[N]A Mostly Normal Game of Mafia - Page 61

On December 01 2020 19:44 Tictock wrote:
How in the hell do you think I am mafia with Hapa after today?

Rayn/Hapa makes no sense either with Rayn literally not wanting to lynch anyone by Hapa all day.

On December 01 2020 00:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On TicTock:

The way that TicTock approaches his Vivax read is very scummy. I think it is scummy regardless of Vivax's alignment, but I think it is especially so if Vivax is mafia.

The first time that TicTock talks about Vivax is near the end of D1:


Clearly, he has some level of suspicion towards Vivax.



He immediately follows this up by "changing his mind" on the Vivax read after "reading the thread". What I find curious and scummy about this post is that despite calling Vivax town, he articulates in the same breath a fantastic reason for why Vivax may be mafia regarding Vivax's relative inactivity/passivity.

I will also note that there's no "substance" behind his Vivax read. Despite this, he continues attacking cases against vivax:




...he's happy to attack people's reads against Vivax, but again, no substance or rationale to believe that he's town beyond "these cases are bad".



He again re-iterates his read on being "confident" regarding Vivax.

But again, where is the substance? [uWhy does he read Vivax as mafia? The only serious reading of his filter (see post #2 above) suggests good reasons for Vivax being mafia. Otherwise, TT spends time attacking reasons for why Vivax is mafia rather than providing substance.

On December 01 2020 00:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On Rayn:

After reading through, I think he's very town.

The things that strike out to me are:
1) His willingnness to go down paranoid "rabbit holes" (reads on FF, Slam, etc.)
2) His de-escalation tactics this game, both in the very beginning of the game:



... and in around my botched roleblock thing:



I do not at all associate scum Rayn with keeping a discussion focused, especially in the 2nd example.

On November 26 2020 03:48 Hapahauli wrote:
To be clear, I do not trust Rayn enough for him to be Mayor.

His new playstyle has a plausible explanation. Don't get me wrong. But I have doubt, and I do not want any doubt about the town mayor. As for my doubt: I can understand how there is less "rage" in his game, and that is not an inherently mafia-oriented thing. But he is not pushing the game forward in the way I would expect him to as town. Rayn is hyper paranoid, stubborn, and a bit of a "steamroller" in his typical town games. His mafia games have some of those traits, but in my experience, they are more toned down.

On December 01 2020 14:48 Tictock wrote:


I am not getting into that, just saying Vivax should be the lynch here.

On December 01 2020 19:44 Tictock wrote:
How in the hell do you think I am mafia with Hapa after today? Rayn/Hapa makes no sense either with Rayn literally not wanting to lynch anyone by Hapa all day.

On December 01 2020 10:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
basically if I believe hapa is town which honestly I do from all this posting and I don't believe trfel is fake JK then it has to be vivax tt and that's kinda nice so I could switch to vivax