks very bad to me tbh. Also coupled with the fact that -- where this argument went to -- you are simultaneously... idk like ... uhh.. trying to give Hapa credit for pointing out grack as not town and then also saying you were right on that grack was not mafia. It feels really weird for me, if you really think hapa can somehow discern 3p from town D1 then why should YOU be happy for being "right"? Shouldnt you be able to do that aswell if you were to get any credit?
It seems like you are treating one and only one -- same situation one way for one person and the other way for another person. No.
I’m not celebrating, but I am relieved I wasn’t completely wrong.
I think there are four types of play in mafia, at least in this setup, and you are being very American and dividing it into two.
If you consider red, blue, green, and black, then recognizing that black is not green or blue is a skill. A less good skill is seeing that black is not red, and thinking red is green is really bad because they are opposites.
Blue is different entirely.
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On November 26 2020 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: In simple words, if you think hapa should have any credit for figuring out a 3p, why should you have any credit for not doing so? Right now you are saying both of you should, because grack was not town nor mafia lol.. When did I ask for credit?
I explained to your hounding that I was expressing relief in NOT BEING QUITE AS WRONG AS I THOUGHT, not celebrating being somehow right!
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I know you didnt ask for credit, i just subtly read it as so, because of "i was not quite wrong". In my world you saying "i was not quite wrong" and "hapa was right", one of the things is wrong. If you dont get why i think this, maybe someone who speaks better english and is smart can explain it in english...
Now i have to go to bed, so good night.
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