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[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2 - Page 2

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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 13:43 GMT
#764
Oh shit I got the entire group of people who were scumreading me and none of the people I play with as my group lol.

I didn't go to the database the plan seemed unclear when I went to bed.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 14:02 GMT
#768
I was going to say that I didn't think it seemed like an overtly pro-town role.

As mafia you get to choose who goes in what group to stack the lynches how you want them, and the mafia didn't get any NKs last night.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 14:37 GMT
#771
Hapa why do you think people would be uncomfortable talking about your claim?

You were basing your reads off of reactions to it earlier.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 14:41 GMT
#772
If I understand correctly you think Slam wanted to push you but he felt uncomfortable talking about specifics so he had to address it in a round-about way?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 16:53 GMT
#775
I was thinking that raising the corruption would give mafia KP after the no kill this turn. Too bad I didn't say it or I could have been smart like Koshi.

It looks like I'm the only player here who played in the original, so I have critical information about the lemons!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 16:58 GMT
#776
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.


I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey.

I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 18:21 GMT
#791
I love watching the other thread's responses.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 18:28 GMT
#796
Why would Acro expect you to die if he doesn't know your role?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 18:29 GMT
#797
lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 18:33 GMT
#799
For what it's worth I'd bet ShoCkkey is town. Even though it doesn't make any sense.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2020 18:55 GMT
#807
On October 31 2020 03:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2020 03:33 Grackaroni wrote:
For what it's worth I'd bet ShoCkkey is town. Even though it doesn't make any sense.

What makes you think that? His claim?

Just from how he freaked out thinking he caught you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 01:43 GMT
#830
The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.

Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 01:46 GMT
#831
Oh nvm lol.

I only read the alignment/item section.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 01:47 GMT
#832
*database/item section
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 02:02 GMT
#833
I actually did think that earlier too lol.

On October 31 2020 01:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I was thinking that raising the corruption would give mafia KP after the no kill this turn. Too bad I didn't say it or I could have been smart like Koshi.

It looks like I'm the only player here who played in the original, so I have critical information about the lemons!


I've been playing the long-con.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 02:04 GMT
#834
Along with my comment about the lemons, which was also very important.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 02:08 GMT
#835
My thought that mafia didn't have KP and that corruption would increase it was from after seeing the no-kill and a double lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 02:16 GMT
#836
So how are things in bizarro world at the moment Rayn?

Are people talking about how Grackaroni correctly assessed the Hapahauli win-con claim situation (very confidenly as Hapa may add!) and that Hapahauli may slay Acrofales fully clearing Grackaroni in the eyes of Raynpelikoneet?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 16:09 GMT
#847
Started reading from the top of the game.

In the first 10 pages I actually think Acro comes off as townier than anyone. I got overexcited that he'd be scum because I saw Koshi/Rayn bashing on him in the other thread and Hapa pushing him in this one but I think he actually looks townier than Rayn so far.

On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.


2nd option to me still seems exceedingly obvious to me. From the start of the game Dirkzor talks about how he wants to check what raising the corruption counter will do and then he raises it by himself anyway mid-day. I would not do that as town in return for what he calls a hint in 5 phases. Whatever he's getting from doing it is empowering himself to achieve his own win condition. I'm quite confident about that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2020 16:29 GMT
#849
On November 01 2020 01:23 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 01:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Started reading from the top of the game.

In the first 10 pages I actually think Acro comes off as townier than anyone. I got overexcited that he'd be scum because I saw Koshi/Rayn bashing on him in the other thread and Hapa pushing him in this one but I think he actually looks townier than Rayn so far.

On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.


2nd option to me still seems exceedingly obvious to me. From the start of the game Dirkzor talks about how he wants to check what raising the corruption counter will do and then he raises it by himself anyway mid-day. I would not do that as town in return for what he calls a hint in 5 phases. Whatever he's getting from doing it is empowering himself to achieve his own win condition. I'm quite confident about that.

Have you had an origional thought of your own this game?

I just gave one in the post you quoted.

No need to be upset if I don't believe your claim.
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