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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 14:51 GMT
#1551
I trust horse-man and he has my vote.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 14:52 GMT
#1552
A true outsider to TL Mafia politics.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 18:26 GMT
#1652
Dear Rayn,

I love you, but you are bad. Bad at this game.

Please ever so kindly extricate your head outside of your asshole so I do not have to deal with your paranoid delusions.

Sincerely,
Hapa
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 19:49 GMT
#1705
Dear Rayn,

Everyone takes different joys from a game of mafia. Personally, I get my sole satisfaction from this game from lynching correctly, and nothing else in this game comes close. From my conversations with you, you seem to, rather admirably, enjoy the arguments, the drama, and the "puzzle" of the thread. Maybe there is some grand conspiracy in this game. Maybe Acro was part of a larger scheme. Maybe I am the leader of a sleeper cell slowly finding my compatriots. Maybe I have some nefarious 3p mechanic that is slowly converting townies to my cause and turning into my Army of horse minions. I already got Yamato clearly. Who's next?

But unfortunately, I either know or doubt most of that to be true. Why? Because this is a boring game.

This is a boring game where a mafia player got lynched on Day 1.

There was zero resistance to his lynch on a day with hidden ballots.

There was zero resistance to his lynch on a day where town was thrown into chaos with parallel worlds.

This is not because of some grand conspiracy. This is because mafia is likely playing inactively and badly.

If you want to look down rabbit holes, then so be it. You find it fun, so part of you no doubt wants to believe the game isn't boring and explore those holes.

But it's not fun for me. It shits up the thread, makes it harder for me to read, and harder for me to find mafia. And I won't play that game with you, even if I get lynched for it.

Warmest Regards,
Hapa
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 20:01 GMT
#1710
Do you think Yamato is mafia?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 20:04 GMT
#1715
Among the mayoral candidates, do you have any town reads?

Or do you have any town reads in general for that matter?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 20:04 GMT
#1716
All of this @ Shockeyy
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 20:05 GMT
#1718
On November 04 2020 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Among the mayoral candidates, do you have any town reads?

Or do you have any town reads in general for that matter?


If you read, I'd only vote for Yamato out of the rest of you.


So if you trust Yamato, why would you express an interest in not voting for any mayoral candidate?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 03 2020 23:21 GMT
#1892
Can someone tell me if anything of value was accomplished in the last 20 pages of filter?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:27 GMT
#2002
Oh that’s cool.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:33 GMT
#2004
Slam and Grack die and we win. Maybe we lynch Rayn in there just for fun.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:42 GMT
#2005
Wow TT’s role could have been so powerful if used in conjunction with Acro’s.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 13:03 GMT
#2007
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 13:04 GMT
#2008
I think we just lynch Grack.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 13:48 GMT
#2024
On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:
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On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote:
The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.

Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.


This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 15:41 GMT
#2052
Just in a game design sense, I cannot see a mafia-aligned role that has a handicap that does not allow him to speak coherently in thread.

Also, Yamato has definitely been reading the thread carefully all game and not using his "transformation" as a handicap to his effort at all.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 15:49 GMT
#2054
Re: Slam

On November 04 2020 22:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?


I really cannot see Slam mafia based on TT role PM.

Welcome to Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2! You are the Aperture Science Blind Testing Initiative. You are a new testing chamber which basically just makes it hard to see anything. Once per game, at any time, you may PM the host to turn off the lights. For the next cycle, all flips will be revealed one phase later than normal. For example, if this power is used during night 1, any players killed that night will be flipped at the end of Day 2, and any players lynched that day will be flipped at the end of Night 2.

In addition, once per game, when you have a majority of players voting for you, you may PM the host to Activate the Chamber. Once you have done this, it will be announced in the thread that the Aperture Science Blind Testing Initiative has commenced.

If you survive the day you activate this power, you may elect to immediatley kill a player who was voting for you when you activated the chamber. Your kill flavor is "_____Succumbed to the Aperture Science Compression Simulator." After using this ability, you return red to all checks.

You win with the members of Aperture Science.

"They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch. No hand holding."





It is now Night 2. Please send in your night actions to both me and Artanis. The Night will end in on Thursday, Nov 05 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
[/spoiler]

This role is so damn powerful when used in conjunction with Acro's ability and Slam's cooperation. Picture this scenario:
- Two townies vote TT by secret ballot.
- Slam and TT vote TT, securing TT a "secret" majority.
- TT activates his ability.
- Slam and TT remove their votes "secretly" from TT.
- At the end of the Day, TT isn't lynched. A townie voting TT dies with a delayed flip. Chaos ensues.

It wouldn't even require that much coordination for that to occur.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 15:50 GMT
#2055
On November 05 2020 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.



Yes. At the end of N2.

And Christ, how many mafia do I need to kill before I stop being harassed by townies?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 15:51 GMT
#2056
On November 05 2020 00:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: Slam

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 22:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?


I really cannot see Slam mafia based on TT role PM.

Show nested quote +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2! You are the Aperture Science Blind Testing Initiative. You are a new testing chamber which basically just makes it hard to see anything. Once per game, at any time, you may PM the host to turn off the lights. For the next cycle, all flips will be revealed one phase later than normal. For example, if this power is used during night 1, any players killed that night will be flipped at the end of Day 2, and any players lynched that day will be flipped at the end of Night 2.

In addition, once per game, when you have a majority of players voting for you, you may PM the host to Activate the Chamber. Once you have done this, it will be announced in the thread that the Aperture Science Blind Testing Initiative has commenced.

If you survive the day you activate this power, you may elect to immediatley kill a player who was voting for you when you activated the chamber. Your kill flavor is "_____Succumbed to the Aperture Science Compression Simulator." After using this ability, you return red to all checks.

You win with the members of Aperture Science.

"They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch. No hand holding."





It is now Night 2. Please send in your night actions to both me and Artanis. The Night will end in on Thursday, Nov 05 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


This role is so damn powerful when used in conjunction with Acro's ability and Slam's cooperation. Picture this scenario:
- Two townies vote TT by secret ballot.
- Slam and TT vote TT, securing TT a "secret" majority.
- TT activates his ability.
- Slam and TT remove their votes "secretly" from TT.
- At the end of the Day, TT isn't lynched. A townie voting TT dies with a delayed flip. Chaos ensues.

It wouldn't even require that much coordination for that to occur.
[/spoiler]

By this logic, it makes me think that Thread B is pretty much all confirmed town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 15:57 GMT
#2058
Actually, that kinda depends on how we interpret the mechanics, and whether or not a "majority" in one "thread" constitutes a "majority" for the purposes of activating TT's role. Need to ask Greymist.
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