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On June 04 2020 03:10 CopCake wrote:
Idk what is worse
Tfrl's "I have to sleep" two times consecutive promising reads or Vivax's saying my meta that then later apparently is irrelevant.
So far I think Jock/Jekaka/Tiktock should be in the never lynch forever.
Zey are you there?
Yea, I'm questioning the townpass I gave Trfel early. I thought his defense of me was pretty towny, and I kinda liked that he was at least trying to poke people so early in the game.
Idk, I'm kinda liking Vivax's posts recently. Might need to relook at Trfel and maybe zey
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On June 04 2020 03:32 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 03:22 Tictock wrote:On June 04 2020 02:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
This thing everyone's talking about with shockeyy seems like a misunderstanding or a typo and I wouldn't be judging people on that tbh.
Unless I'm missing something.
He was talking about rhyming mafia teams... shock and jock last time and hypothetically cop and plop this time cos it would be funny i guess. In both cases i would be mafia, once with shockeyy the other with copcake, and they rhyme.
I don't see how that makes him mafia unless you were already thinking he's mafia and this isn't the reason for reading him.
I feel like i'm not being clear but that's the best way i can think to explain it.
Meh, still confused since he mentioned Jock/plop and I don't accpet atypical rhymscheme... Agreed that it has no bearing on his alignment, however, what do you think about his other posting? It seems like Cake and I are both picking up that Sho isn't really playing for fun atm, and I really feel like he's leaning hard on this "I don't like D1" thing which someone said is a meta for him. His play is familiar for shockeyy but i couldn't differentiate between mafia shockeyy and town shockeyy from what's currently in his filter. I don't think he's a good lynch tbh.
I'm not convinced he's a bad lynch...
but I think I'd rather consolidate than keep whining about the bad taste he's leaving in my thread.
Besides being somewhat unimpressive, why should I join your Vivax lynch?
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On June 04 2020 03:51 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 03:48 Tictock wrote:On June 04 2020 03:10 CopCake wrote:
Idk what is worse
Tfrl's "I have to sleep" two times consecutive promising reads or Vivax's saying my meta that then later apparently is irrelevant.
So far I think Jock/Jekaka/Tiktock should be in the never lynch forever.
Zey are you there? Yea, I'm questioning the townpass I gave Trfel early. I thought his defense of me was pretty towny, and I kinda liked that he was at least trying to poke people so early in the game. Idk, I'm kinda liking Vivax's posts recently. Might need to relook at Trfel and maybe zey What do you like?
Besides the two posts where he's angry he's kinda sticking to his guns and his posts feel pretty off the cuff. Thought his read on you was interestingly against the grain...
I guess it's just not what I'd expect from mafia under pressure. That random burst of emotion has me scratching my head a bit though, and not sure why it was so directed at rayn.
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Glancing through Zey's filter...
Zey am I correct in assuming that Trfel and myself is your most likely scumteam?
It was suggested that I should check your progression on Trfel and I have to admit I have a bit of a hard time following where you are at in the game based on your filter.
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I need to head out for a bit, should be back well before deadline still.
I think I'd prefer a Trfel lynch if it's down to Trfel or Vivax.
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Sorry all, almost didnt make it back.
Swapping to Vivax because I dont want to lynch cake.
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Humm actually reading and catching up, I dont like Trfel's re-entry into the game.
On June 04 2020 05:42 Trfel wrote:Why are we lynching people who are town? 
Trfel, why is Vivax town?
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Trying to get stuff done around the house today to prep for roommates Bday this weekend, so I'm kinda around but mostly just reading. Skimmed a bit but mostly caught up atm.
TinfoilTock really wants the scumteam to be Trfel/Vivax and they made the most epic slithering out of a noose I've ever seen.
I have a lot to say about Trfel right now, but I'd rather wait till I can fact check a little.
Paranoid me is worried Jeeka is trying to pocket me, but he's doing a really good job so I'm just gunna call him town and channel that paranoia into tinfoil.
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On June 05 2020 02:53 Vivax wrote:
I encourage peeps to look at TT's filter. It's kinda telling at quick glance.
- Settles for a very early cop townread.
- Agrees with cop early on Shockeyy being scum.
- His followup before deadline doesn't reflect any intention of directing the lynch either way, when he really should have a clear cut opinion of what the game should be doing.
- Most posts are rather focused at discussing stuff from all sorts of topics. Like asking me about what I was saying about cake, but not really coming out with something from it that would make him say I'm wrong and cake is town. Or I'm mafia and cake is town. He just kinda okay's the replies he gets and minds his own business.
- Instead asks me why he should consider zey, then asks Jock why he should consider me. Two posts he's doubting his Trfel read, then his read on me.
He has a very hands-off approach to the game. He did look at zey but didn't come out with a conclusion, just a question of whether zey thinks he's scum. Then he voted me for the sake of not voting cop. Again, easy out.
You don't get the feeling TT analyzes posts and asks question to reach a clear-cut way of seeing the game that he can stick to and influence the lynch the way he likes. It's really just a pretense to be insecure, while usually that should push townies towards reconsidering things in a hurry, he appears more calm and mechanical.
Shouldn't he have had a clear opinion to lynch Shockeyy considering he was questioning my townread on him?
That read just sort of went away towards the end and he was just contemplating Trfel, myself, even after I apparently swayed him that Shock could be town.
tl;dr: I don't think Ticktock has a real opinion on things and he's struggling to make it look like he does.
Wow this is such a forced narrative on me, the only truthful bit is that I kinda decided cake was town early and never felt the need to question that.
I was the first person to be pushing Sho scum, and I still think he could easily be scum, cake and Trfel both kinda piggybacked on the points I made.
Near EoD it was clear to me that my preferred lunch (Sho) wasn't happening, and started to reconsider and ask questions to decide where to vote. I had weak townreads on both Vivax and Trfel so I was trying to weigh who I might have been wrong about and would be more ok to vote.
It is frustrating to play with some of you guys who base so much on meta. Like to me Sho was literally playing "to scummy to be scum" and even though everyone kinda agreed you all just give it a pass due to that being his D1 meta. I tried to argue my read but being constantly rebuked with that argument makes it feel fruitless to push it anymore.
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I have a hard time believing you actually read through my filter
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GG Jock, I'd enjoy playing with you again
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That kinda sucks, and my towncircle has shrunk dramatically
Pretty sure we are in a Vivax/Trfel world though
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Oh I really liked that last post from Zey as well, almost exactly mirrors my thoughts on Trfel
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On June 04 2020 14:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I honestly would prefer Vivax/Trfel to be the mafia team, I really don't want Jock to be mafia again :D
Also why would I be teamed with Trfel if he's my top mafia read right now? Like I seriously think with N1 kill we'll have more than enough info to find mafia the mafia team.
On June 05 2020 03:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It feels like you(Vivax) and Trfel are trying to make plays on getting either myself or TT lynched for D2.
On June 05 2020 05:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well we have 9 mins till N1 ends, we’ll know more now.
After Flip...
On June 05 2020 06:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Holy fuck, wow. At least jock wasn’t mafia again, but fuck we lost our doctor. How will we stop the coronavirus from spreading through our sushi ranks now??
On June 05 2020 07:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
After going through Jocks posts, he mostly goes after Vivax and Trfel. We have to be very aware if they're being framed or not.
...Like...
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So what have you learned Sho, who is mafia?
Why do ppl question why I'm inclined to scum read you?
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I said I had stuff to say about Trfel, and to be honest Zey and Jeeka pretty much hit on it already but I'll briefly go over what I saw.
Trfel's re-entry to EoD:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 04 2020 05:42 Trfel wrote:Why are we lynching people who are town? On June 04 2020 05:46 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 05:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On June 04 2020 05:42 Trfel wrote:Why are we lynching people who are town? Who should we lynch? Of the people with votes, maybe CopCake? I'm just having a ton of trouble finding mafia this game. I blame foremost my lack of effort, but secondly the lack of information/content to use. CopCake seems like the most likely mafia from what I have read so far though. On June 04 2020 05:51 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 05:46 CopCake wrote:On June 04 2020 05:46 Trfel wrote:On June 04 2020 05:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On June 04 2020 05:42 Trfel wrote:Why are we lynching people who are town? Who should we lynch? Of the people with votes, maybe CopCake? I'm just having a ton of trouble finding mafia this game. I blame foremost my lack of effort, but secondly the lack of information/content to use. CopCake seems like the most likely mafia from what I have read so far though. elaborate? Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 03:10 CopCake wrote:
Idk what is worse
Tfrl's "I have to sleep" two times consecutive promising reads or Vivax's saying my meta that then later apparently is irrelevant.
So far I think Jock/Jekaka/Tiktock should be in the never lynch forever.
Zey are you there? Stuff like this. Not focusing on who is mafia, but just who is playing "badly." Being so confident in assuming people are mafia (specifically me, and I've barely posted). It's hard to articulate but it just feels false to me. It also doesn't feel like you care about getting your target lynched. Moreso than indecision, it feels like apathy, which I really don't like. In contrast to someone like Zey, who made only a few posts but does seem clearly invested in the lynch and cares about it. On June 04 2020 05:55 Trfel wrote:No thoughts, anyone?
As Jeeka pointed out at his re-entry it was Vivax getting lynched with Trfel/Cake tied and my vote on Sho. Just going off of filter I'd say Trfel going for cake actually kinda makes sense since he had questioned her early/easy townread of Jock. However, Trfel posted this:
On June 04 2020 15:47 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2020 15:00 jeekaka wrote:Vote count when you arrive: Vivax (3): Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet, CopCake Trfel (2): Zey, Jeekaka CopCake (2): Vivax, ShoCkeyy ShocCkey (1): TicTock So, you dont think Vivax is town. You and cake are both next in two votes, and you vote Cake soon after, so you definitely don't think she's town. On June 04 2020 05:42 Trfel wrote:Why are we lynching people who are town? So what on earth does this mean then? I was half-joking, and did kinda think CopCake was town (though my mind quickly changed). I sometimes assume people are town until there is evidence to the contrary, as was the case here (after which I got to business). The post served its purpose of attracting attention and not lynching Vivax, though.
Very much backpeddeling on what his stance on cake looked like, and the bolded part just has to be a slip because Trfel has posts saying he both doesn't think Vivax is town and doesn't think he is mafia (so is a null read) and yet had the intention of drawing ppl from lynching Vivax...
##Vote: Trfel
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Looking forward to seeing what made Vivax BURST OUT LAUGHING about me saying his post is a forced narrative. I mean guy has been calling me mafia literally since the start of the game, finally puts together a case-post about it, and it's literally all easily fact-checkable to be false. So I'm gunna calls it as I sees it.
@Zey, I wasn't super clear (and I forgot a couple things, which is a lesson to not start drinking early and try to play mafia). When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. There was a sense that he could have been scum-reading her since early on. I very much agree with you that Trfel N1 made a ton of posts that backtrack and retcon what his reads where D1.
Actually on that topic, I love Jeeka's point about Trfel voting with Sho. Trfel ignoring Sho EoD (when he had earlier said Sho looked scummy) is super suspect imo, but I had failed to notice that in voting for cake he was also voting with his scum read Sho >.<
I am gunna make an effort to be around a bit later tonight, but I am frankly going to be pretty useless this weekend due to roomates Bday I mentioned. I'm using the whole thing as an excuse to build a firepit in the backyeard which has been on my project list for awhile now and am going to be baking birthday and party treats most of the day tomorrow.
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Humm, this pacing to a day gives me the heebies. At the same time it makes sense for a kinda defeated-feeling Trfel/Vivax team. I'd expect a bit more invigoration after pulling the switch to cake D1...
Then again if I was in mafia!Trfel's shoes I'd feel backed into an unwinnable spot as well and not want to play.
I suppose there is nothing to it but to see what the flip is.
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Zey, was that post from D1?
If so I skimmed over that bit, but I'm confused why you keep hammering me on this. You seem to just be furthering the argument that Trfel's actions and reads are completely mismatched, and I've been making the same argument.
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Trfel... idk man. I actually like your recent string of posting, though I kinda hate your Sho vote for reasons I'm gunna fuck up articulating atm. + Show Spoiler [attempt] +I can't help but feel Trfel is appealing the fact that I voted Sho D1 and started the current wagon on him
Multiple things make it like 99% likely you and Vivax are the scumteam here, like I'm pretty sure you even made some excuse for this not being Vivax's scumgame when I've heard multiple refferences to scum!Vivax playing a a rough but successful mafia game in the last game by breaking meta. His play this game makes a ton of sense to me as burnt out scum!vax not willing to make the effort again. Even besides Vivax though your EoD play and followup posts really make it hard to not see you as mafia here.
However, I do like what you've been posting and encourage you to keep it up. I'd like your opinion on one thing from today.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 05 2020 21:54 Zey wrote:Show nested quote +Tictock wrote:
Just going off of filter I'd say Trfel going for cake actually kinda makes sense since he had questioned her early/easy townread of Jock. How it makes sense? Yeah he asked her reasoning, but here it sounds to me like he was okay with her answering: Show nested quote +Trfel wrote:
I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can And according to him even Rayns hi was more scummy than Cakes townread of Jock. AND he admitted that 4 minutes before he suggestes lynching Cake he was kinda thinking that Cake is town. So how it makes sense?? On June 05 2020 22:13 Zey wrote:Show nested quote +Tictock wrote:
I said I had stuff to say about Trfel, and to be honest Zey and Jeeka pretty much hit on it already but I'll briefly go over what I saw. Show nested quote +Tictock wrote:
Just going off of filter I'd say Trfel going for cake actually kinda makes sense since he had questioned her early/easy townread of Jock. How I "pretty much hit on it" if the only thing I was saying was "Trfel going for cake doesn't make sense" and you are saying that you believe that it made sense? On June 06 2020 03:34 Zey wrote:Show nested quote +Tictock wrote:
When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. In my opinion it did just appear. Even if you forget what he said N1 and D1 on the last hour, still. I don't see any hint that Trfel would think that Cake is scum. Like here: Show nested quote +Trfel wrote:
I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. (1) I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. (2)To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. (3)But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it. (1) If I'm understanding this right he is saying that his question to Cake didn't lead to any opinion about her and there wasn't even really a change to lead anywhere. (2) Trfel is saying that even rayns hi was scummier than Cakes townread on Jock. And (3) he doesn't really think that even that was scummy. So how you are thinking that Cake read didn't just appear? On June 06 2020 04:18 Zey wrote:I think it is possible. Looking to Tictocks filter I don't see anything to make it impossible. I mean he didn't suspect Trfel until N1 and then Trfel had drawn attention to himself already.
Thoughts on that series of posts, and general interaction.
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