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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 13 2019 04:54 GMT
#32
Rayn: Do you wanna play mafia?

Me: who is hosting?

Rayn: Slam

Me: are you playing?

Rayn: yes

Me: link me

** reads title **

Smile on face

Spam me with saint pepsi or any nostalgic beat.

/in

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 13 2019 16:53 GMT
#39
I don't mind which set up we use, as long is vanilla.

Ah vaporwave is such a guilty pleasure.

I'll share what I like until the game starts.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 13 2019 19:46 GMT
#42
You guys would probably love Telan Devik or Lazerhawk's work.
+ Show Spoiler +




Trevor Something is another great one.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-14 16:14:34
August 14 2019 16:11 GMT
#54
/confirm



How fancy your new polls and shit.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 13:24 GMT
#100
Helloooooooooooooooo

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 13:42 GMT
#102
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 16:30 GMT
#111
Yeah idc about metas because as some of you should (must) know I am not even that active, just wanted to see some reactions since it is pretty dumb to say “this guy is town because he doesnt post that much as mafia” rip.

Also too early to make filters Jock.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 16:49 GMT
#115
@Jock you could ask a host to put them, the extra work to me will always be weird but that is just the opinion of a cute innocent town.

@Vivax: so so, at least I am leaning HF as town so far.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 17:16 GMT
#119
On August 18 2019 01:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 18 2019 01:49 CopCake wrote:
@Jock you could ask a host to put them, the extra work to me will always be weird but that is just the opinion of a cute innocent town.


What does this even mean?



I dont want to sound mean but it seems extra effort to look town.

@Vivax My last game was the one in which all mafia were AFK and town killed each other and I promised myself to be more chill and nicer in games after that.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 18:04 GMT
#134
On August 18 2019 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 17 2019 22:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:42 CopCake wrote:
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?


Pretty much. He's usually afk day 1 as scum. Not conftown but its a solid meta lean and its the best info we have so far given that nothing else is happening in the thread


Ah, yes, I can easily see how his 4 posts look like activity :D



This post, to me it looked like sarcasm and if it is not I don’t understand how you guys can use “meta” to excuse someone who is also aware of how people see him. If I rolled mafia and I knew I had a pattern of how I play as mafia I would try to do my “town game”.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 19:38 GMT
#151
Uh i dont get why you guys take an early “town read” so serious, I think a questioning HF is very town because I dont get why you can call “town locked” for a meta read of a couple of posts, I cant consider not even 6 posts activity.

Now about me having shit reads haha.

Times I have been mafia and ryan town

1.- when we met
2.- some game with darthe and hallia
3.- Two games here I think, one of them being the one with Glowing bear

Times we rolled mafia together
1.- first game at vs
2.- the game when he killed tina night 1

Times we have been town together
Quite some

I generally do tone reads and question night actions but I cant say if my game is “town” or “mafia” because I consider myself “meta free”.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 19:52 GMT
#156
On August 18 2019 04:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 18 2019 04:38 CopCake wrote:
Uh i dont get why you guys take an early “town read” so serious, I think a questioning HF is very town because I dont get why you can call “town locked” for a meta read of a couple of posts, I cant consider not even 6 posts activity.


This is an absolutely horrible post lol.

You spend the first few pages complaining about my town lean on Vivax while simultaneously saying we shouldn't take town leans seriously.

Is it just your early reads we shouldn't take seriously or is it everyones?

Also I literally said TWICE that I was only leaning town on vivax and only rayn has given vivax a full townread, so that 'town locked' comment is very inaccurate.

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On August 17 2019 22:38 Jockmcplop wrote:

So far I'm leaning town on Vivax just on the basis that he's making posts and hanging around on tl elsewhere also which I don't think he tends to do as mafia.


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On August 17 2019 22:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:42 CopCake wrote:
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?


Pretty much. He's usually afk day 1 as scum. Not conftown but its a solid meta lean and its the best info we have so far given that nothing else is happening in the thread



Neither mine should be considered serious but to see many people triggered by it can tell tons in the future lol
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:06 GMT
#162
How is that hypocrisy?

Jock meta read vivax for 4 posts << looks bad to me

HF made his post kinda questioning << town read him

But you dont see me hard claiming he is town town town, actually let me quote myself.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:09 GMT
#163
On August 18 2019 01:49 CopCake wrote:
@Jock you could ask a host to put them, the extra work to me will always be weird but that is just the opinion of a cute innocent town.

@Vivax: so so, at least I am leaning HF as town so far.


Leaningggggggggggggggg wooh!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:12 GMT
#166
On August 18 2019 01:30 CopCake wrote:
Yeah idc about metas because as some of you should (must) know I am not even that active, just wanted to see some reactions since it is pretty dumb to say “this guy is town because he doesnt post that much as mafia” rip.

Also too early to make filters Jock.


And my opinion of metas.

I fish for reactions. 🐠

Comments like “too early to make filters” / “I see it as a mafia move to do extra work” are to see if someone deffends jock and agree that he is super nice.

You know, I dont know him and is my duty as town to make people talk.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:15 GMT
#168
On August 17 2019 22:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 17 2019 22:24 CopCake wrote:
Helloooooooooooooooo



Hi Copcake, I'm Wee Jock Poo Pong McPlop, are you mafia?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


By the way, this is no longer a death metal thread or a vaporwave thread, its a spiritual, experimental, jazz harp thread.

+ Show Spoiler +


So far I'm leaning town on Vivax just on the basis that he's making posts and hanging around on tl elsewhere also which I don't think he tends to do as mafia.



Ok let me explain the difference between your leaning and mine.

You explained why he is leaning town, I didnt.

You made a mini case based on meta, I didnt, mine was a tone read.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:22 GMT
#172
On August 18 2019 05:17 Vivax wrote:
Unless it's futile which is going to be the case mostly, then I'm better off buddying him and aiming at lynch bait. Which is what cake could be doing. Except for the lynch bait part, but a lot of people haven't posted.


And wouldnt jock be all buddy buddy trying to town read you?

Just a question.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:32 GMT
#175
On August 18 2019 05:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 18 2019 05:15 CopCake wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:24 CopCake wrote:
Helloooooooooooooooo



Hi Copcake, I'm Wee Jock Poo Pong McPlop, are you mafia?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


By the way, this is no longer a death metal thread or a vaporwave thread, its a spiritual, experimental, jazz harp thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1KdylAIfg


So far I'm leaning town on Vivax just on the basis that he's making posts and hanging around on tl elsewhere also which I don't think he tends to do as mafia.



Ok let me explain the difference between your leaning and mine.

You explained why he is leaning town, I didnt.

You made a mini case based on meta, I didnt, mine was a tone read.


There is a difference yeah I see that.

But you said that I had vivax as lock town which I specifically said I didn't and then you said we shouldn't take town leans early on seriously.

What you should have said was not to take reads based on tone early on seriously, because you literally said not to take leans seriously while getting triggered at a town lean. Can you see how that looked hypocritical because of what you said?

Anyway this is getting us nowhere fast. I'm not scumreading you right now anyway just trying to figure out where you're coming from. It makes a little bit more sense now.


The game is like that, and it is my first time playing with you so I want a general opinion of many, not just one person.

Anything I say is not ill ittended, I swear I am nice <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 20:34 GMT
#176
On August 18 2019 05:29 Vivax wrote:
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On August 18 2019 05:22 CopCake wrote:
On August 18 2019 05:17 Vivax wrote:
Unless it's futile which is going to be the case mostly, then I'm better off buddying him and aiming at lynch bait. Which is what cake could be doing. Except for the lynch bait part, but a lot of people haven't posted.


And wouldnt jock be all buddy buddy trying to town read you?

Just a question.



Yes if I didn't townread him already for being helpful at baiting more content and invested in his reads. What makes you think he is faking his suspicion on you?


Where did I claim he is faking suspicion on me?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 17 2019 21:16 GMT
#181
Read me!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 03:52 GMT
#185
The game is slow :/
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 13:51 GMT
#194
General question

Games are this slow lately?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:20 GMT
#209
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:29 GMT
#218
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:40 GMT
#226
But wasnt your “vote” a joke?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:41 GMT
#227
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:51 GMT
#231
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:59 GMT
#238
On August 19 2019 00:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:51 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.


I don't normally use meta that much to be honest, but Vivax is kind of a special case in that regard (he's one of the easiest people to meta read) and as I've said a few times I'm only leaning town on him - but that's good enough for him definitely not to be the day 1 vote.

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WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?


Is this some kind of claim?


Not claim in this game but I love to be mafia when I have a good teamate that doesnt just afk.

And either way, dont you find odd that vivax didnt question you about meta reading him? Like he could had seen that as “Omg he is trying to pocket me” but he didnt? Let me check because I was tunneling you and maybe I should had put my sight to the other side.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 16:14 GMT
#242
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 17:17 GMT
#251
I'll be really disappointed if all the mafia are AFK if HF is right, what's the point of playing anymore if you roll mafia you just give up?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 17:46 GMT
#264
On August 19 2019 02:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Copcake who would you lynch right now?

Maybe we just build a wagon and see what happens?


I would lynch a lurker if I have no other option but I do think we still have time.

When it is the end of the day?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 17:48 GMT
#267
glasses > surgery but that is just me.

My brother wants to get it tho.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 17:55 GMT
#270
On August 19 2019 02:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 19 2019 02:46 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 02:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Copcake who would you lynch right now?

Maybe we just build a wagon and see what happens?


I would lynch a lurker if I have no other option but I do think we still have time.

When it is the end of the day?


11 hours from now but i don't think there's going to be anyone around after about 6-7 hours from now.


/sighs

I do hope rayn comes back and starts to talk.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:08 GMT
#274
I am NOT lynching squishy
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:12 GMT
#277
I think is dumb to assume he is mafia for that, like seriously...

"Hello I am squishy and I am going to direct attack vocal veterans because why the fuck not and get all the attention to me"

That is the world you are giving me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:14 GMT
#279
On August 19 2019 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
Who else was he supposed to attack though?


I am an easy lynch bait and he didn't use me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:16 GMT
#281
He could also use an afk, but not, he went directly to see the "active" players and try to make something out of it, he could be like the others and be all like "Oh I was busy with irl, I'll be back I am doing this thing in real life".

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:19 GMT
#283
On August 19 2019 03:15 Vivax wrote:
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On August 19 2019 03:12 CopCake wrote:
I think is dumb to assume he is mafia for that, like seriously...

"Hello I am squishy and I am going to direct attack vocal veterans because why the fuck not and get all the attention to me"

That is the world you are giving me.


So you townread people for attacking veterans? Must be easy to be mafia against you. If I weren't sure that it's definitely not an argumentation you're going to apply to everyone simply because you wouldn't agree that all mafia go after lynch bait.


Nah mate, I have said so many times before that I don't care for metas and who I have to attack but my style is not the same as what I have seen so far here "Omg let's not kill veterans because they might be useful later", if you follow meta, you follow those rules no?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:34 GMT
#285
I am reading squishy and honestly, I don't see him as mafia.

1. Says will catch up and makes the OJ Simpson comment, something that Rayn also pointed out to be weird.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2019 16:49 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 18 2019 05:15 Vivax wrote:
But I really answered that a bit badly rayn:

If I were mafia, I'd not throw an early read at HF like that, most likely. I'd probably only start building a scumread on him if he was looking my way for the lynch.


Ok OJ Simpson


Post #161 and post #171 of the game by rayn.
On August 18 2019 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2019 04:51 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post.

No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read.

You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant.


Why couldn't she do it if HF is town? Is there a cake mafia meta where she hard defends teammates?

Would you make that read if youre mafia and hf is town?

On August 18 2019 05:15 Vivax wrote:
But I really answered that a bit badly rayn:

If I were mafia, I'd not throw an early read at HF like that, most likely. I'd probably only start building a scumread on him if he was looking my way for the lynch.


On August 18 2019 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah you did.



2.- Squishy's second read was this after explaining his suspicion on Vivax and the OJ Simpson thing

On August 19 2019 00:08 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 19 2019 00:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
Any other thoughts squishy?




Rayn is an interesting one. Definitely not on good ground with Vivax and HF from the go. That could mean to things to me town since it’s ballsy or mafia planting seeds of doubt into the veterans


This makes sense in my world of a town squishy because the "veterans" are not town circle each other. But I have to say something, it looks like Vivax in clinging to people.

Strong enough to be vocal but not THAT strong.

So nope, I am not lynching squishy, I would rather kill and AFK than someone who seems to be town IN MY WORLD, who is giving his opinions not caring who he goes against to.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 18:58 GMT
#288
On August 18 2019 05:12 Vivax wrote:
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On August 18 2019 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 04:51 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post.

No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read.

You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant.


Why couldn't she do it if HF is town? Is there a cake mafia meta where she hard defends teammates?

Would you make that read if youre mafia and hf is town?


I'd be suicidal as mafia if I tried to lynch HF on a D1, which is why it's a wet dream of mine.

To add to the previous post:

Townies tend to be hypocrites all the time. Or at least are more prone to accusing others of things they did themselves. Mafia doesn't think they know how mafia thinks, they just know it.

So they don't get hypocritical if they try to keep the story straight and remember what they posted. When I'm mafia, accusing someone of something I did myself while being conscious about having done it would give me the feeling that I'm leading you straight to myself.

But anyway, I think that, even if the little theory is completely wrong, at most cake's hypocrisy should be treated as null.


On August 19 2019 02:45 Vivax wrote:
The best is that he says I'm not voting HF because I don't vote veterans on D1, and not because I don't have a scumread on HF.



I am confused with this.


And squishy's post about the duo is this.

On August 19 2019 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 19 2019 00:11 reps)squishy wrote:
I am starting to suspect a HF, Vivax scumbo combo. Checking previous pages to see if they interact. If they do My suspicion will be lifted


It's tough to interact over the course of three posts, you got us :D


Which I agree, I think "veterans" talk between each other and they haven't done it at all (Have seen it, hasn't changed). You haven't cleared each other, which is not even that big of a wild guess that one of you at least (HF, Vivax, Rayn) is mafia.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 19:03 GMT
#289
In few words.

Squishy can't be mafia because all his move attract attention to him
Creates worlds of possibilities and doesn't have a closed mind


If his "Omg I'll catch up / fell asleep / and went directly to make not popular reads" makes him mafia I would say FF is worse, his post seemed more like "oh activity to not get mod killed" than Squishy.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 19:28 GMT
#292
Ok vivax

Give me your town reads
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 23:27 GMT
#314
On August 19 2019 08:06 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:51 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.


Hi!

I'm Chezinu


Hello <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 23:29 GMT
#315
Feel free to ask me any question you have Chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 23:55 GMT
#317
I never used "too scummy to be scum" on me, wtf

where did you get that?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 00:03 GMT
#322
Jock is town so far, he seemed really frustrated but was willing to work with me and he did't used it on me.


His small sin was to clear vivax really fast but nothing to be sacrificed for.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 00:42 GMT
#323
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 02:42 GMT
#330
On August 19 2019 10:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile



This is a good point. Don't really get what chez was trying to say tbh.


Why are you agreeing with him when he made so many mistakes?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 02:53 GMT
#332
On August 19 2019 11:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 10:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile



This is a good point. Don't really get what chez was trying to say tbh.


Why are you agreeing with him when he made so many mistakes?


He turned up and came to the same conclusion as me (and hf) but for bad reasons, that doesn't really say anything about me at all.


I...

Eh...

I am not saying you look bad?

In fact I think you are town (but that about me is irking me now)

I just want to know why because he claimed I did something which is wrong, and so did it with you.

It looked like he just wanted to make a smart post and skimmed.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 02:53 GMT
#333
Besides one of the obvious things he needs to point out is Rayn inactivity but he didnt.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 02:55 GMT
#335
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire


This is REALLY a bad post if you ask me.

But I am just a cake.

[image loading]
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:15 GMT
#339
Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Because HEY

Who is in your mafia list?

Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?

Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.


Your mafia reads are LAZY.



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:20 GMT
#343
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:15 CopCake wrote:
Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Because HEY

Who is in your mafia list?

Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?

Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.


Your mafia reads are LAZY.




Does my having lazy reads indicate an alignment?


It doesn't help the game, it is just a post trying to look useful when it isn't, you corrected your "case" on me and now you are attacking me for my "TONE" which is what?

What makes you think I am mafia?

Explain yourself.

Also looking at you Jock.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:35 GMT
#353
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire



This, I can ask you the same thing, why are you so sure afks have blues?

And now I HAVE THIS JEWEL
On August 19 2019 12:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu is probably mafia too. He usually uses stuff to make something happen out of it, or like, there is some reason why he posts cryptic stuff he does, and i don't see anything but some posts that don't intend to do anything.

Total and complete agreement from me. This is why I didn't like his entire string of posts on the page where I returned to thread.



YOU EVIL MOD!

You always considered HF kinda mafia but your mafia were me, squishy and chezinu? really?

REALLYYYYY?

On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire


He disagreed with HF but blames Squishy for doubting HF?

Agh

Not popular opinion but I am voting FF.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:38 GMT
#355
Oh my mistake, you meant to agree with rayn on Chezinu and not HF, derp forget that.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:40 GMT
#358
On August 19 2019 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????

Sure, that sounds pretty scummy. I'll give you an HF scumlean for that how about?



But you still wrote this.

If you agree with rayn on HF being kinda mafia

Has your read on squishy changed?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:42 GMT
#359
On August 19 2019 12:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
Copcake what I was agreeing with Fefe about was:

That there is no way of knowing whether or not there are blues in the AFK pile and that makes Chez's logic bad.

It looks to me like you think that we're trying to suggest the opposite.


To me it looks like you agreed on him that there are blues in the AFK pile which I know that might be the case, which is why I don't vote afk unless it is really last resort thing.

Last game I played town ate each other and the afks were somewhere being happy.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:43 GMT
#361
Rayn talk to me if you are town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:53 GMT
#371
On August 19 2019 12:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
Copcake what I was agreeing with Fefe about was:

That there is no way of knowing whether or not there are blues in the AFK pile and that makes Chez's logic bad.

It looks to me like you think that we're trying to suggest the opposite.


To me it looks like you agreed on him that there are blues in the AFK pile which I know that might be the case, which is why I don't vote afk unless it is really last resort thing.

Last game I played town ate each other and the afks were somewhere being happy.


No you are literally just wrong. Go back and re-read what Fefe originally wrote.
He was saying that Chezinu's logic was bad because we literally have no way of knowing where the blues are at this point, right?
At least that's how I read it.


Ok I am going to go very slowly so to see if you see my point.

Go read his "mafia reads" and "town reads"

He accuses me of something that you did (in the read, not the last post) but you are in his town read for being "active", has he changed his opinion of you?

Now I am going back to Chezinu


On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


If present :/

My problem is that I read that as if he is saying the active blues a chance.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:54 GMT
#374
On August 19 2019 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Rayn talk to me if you are town.

About what?


Am I wrong with FF?

read his posts and progression, ignore he agrees with you with HF and chezinu, read him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 03:56 GMT
#378
On August 19 2019 12:56 Chezinu wrote:
What do you do if the mafia is female, but you meta says you can't lynch a girl...?


What is this even?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 04:05 GMT
#384
On August 19 2019 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:54 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Rayn talk to me if you are town.

About what?


Am I wrong with FF?

read his posts and progression, ignore he agrees with you with HF and chezinu, read him.

I don't understand why you are even scumreading him.


Two of his initial "mafia cases" are wrong.

specially this part

On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire


I mean, if you look at HF Filter... he voted Squishy... he didnt defend him...
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/550431-v-a-p-o-r-w-a-v-e-mafia?user=Holyflare
On August 19 2019 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 22:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.

Do mafia do that or are they more likely to stay quiet?


Post nothing and get modkilled or what? Feigned activity saying you're catching up and not posting anything? That's bad.


Explain to me how drawing attention to himself in that manner is mafialike.

I get that its bad.


I don't really understand this post either. What do you expect him to do as mafia if he has made 0 posts in the thread? He would get modkilled, or at least warned. He's forced to contribute by virtue of the game and since there is very little content in the thread (there is SOME) it would be hard for mafia to pin accusations on literally anyone. Which is why it's very easy to post that comment he posted and just leave instead of generating anything.

As town you can quite easily feign some bs read on someone or force contributions or literally post about anything and make content, it's not that difficult.

I don't really understand why you'd defend, or at least play devil's advocate, to this stance since it's inherently a mafia thing to do to skate by. Not that I think he's totally mafia-ish after his last few flurry of posts but now that he's talking about some me and vivax combo and how he has to go back and check if we interact when it's clear if he's just read through the thread that I've posted shit all my spidey senses are tingling.


FF read is that HF defended squishy but he never did.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 04:07 GMT
#385
On August 19 2019 13:03 Jockmcplop wrote:
Copcake you are pissing me off

What the fuck does this:
Show nested quote +
Go read his "mafia reads" and "town reads"

He accuses me of something that you did (in the read, not the last post) but you are in his town read for being "active", has he changed his opinion of you?


Have to do with this:

Show nested quote +
To me it looks like you agreed on him that there are blues in the AFK pile which I know that might be the case, which is why I don't vote afk unless it is really last resort thing.



Why are you suddenly changing the subject when you're proven wrong and then saying you're going to go slow as if its me being dumb when nothing you are saying follows or makes sense at all?

Maybe instead of going slow, just explain yourself clearly in the first place and stop misreading everything.

Anyway to answer your question
Show nested quote +
Go read his "mafia reads" and "town reads"

He accuses me of something that you did (in the read, not the last post) but you are in his town read for being "active", has he changed his opinion of you?


I don't know, lets find out.

Fefe did you change your opinion of me?

Copcake if you're town, and i think you probably are, at some point we're probably going to have to work together in this game so I'd prefer it if you'd cut the bullshit to be honest.


Going slow is for me <__< because I write bad, not for you being dumb.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 04:20 GMT
#393
I have read HF's filter several times and I don't see where he actually defends squishy.

The closest thing is this:

On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 04:36 GMT
#401
Beacause FF is using this quote to say Chezinu is mafia.

On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


The "If present" is where I have a problem, Chezinu doesn't know who are the blues but wants the active blues to have a chance.

It is how I read this quote.

Not like I think he is a clear town, his trolololol post looks like a mafia that just gave up.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 04:57 GMT
#412
On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.

WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?

I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.

Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case.


Good point, we shouldnt allow two persons to die today.

I mean I know you are wrong but dont you think is better to have just one person killed than two?

Changing my vote.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 05:02 GMT
#416
On August 19 2019 13:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 13:36 CopCake wrote:
Beacause FF is using this quote to say Chezinu is mafia.

On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


The "If present" is where I have a problem, Chezinu doesn't know who are the blues but wants the active blues to have a chance.

It is how I read this quote.

Not like I think he is a clear town, his trolololol post looks like a mafia that just gave up.

THE IF PRESENT ACTIVELY CONTRADICTS HIS OWN POST THOUGH

[It is safer to lynch the inactives] to give [(if present)] our blues a chance to play

[section 1] is only true if [section 2] is also true, yet the inclusion of [section 2] literally points out why [section 1] is irrelevant.

So the post can be rewritten to say
Show nested quote +
It is safer to lynch the inactives if the inactives aren't blue


Which says nothing. His post is a soft blue claim at best and blatant blue hunting at worst.


I dont want to sound mean or annoying like jock said but... from your three mafia cases two were wrong (from the time you wrote them because I know I pissed people off so I can be seen as mafia) and then:

1.- You agreed with rayn on HF but your case on squishy was based on HF’s opinion of him, would mean that perhaps you stopped to think squishy is scum the moment you agreed with rayn?

2.- I think you never mentioned rayn on your mafia/town list.

I am on my phone now so I cant quote that easily but I find that odd.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 05:17 GMT
#436
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The cop

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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 16:57 GMT
#472
Cop x chez team up is bullshit

I liked your post about doubting FF but might I ask why?

@Vivax

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 17:16 GMT
#474
On August 20 2019 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Cop x chez team up is bullshit

I liked your post about doubting FF but might I ask why?

@Vivax



Yea the cop x chez teamup wasn't a serious post.

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:15 CopCake wrote:
Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Because HEY

Who is in your mafia list?

Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?

Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.


Your mafia reads are LAZY.




Does my having lazy reads indicate an alignment?


It doesn't help the game, it is just a post trying to look useful when it isn't, you corrected your "case" on me and now you are attacking me for my "TONE" which is what?

What makes you think I am mafia?

Explain yourself.

Also looking at you Jock.

Your posts look as though you're trying to throw dirt on people rather than try to determine their alignment. You questioned jock for agreeing with something I said based on me being wrong on something ELSE that I said which is poisoning the well (I think I haven't brushed up on my fallacies lately) and contributes nothing to the determination of my alignment and does nothing to address what jock was actually saying.

Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Can you explain what you mean here? How do you know an inactive must be blue and where did I indicate that I thought that?


Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Using 'most of you' to discredit my read on him when I've not expressed interest in lynching an inactive is odd to me and reads like a defense of chezinu rather than an attack on my read.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.

This could be rephrased as "I disagree that quishy is scummy because: " instead of using your read on squishy as an attack on my unrelated read on squishy.



You are pushing an agenda rather than determining people's alignments.

On August 19 2019 12:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire



This, I can ask you the same thing, why are you so sure afks have blues?

And now I HAVE THIS JEWEL
On August 19 2019 12:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu is probably mafia too. He usually uses stuff to make something happen out of it, or like, there is some reason why he posts cryptic stuff he does, and i don't see anything but some posts that don't intend to do anything.

Total and complete agreement from me. This is why I didn't like his entire string of posts on the page where I returned to thread.



YOU EVIL MOD!

You always considered HF kinda mafia but your mafia were me, squishy and chezinu? really?

REALLYYYYY?

On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire


He disagreed with HF but blames Squishy for doubting HF?

Agh

Not popular opinion but I am voting FF.


Point 1:
Saying that chezinu's logic is stupid does not mean that I believe the opposite. You asking how I'm 'so sure' there are blues in the AFKs is either a leading question or just bad reading comprehension. I said chez shouldn't be so sure there are NO blues in the AFKs not that I necessarily think there ARE blues in the AFKs.

Point 2:
Already established as false and no longer a jewel

Point 3:
I blamed squishy for not reading HF's post and assuming it was a negative one. This has nothing to do with HF and everything to do with squishy and his mindset reading people's posts.



Do you have any good reasons why I'm mafia?


Please review the posts I put the most effort into in a mafia game since like 2015, everyone.

Then vote copcake or tell me why she's being like this as town


This is the reason. Although I don't think I'm going to give it too much weight for now. It would be pretty unfair towards him if it's genuine effort.

Seems kind of convenient for you to like my reasoning though. FF is scumreading you.


Ok, I will try to explain myself. If you have doubts or dont understand one thing pls ask me.

The problem is that he scum read me with false info in his first “reads/ catch up”

I called him out for that and his read on squishy with the whole HF thing.

I made a mistake missreading something he said later when he was discussing with rayn about HF but I do think I still have a point about his reads being bad.

Maybe I am reading too much into it because it is a post that contains my name.

I need to think a lot in the whole Rayn/HF thing. That will be my “tinfoil”


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 17:17 GMT
#475
“About his reads being bad” << his original first reads btw.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 17:25 GMT
#477
If rayn was mafia, who would be his scummate? @HF
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 20:10 GMT
#488
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 20:14 GMT
#489
On August 18 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.

On August 18 2019 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 18 2019 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 17 2019 22:42 CopCake wrote:
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?


Pretty much. He's usually afk day 1 as scum. Not conftown but its a solid meta lean and its the best info we have so far given that nothing else is happening in the thread


Ah, yes, I can easily see how his 4 posts look like activity :D



This post, to me it looked like sarcasm and if it is not I don’t understand how you guys can use “meta” to excuse someone who is also aware of how people see him. If I rolled mafia and I knew I had a pattern of how I play as mafia I would try to do my “town game”.

Vivax doesnt do his town game as mafia. Your perception of HF is no good.

On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia?


What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post.

No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read.

You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant.


This was directed at me
On August 18 2019 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am telling you vivax is town though regardless of my alignment.



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 20:37 GMT
#498
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 20:51 GMT
#502
But HF wasnt I one of your locked town reads?

What changed?


You are asking and I am answering your questions about rayn, it is your perspective vs what other see. I am trying to see rayn’s posts with “the no effort you see” but it doesnt work. I mean remember our last game in which all mafia were afk? Both of you and myself had guns at each other and idk if it is the case here with you and him (I am trying to be open) .

The game should be fun for everyone.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 22:05 GMT
#507
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 23:35 GMT
#521
Lmaooooo chezinu thank you for lighting up my mood.

A.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:12 GMT
#542
Rip Vivax, sad he predicted his own death so now...

1.- Vivax died to blame someone (his read was right and the person will play the "they are using this to blame me")

2.- Vivax died to make some of his town reads look "locked" (aka he was right and got killed)

3.- Vivax died because one of the magia knows that he will figure them out asap on the second day (add here a list of frequent players)


I think is 3 with either 1 or 2.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:44 GMT
#543
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:50 GMT
#545
On August 20 2019 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.


“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:52 GMT
#546
I also want to say is impossible to live in a world of HF/Rayn mafia team, Rayn would never ever make that post as mafia if HF was on his team, never, ever.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:05 GMT
#549
On August 20 2019 22:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 22:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.


“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?


Eywa wasn't here and hasn't played enough games with Vivax to clear him on meta. HF I'm not sure, ask hf, but don't say you don't know why we cleared him cos you do know that - you just don't want to accept the logic.
Which is fine but its not the same thing.


You are missing the point

Why HF didnt clear Vivax? I guess he said somewhere in frustation that is a minimal read is considered “activity” then - shrugs -

He has played with him so so so many times.

I have played with him in the past before but I play once every red moon. I wouldnt feel sure a “meta” on him, not it wouldnt be ok for town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:50 GMT
#551
Maybe I am being too nip ticky with the way he anf the others did.

To answer your question, I don’t know I cant see rayn as mafia in this game. The only one I want to lynch atm is FF.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:59 GMT
#554
Why would you lynch FF? Asking for a friend.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 18:22 GMT
#595
I am here squishy and let me tell you something, if I was mafia I would be smarter and would try to pocket a smart player like Rayn but alas I am not.

And Jock you are wrong, squishy has said before he finds weird that i deffend him and that I should stop.

On the other hand, I wont deny that read post is bad as fuck, pretty much says everyone is null except me and ff who are mafia together.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 18:42 GMT
#600
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 18:47 GMT
#604
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


Why HF?

Feel free to ask me things too.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 19:10 GMT
#609
I'll make my list when I get on lunch time if you want them with reads and reasons, which I suggest it should be like that because I know I will piss off people.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 19:16 GMT
#610
On August 21 2019 03:51 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 03:47 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


Why HF?

Feel free to ask me things too.

If I was interested in your response, I would.


This is the most condensing comment ever, I don't know why is making me laugh.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 22:47 GMT
#633
Lunch time is here
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:34 GMT
#675
I am here and got tired of writing a big post.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:37 GMT
#676
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:43 GMT
#679
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:54 GMT
#682
On August 21 2019 12:47 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?



Last game, I was afk because of real life. Did not work out well. I know if I talk nonsense, I live. People don't like quiet Chezinu. The more I spam the more likely I will live. You can look at my history. All games that I was lynched early on was due to me not spamming the forum (regardless of alignment). So, the TL Mafia community has trained me to spam the thread.


Yeah if we continue this chit chat will be just shit posting and honestly I don't want that.

Now if you could be a smart chezinu, who do you think is the mafia besides Ewya?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:00 GMT
#686
On August 21 2019 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions?


HF is town. (To me) Because he had been patient mostly. The whole HF vs Rayn reminded me the last game I played here.

Besides all the agenda Ewya has been pushing is to separate HF and Rayn. I would dare say that FF has been trying that too with the "This is something HF mafia would do".

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:13 GMT
#690
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:20 GMT
#693
It is a very typical mafia move Chezinu.

Kill a "Veteran"

1.- You can claim "OMG they killed him to blame me because he read me as mafia"

2.- They killed him because he was near in finding mafia.

No one has played the victim card so I assume it is the "they were close to find mafia"

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:21 GMT
#694
I don't understand your list Chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:27 GMT
#698
On August 21 2019 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 13:20 CopCake wrote:
It is a very typical mafia move Chezinu.

Kill a "Veteran"

1.- You can claim "OMG they killed him to blame me because he read me as mafia"

2.- They killed him because he was near in finding mafia.

No one has played the victim card so I assume it is the "they were close to find mafia"



Or that vivax's meta that everyone kept referencing makes him impossible to lynch and the other vets were on the wrong track. Pointless speculating.


???

I do think someone "strong" got him because he would be able to figure out shit later. You don't necessary need to lynch a veteran, if you are mafia you need to convince the "town veterans" to lynch the weak players that look scummy.

Mafia need to kill people veterans at night, weak during the day.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 04:50 GMT
#704
The problem I have with FF being the other mafia is that it would be too obvious. I think he is smarter than that.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 05:28 GMT
#710
That is a very cute interaction

Thank you 😊 ❤️
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 14:16 GMT
#736
HF is good as town or he has been when I play.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 14:27 GMT
#737
Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 15:16 GMT
#744
On August 21 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote:
Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.




Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa??


I gave her the benefit of the doubt and tried to see her perspective, remember last game when we killed our cop?

I like to sit down and think if it could be possible.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 15:24 GMT
#745
Q: Hey Cake, in your last games... did people call rayn mafia and build cases against him?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Did you call him town?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Was he town?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Were you town in those games?

Cake: Yes.

- shrugs -

I think he is town here also.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 17:16 GMT
#758
Rayn is town, why are you doubting him now? Because he “handed in” Ewya?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 17:44 GMT
#776
On August 22 2019 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if rayn bussed eywa tbh. That's why eywa ignores any evidence based case rayn makes and just says it should be obvious rayn is mafia when nobody is particularly looking that way at rayn. Poor play if it is.


@HF

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 19:42 GMT
#804
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 21:38 GMT
#818
Stop.

Stop.

Stop.

🛑


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 21:46 GMT
#821
You dont change votes just like if it was underwear.

The case was done, makes sense, look at the reactions of Ewya.

Why do you want to change it?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 22:01 GMT
#823
It is what people call "a paranoid town", you don't trust people that help you and clear you, have a tunnel vision and you do your own thing even if others disagree.

I relate a lot to his PoV in how he sees things.

[image loading]
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 22:03 GMT
#824
Either way, just focus on what is good for town and that is to lynch Ewya, if you want to find the other scum, good! Because that is what we should be doing but Ewya has to die.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 22:45 GMT
#831
On August 22 2019 07:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 07:03 CopCake wrote:
Either way, just focus on what is good for town and that is to lynch Ewya, if you want to find the other scum, good! Because that is what we should be doing but Ewya has to die.


Just saying its good for town doesn't necessarily make it so. In my eyes its good for town to kill mafia right now. Voting for mafia is therefore good for town.

I actually like eywa's reaction to being lynched. The focus on rayn, hf and myself is the townie thing to do given that he thinks we are scum and the way he mentions comparing reads at the end of the game also is the kind of thing town eywa would say.
Mafia eywa was more focused on everyone else being bad instead of thinking his reads were better than everyone elses. These are only little things but they are in eywa's favour compared to branch who imo has no redeeming features. I also think eywa was going inevitably going to die this game because his mafia and town games are so similar and he won as mafia in the last game. That doesn't make him more likely to be scum.

Also it kinda feels like everyone's just lynching with the biggest grandest case in the thread instead of looking at people objectively. There's nothing bad for town in re-evaluating that and if no-one provides a reasonable alternative vote we are just going to sleepwalk to whoever was the biggest wagon the whole time.

This happened a bunch of times in the last game on here, everyone just got on a wagon and stayed there and honestly I think in that game almost everyone on the lynch was doubting it by the end of each day but didn't want to offend town by changing so we ended up with mislynch after mislynch.

I'm asking everyone to re-evaluate. Don't just vote for eywa because there's a big shiny case with a picture. If people look at it again and decide eywa is a better lynch, so be it. Squishy is a better lynch imo. Lynch the most likely scum.


ALSO COPCAKE:
Your point about paranoid town makes zero sense because the second time you defended him he changed his read on you from scum to hard town so he isn't even playing the game by his own rules in that case.


Dude, he told you that he liked I didn't got angry when he pointed the gun at me because yes is true that I defended him but I had good intentions.

Mafia would had gotten mad and offended.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 23:00 GMT
#838
On August 22 2019 07:46 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 07:45 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2019 07:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 22 2019 07:03 CopCake wrote:
Either way, just focus on what is good for town and that is to lynch Ewya, if you want to find the other scum, good! Because that is what we should be doing but Ewya has to die.


Just saying its good for town doesn't necessarily make it so. In my eyes its good for town to kill mafia right now. Voting for mafia is therefore good for town.

I actually like eywa's reaction to being lynched. The focus on rayn, hf and myself is the townie thing to do given that he thinks we are scum and the way he mentions comparing reads at the end of the game also is the kind of thing town eywa would say.
Mafia eywa was more focused on everyone else being bad instead of thinking his reads were better than everyone elses. These are only little things but they are in eywa's favour compared to branch who imo has no redeeming features. I also think eywa was going inevitably going to die this game because his mafia and town games are so similar and he won as mafia in the last game. That doesn't make him more likely to be scum.

Also it kinda feels like everyone's just lynching with the biggest grandest case in the thread instead of looking at people objectively. There's nothing bad for town in re-evaluating that and if no-one provides a reasonable alternative vote we are just going to sleepwalk to whoever was the biggest wagon the whole time.

This happened a bunch of times in the last game on here, everyone just got on a wagon and stayed there and honestly I think in that game almost everyone on the lynch was doubting it by the end of each day but didn't want to offend town by changing so we ended up with mislynch after mislynch.

I'm asking everyone to re-evaluate. Don't just vote for eywa because there's a big shiny case with a picture. If people look at it again and decide eywa is a better lynch, so be it. Squishy is a better lynch imo. Lynch the most likely scum.


ALSO COPCAKE:
Your point about paranoid town makes zero sense because the second time you defended him he changed his read on you from scum to hard town so he isn't even playing the game by his own rules in that case.


Dude, he told you that he liked I didn't got angry when he pointed the gun at me because yes is true that I defended him but I had good intentions.

Mafia would had gotten mad and offended.


Do you even scum read me? You haven't really voiced an opinion on my play.



You have a "semi case" against Rayn; your biggest scum read, and you don't even read what he writes about you?

Yeah my vote is ok where it is.

On August 22 2019 07:45 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
There is a case from Rayn on Eywa that has a timeline inconsitency that has NOT been answered at all by Eywa and he skirts around it repeatedly. He only has been doing this thing now because his previous plan was failing and even still 0 of what he says was content!

Squishy is probably the other mafia sure but Eywa is mafia and you should be lynching him. If nothing more to get rayn to play and post content?

To be honest, I actually haven't read it.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 03:15 GMT
#864
Cheeeziiiiinuuu
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 03:35 GMT
#868
That sounds scummy as fuck.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 03:40 GMT
#870
You should lynch the one that is mafia, aka Ewya, why do you wanna touch Chez when it is like an entity you can't read at all?

But more inclined to say he is town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 04:04 GMT
#872
On August 22 2019 12:59 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 12:40 CopCake wrote:
You should lynch the one that is mafia, aka Ewya, why do you wanna touch Chez when it is like an entity you can't read at all?

But more inclined to say he is town.


Have you played with him? Is his posts always like this regardless of alignment? Because I don’t think I will ever get a read on him


First time but he claims to be a reaction seeker. I cant really read him but by tone he seems... town?

I think my mind changed when he talked to me directly and explained his playstyle.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 14:22 GMT
#904
Welp
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 17:40 GMT
#909
Dont worry squishy you are town to me.

Rayn take my hand and let’s talk.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 18:06 GMT
#910
@HF

How is rayn back to your scumpile if his case was good?

Just a question.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 18:51 GMT
#913
On August 23 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 03:06 CopCake wrote:
@HF

How is rayn back to your scumpile if his case was good?

Just a question.


He spent most of his precious morning time re-summing up the case on a town flipped Eywa. Pointless.


He was fighting Jock 🤷🏽‍♀️ for his change of vote, you did the same pre flip.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 19:28 GMT
#915
On August 23 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 03:51 CopCake wrote:
On August 23 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 23 2019 03:06 CopCake wrote:
@HF

How is rayn back to your scumpile if his case was good?

Just a question.


He spent most of his precious morning time re-summing up the case on a town flipped Eywa. Pointless.


He was fighting Jock 🤷🏽‍♀️ for his change of vote, you did the same pre flip.


But I am almost certain Jock said he thought Eywa was still scum too? Why does that even matter. I just asked rayn why he wasn't calling me mafia anymore and he basically listed most of the game as his scummy reads lol.

Then he even has squishy in there while arguing with jock about why he was voting squishy over a guy that flipped town when jock's response is people afkd on the wagon and he got a gut feeling from Eywa's tone.


Why as town would you change your vote on someone who acts mafia? And besides has a very good case against him? That two top tier veterans finally agreed on? It looks to ME that he never bought you guys were town in the first place.

He is as making the questions, depending on his answer he can figure out if he is mafia or not. I mean... what else can he do?

About his change of heart with you, I am not him so I cant answer that but I have a guy feeling of why.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 20:00 GMT
#919
I dont understand your last post.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 20:01 GMT
#920
If you think it is HF + Jock why dont you fight them?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 20:29 GMT
#925
So rayn, are you home now?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 20:50 GMT
#927
Ok, so for you the only teams possible are:

Chezinu + everyone in the game
Preferably:
HF
Jock
Squishy

That leaves as town in your world:
Cake
FF

Why don't you take Chezinu out of the equation (Not that I am saying he is town) but he is pretty much "unreadable" or at least "not helpful" and tell me, if you had the power to kill one person, who it would be? From the HF/Squishy/Jock.



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 20:59 GMT
#929
Ugh, I'll just throw what I actually think.

If Ewya flipped mafia (which I was sure) my suspicious would be that he was mafia with HF for something FF said that what he did was something he would do and it didn't look that odd. It was fucking weird how suddenly he read you as your "town bro" .That or Chezinu,

My other team combo is FF and Jock, mostly because they seem to fight and push an agenda, it is like they are carrying sword and dance with them trying to sell it as if it was a big discussion like the battle of the bastards.

My two cents.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:06 GMT
#932
The thing is that your case with Ewya was pretty good which is why I was sure he would flip mafia, besides the hypocrisy to say that flip associations was garbage but continued to say "possible teams are rayn and hf", etc, which is put me red light on HF when he changed his mind about you but rn I am like - shrugs -

With Chezinu I understand the whole "reaction tester" because I am like that, you know the whole "moon power", but if he doesn't bring his ass here and actually talk, well...

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:06 GMT
#933
On August 23 2019 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 05:59 CopCake wrote:
My other team combo is FF and Jock, mostly because they seem to fight and push an agenda, it is like they are carrying sword and dance with them trying to sell it as if it was a big discussion like the battle of the bastards.

what do you mean by pushing an agenda?


They tried to get me lynched but you defended me. They have done that shit several times during the game, not just with me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:09 GMT
#934
well, not lynched but you know... prepare the wood to get me burn and wait for the others to follow.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:17 GMT
#936
On August 23 2019 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2019 06:06 CopCake wrote:
On August 23 2019 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2019 05:59 CopCake wrote:
My other team combo is FF and Jock, mostly because they seem to fight and push an agenda, it is like they are carrying sword and dance with them trying to sell it as if it was a big discussion like the battle of the bastards.

what do you mean by pushing an agenda?


They tried to get me lynched but you defended me. They have done that shit several times during the game, not just with me.

What is the point of them doing it as mafia pair? It's not like either of them has been in danger of being lynched. Whay do they feel the need to do that based on the situation their team is on assuming they are mafia?


Uh, get a misslynch? That is what mafia does during the day? Build a case and get people lynched? Put seeds of doubt?



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:24 GMT
#938
On August 23 2019 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All in on same person, and when that doesn't work all in on another person?


Yup, they look coordinated also their fight seemed fake.

But that is just me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 22 2019 21:37 GMT
#940
On August 23 2019 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you direct me to a post where their fight starts.
I am sorry i dont believe that's what they would do as mafia.


From post #553 is "their fight"
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/550431-v-a-p-o-r-w-a-v-e-mafia?page=28


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 12:56 GMT
#962
It is rayn and HF or Rayn and Chezinu

No way in hell Rayn survives two nights.

No way in hell HF survives two nights.

They should have gotten something by now.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 15:38 GMT
#964
It could be HF and Chezinu my bad not adding that

Ughhhh, the problem is that I have played with rayn several times and I have seen him rage like that as town twice when he is about to get lynched because he haaaateeeesssssss when people call him mafia for things like “you are afk” but at this time, ughhhdhsjshshshshjssjsbsb.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 16:09 GMT
#967
On August 24 2019 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i am mafia because:

- i play like i typically play, only that this time i am for sute faking it

- i am alive, it definitely makes me mafia because me and hf are never alive after n2, but it doesnt make hf mafia. Only applies to me.

- i am mafia because i questioned jock

Sadly at least one of these people are town. And then people wonder why i said i am not gonna play anymore. Well this was the last site that actually played mafia, and even that is now gone.


I said it also applies to you and look at the post before you!!!!

Your sad face is like djejdhdjdhfjdhfjfjsjsnnsbdd stop!

Who is scum and why?

Imagine this is your last shot, who is scum?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 16:10 GMT
#968
I can only trust myself rn

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 17:09 GMT
#970
I am going to vote HF.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 17:44 GMT
#977
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 17:46 GMT
#979
FF’s death means it is at least one veteran.

Or two...

That is a fact.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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August 23 2019 17:52 GMT
#987
I am not afraid, make a case.

And I do think squishy is town, mafia tends to blend in and he hasnt. He is very vocal and even with the heat he never lost his cool nor shipped anyone.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 17:56 GMT
#997
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

Also dont come with that HF that you were first, FF called you out with the whole “that is something I can see HF doing to his scummate” and about the whole Rayn “he has raged as mafia” I am talking from MY experience and why didnt you brought that earlier? You even said “I hope you are town because if not I will lose respect”?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 18:03 GMT
#1001
On August 24 2019 03:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

I don't think so. That's not saying much though chezinu hasn't interacted with me neither and probably a coupleof other people (I'm literally offended by this).

Checking through chez's filter there are some mild interactions, probably as many if not more than with anyone else to be honest.


He interacted with me, a little bit with Ewya when he believed it was a woman and I guess with squishy?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 18:05 GMT
#1004
On August 21 2019 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Call this tinfoil or whatever but this is definitely the kind of post HF would make against his partner


I am the biggest liar and making shit up 🤥
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 18:08 GMT
#1006
On August 24 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
And I blanket called Rayn town because it's a fucking dick move under no pressure to emo QQ that he hates this website because of people pushing him and other people not playing. He was rude as fuck to people that keep this site alive. I will still blindly call him town if we have to lynch him and he flips mafia too because I will have absolutely no respect for him if he had to resort to some emotional post insulting people instead of playing mafia and trying to counter points (VALID POINTS) against him.

He made a fabricated case on me N1 and his post literally got me to stop pushing him because of that appeal. You should go re-read that interaction again because it would have ended up with him being lynched the next day at that rate.


Yeah it would be a dick move (very big one) which is why I doubt it is a lie.

Care to quote me games when he has been mafia and done the same?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 18:31 GMT
#1015
I am at work, when I get home I'll re read the whole thread and make a time line.

I invite you HF to make a case against me if you want, I am not afraid.

But being a work doesn't mean I won't post or lurk, just that I can't make a big ass case with posts and I think rn I can't go with "I remember this", I need the facts.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 18:37 GMT
#1017
I need to reread to see if I missread, sorry.

I want to do things myself.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:19 GMT
#1038
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


Yes, it is a smart move actually.

I
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:20 GMT
#1040
No lynch is the best thing tbh.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:44 GMT
#1045
On August 24 2019 04:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
OK well I'm voting chezinu for now.
If a cop comes forward then I'll think about a no lynch.

At the moment its all just maybes.


🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:45 GMT
#1046
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:46 GMT
#1047
I am dumb, someone explain me that?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:52 GMT
#1050
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 20:07 GMT
#1057
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


Jockmcplop * Hollare * Chezinu * raynpelikoneet * CopCake * reps)squishy

From this, two are mafia

4 vs 2

two persons die if it is true that mafia gets two shots.

2 vs 2

what's the point?

Aghhh

But we if misslynch we are also doomed.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 20:27 GMT
#1068
...


...


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 20:46 GMT
#1084
How am I scumhunting rn I am the most useless person here
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 21:10 GMT
#1096
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 21:12 GMT
#1097
Chezinu is good to see you not writing in riddles btw.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 21:24 GMT
#1107
On August 24 2019 06:19 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote?


Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story?

I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly...


I feel very very very very offended

- shows tongue -
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 21:47 GMT
#1114
Squishy are you still here?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:01 GMT
#1121
On August 24 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.

Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned.


How do you know this?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:02 GMT
#1123
On August 24 2019 06:48 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.


Copcake, what do you think about HF?


He is not as cool as other games in scumhunting.

I think he wants the cop to out himself.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:06 GMT
#1128
Sadly I am not the cop
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:08 GMT
#1132
I was actually thinking it was squishy because the whole “I am lynching someone else”
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:09 GMT
#1134
On August 24 2019 07:08 Chezinu wrote:
of course... what if the mafia themselves didn't know that there was 2 kp tonight?


This is dumb the hosts should tell them.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:11 GMT
#1138
On August 24 2019 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
Well I don't believe you but you can hold on to your reads if you want. If you have two people checked that are alive and one of them is me I will never ever forgive you for not revealing them.


I am not the cop

🤷🏽‍♀️

The first thing I would do would be to check on rayn and you see me today, doubting him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:19 GMT
#1144
No HF I am not the cop, I picked rayn as town over you because I doubt like pretty HIGH that he wouldnt rage quit like that as town, besides I know he is busy irl.

I didnt want to say it but there.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:22 GMT
#1147
What if the cop is squishy and he read Chezinu?

Would explain why he understands him?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 22:40 GMT
#1151
If I am right and squishy is the cop then...

HF
Jock
Rayn
Chezinu

Not clearing Chezinu because squishy could still be insane cop
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 23:13 GMT
#1156
Who else is here?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 23:19 GMT
#1159
On August 24 2019 08:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 08:13 CopCake wrote:
Who else is here?


Pst. I'm over here!


Do you have popcorn?

This will be good.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 05:21 GMT
#1170
Is someone here?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 05:50 GMT
#1172
On August 24 2019 14:31 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Is someone here?


Oops, wrong thread apologies!


.........?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 15:05 GMT
#1197
On August 24 2019 23:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why people arent voting for squishy?


Explain that?

Because
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 15:05 GMT
#1198
On August 24 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.


This
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 15:06 GMT
#1199
On August 24 2019 16:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't really want to vote squishy. I think its because I already spent so long picking on him and he only just got townread. I'm not as excited about his potential slip last night as hf is. Squishy's explanation looks real to me.



And this
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:08 GMT
#1203
well squishy hasnt been back and tbh as town you would be raging/getting mad/etc when the game is close to end and the frustation would make you get mad and say shit if you are up for a lynch.

Is this his first time as mafia tho? Because you dont make things like “hohoho i dont think ewya is mafia is ff or jock”, I mean I understand his pov because I found you and ff to have a lot of chemistry / coordinated.

The reason I think you are mostly town (98%, you could be a very very good mafia) is that you brought up the whole 2nk, I mean like hell I would have known that and it changed the game to make town work harder and actually pay attention. It fits with your personality that you take care of details (the whole I did filters for you guys).

Chezinu... Chezinu took action when squishy was getting fired but ughhhhh well the question is... lets say if your mafia buddy is getting lynched... shouldnt you act casually normal and follow? To blend in? When you are unreadable? It would put your game in danger.

HF, he is the one I am more paranoid of. I do think he has the ability to fool everyone while looking townie. I do like that he brought up the cop cases, the possible night actions, etc. But would he do that as mafia also? That is where is my mind and I am tinfoiling.

Rayn is mostly town because of his rage wall, I want to believe he wouldnt do that as AtE.

Now... you see people like Ewya, Vivax I think etc who called him out. I need to know by local players if you have misslynched rayn? Recently? Because if the answer is yes that would explain his frustation.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:08 GMT
#1204
Also I am not a cop even if Rayn implied it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:17 GMT
#1206
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:23 GMT
#1209
On August 25 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 01:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.



It was complicated i don't think he was afk. lots of factors, but people didn't take his offensive drunk posting as town the way they probably should have done (me included!)


:D

Drunk rage rayn tends to be town ahahahahaha, one time he was afk in a game and people found it weird so near the lynch result he got online drunk and rage like a complete word document. Lesson is never ever think afk Rayn is mafia. You can question it but never take it as a fact.

The problem is that people gets busy so there is no much where to dig.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:28 GMT
#1211
But why does he follow HF lead if he is pissed at him? Or do I miss remember?

I am on phone let me filter quick.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:32 GMT
#1213
Page 5 has all chezinu vs HF until HF earned his town badge but now...

On August 24 2019 07:08 Chezinu wrote:
of course... what if the mafia themselves didn't know that there was 2 kp tonight?



Can we ask the hosts if mafia knew since the beginning they got two night kills?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:37 GMT
#1217
Ok, before I go all mafia chezinu mode

Can you link where squishy explained his “this is why I knew mafia had two shots”?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:19 GMT
#1227
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


No...

I have to keep it simple.

He didn't use "IF" like the second sentence.

He was sure.

Besides he is against the no lynch, which is like... give us one town member alive to avoid the misslynch.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:19 GMT
#1228
I don't understand, if we misslynch mafia gets only one NK?

What?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:23 GMT
#1229
I was excusing squishy because Jock brought up the whole thing first, but reading carefully it looks like he was confirming it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:31 GMT
#1233
On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.

WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?

I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.

Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case.


My mind.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:32 GMT
#1234
I mean, he looks like he knows the mechanics...

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:32 GMT
#1235
Even tho Ewya didn't get auto killed.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 17:36 GMT
#1238
I solved the GAME I AM PROUD OF ME :D

wait for post
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:03 GMT
#1241
Chezinu on August 20 wrote this:

On August 21 2019 12:20 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:15 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.


I'm glad we both agree you aren't game solving.


Geez.. your talk is so hard it seems like you are a cop or something. Guess that is what happens when you kill the good cop!!! You shouldn't have killed his cop buddy.


Then this low-key claiming cop

On August 21 2019 13:19 Chezinu wrote:
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -
4. W A R D E R
5. V I V A X
6. CC H E Z I N U
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y


1 of 3 mafia
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -


1 of 4 mafia
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y



On August 24 2019 05:47 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:46 CopCake wrote:
How am I scumhunting rn I am the most useless person here

You are a reaction reader like me.


Here is a hypothesis:
squishy killed FF because he misread what I said about him and ended up killing the guy who had trouble reading (aka FF) because he thought he was blue.


Have in mind that is HIS hypothesis, but only decides to LUNCH Squishy when HF slipped thing but then he defends him?

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.



But now getting back to the Cop thing.

On August 24 2019 06:16 Chezinu wrote:
Yeah, if there is a cop. HF should know. Could you shed some light on who you think are together HF?


Why does he use IF THERE IS A COP???? Like if he didnt know? was he more way to use IF because the way Squishy got tunneled and called out?

I think that the only person during the whole game who has been trying to fish the fucking Cop is him.

Like c'mon. Even in older posts you are so obsessed with the cop.

On August 21 2019 12:12 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:06 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
Good chat guys.

Look, I don't really see any point in refuting what you have to say because it's nonsense. You're like... Ripping me for voting one scum read over another scum read calling it inconsistency.

The rest of your case is that my posting quality is low. I mean, it's obviously the same as any of the other games I played on this site. I don't see my posting quality here as being alignment indicative at all.


You should claim cop and state that you checked rayn...


You said cases were scummy and you had a case... That was a cruel blow. Now is the time to get creative and combat harsh logical and grammatical arguments with imagination! Just cause he proved an inconsistent statement, doesn't me you have to go down as scum. You got to be like I CAN R INCONSISTS AS TOWNIE TOO!!! And be like I Just R Crazy Town!!!

I would try that at least... it it doesn't work, you can always try another strategy.


Besides it fits to keep rayn alive for a misslynch, he claims he doesn't have a read on him but he is all rayn is mafia earlier.
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


The worst is that he hasn't gotten a "solid" read, like he also said that squishy and me are a team.



And then suddenly I am town, for "scum hunting" when I wasn't even doing shit but just trying to get tones. THIS is when I am actually scum hunting for real.
On August 24 2019 05:38 Chezinu wrote:
Who are yous?

Jockmcplop - UK
raynpelikoneet
reps)squishy

Noticably scum hunting:

Holyflare - UK
Chezinu
CopCake


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:06 GMT
#1243
Chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:09 GMT
#1247
I mean, does mafia know the set up?

Or they found out when warder died?

That would explain the hunting for the cop during the whole game and that would be VERY mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:10 GMT
#1249
On August 25 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tell me one good reason why i should not vote for squishy, because he said he knew mafia has 2 kp next night


Did you read my old post????
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:11 GMT
#1250
On August 25 2019 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


No...

I have to keep it simple.

He didn't use "IF" like the second sentence.

He was sure.

Besides he is against the no lynch, which is like... give us one town member alive to avoid the misslynch.



This.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:12 GMT
#1251
On August 25 2019 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc they do know their kp lol


kp?

you mean the set up?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:15 GMT
#1252
In before I am super dumb for my cop theory with Chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:26 GMT
#1258
On August 25 2019 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:15 CopCake wrote:
In before I am super dumb for my cop theory with Chezinu.

yes you are


Why?

You also think it is chezinu x squishy?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:31 GMT
#1265
What is this shit WTF is happening

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:33 GMT
#1268
On August 25 2019 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i honestly think you are the other mafia HF.



So who are mafia

HF and Squishy?
HF and chezinu?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:41 GMT
#1278
Ok if that is a cop claim it makes more sense to lynch squishy
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 18:55 GMT
#1296
I attacked chezinu, I take the blame for it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:03 GMT
#1311
I am here too Jock
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:08 GMT
#1325
This game is insane.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:30 GMT
#1340
What do you want me to do?

I was buying food for today and tomorrow.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:39 GMT
#1345
@the others

What are the probablities of HF being mafia?

The question is mostly for you Jock.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:46 GMT
#1353
On August 25 2019 04:06 Chezinu wrote:
What if we have another blue role instead of a cop?


How am I not lynching this or is he just trolling?

I am re reading the drama btw.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#1356
Ok so let me get this clear

6 players.
Chez * Cake * Rayn * HF * Squishy * Jock

If we dont lynch at night have

2 dead persons, lets say Jock and Cake who are town reads

That would leave

2 mafia vs 2 townies

Isnt it End game either way if we misslynch today?????????

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 20:00 GMT
#1362
On August 25 2019 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.


You have literally 0 idea how to read me then. I don't think his explanation was awful at all and the last paragraph sounded townie even. After I'd just hard claimed vt he seemed sad to lose the game for town. Seemed legit to me.

Then I just stopped caring because cop strung me along for 7 hours and didn't claim cop and I've been out all day.

so you want to lynch him or jock?


If it's the choice between the two, then I will keep my vote on squishy.


So you do NOT suspect rayn to be mafia then?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 20:04 GMT
#1365
On August 25 2019 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i gotta be at work in 6 hrs.. Don't deviate pls.


Did you get all the info you wanted now?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 20:08 GMT
#1367
Ok so Jock yo

Do you think the cop did good outing himself?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 20:19 GMT
#1370
I am having so many troubles rn >~<

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 20:26 GMT
#1371
Ok so end of the story

Is chez and squishy right?

Just like the fucking beginning.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 22:17 GMT
#1375
On August 25 2019 06:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 05:26 CopCake wrote:
Ok so end of the story

Is chez and squishy right?

Just like the fucking beginning.


Why are you not voting wtf?


It is my bday weekend ):

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:05 GMT
#1404
Tbh I want to lynch chezinu
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:06 GMT
#1405
Rayn doesn't know his sanity and we are fucked if we misslynch, I think my case on chezinu is good and he is the only one who has been fishing for the cop, now he is acting all dumb saying he doesn't know the set up.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:10 GMT
#1408
@HF

Town bro help a birthday sister here

Read Chezinu's filter which is not that big

Look how he interacts with Ewya

He also was about to change votes because "he believed he was a girl"

He almost fucked up the train, why?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:11 GMT
#1409
On August 25 2019 09:10 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 09:06 CopCake wrote:
Rayn doesn't know his sanity and we are fucked if we misslynch, I think my case on chezinu is good and he is the only one who has been fishing for the cop, now he is acting all dumb saying he doesn't know the set up.


Even during regular games reading OP is hard. Hidden OP are even harder.

Hey, if I was mafia, I would have troll claimed already.


You know the set up the moment you wrote COP SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE WHOLE THREAD



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:16 GMT
#1412
On August 19 2019 03:31 Vivax wrote:
I completely forgot about playing with squishy, I even scumread him correctly on Day 1. His town game by comparison had blander posts.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database

Either way, he hasn't done as much this game as in his other two games. He had 3 pages in his town game before being lynched D1.


I can live with this also.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 00:21 GMT
#1414
On August 25 2019 09:20 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 09:06 CopCake wrote:
Rayn doesn't know his sanity and we are fucked if we misslynch, I think my case on chezinu is good and he is the only one who has been fishing for the cop, now he is acting all dumb saying he doesn't know the set up.


I know myself to be VT. You have town read me for a good bit of this game. Let's lynch Jock, I know my post where I was trying to comprehend nk is suspicious, but you can see I really did not know what I was talking about. We can win this! Or we can train on me and lose.


The problem is that Jock is fucking town for mentioning the two kills.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 01:29 GMT
#1439
On August 25 2019 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
If there was a cop that wasn't rayn and you did not claim and we are blindly lynching Squishy because Rayn said so then you better fucking hurry up and get your fingers out of your arses.


I am cop.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 01:30 GMT
#1440
On August 25 2019 10:08 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
If there was a cop that wasn't rayn and you did not claim and we are blindly lynching Squishy because Rayn said so then you better fucking hurry up and get your fingers out of your arses.


Rayn told people not believe me if I were to claim after he went to sleep.

Now that we know that there are likely a sane cop, insane cop, 2 goon, and a 2 kp night 3, We gotz to follow the rayn.

This means tomorrow: squishy dead, rayn dead, and possibly jock dead.

So it is me, you, and little miss cupcake over there. Who is the last mafia?


You already knew there is a cop so nope.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 01:48 GMT
#1444
Host, the mafia knew that they had 2kp?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 01:49 GMT
#1445
Host, the mafia knew they had the 2kp?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 05:24 GMT
#1458
Yeah, I believed he knew I was cop and that sure squishy was mafia and wanted to die next night to give town a shot.

Never came to my mind that the wall of text was bullshit.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 25 2019 20:09 GMT
#1495
Yeah I checked Ewya and I was torn between FF and Jock.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 26 2019 04:08 GMT
#1515
It is just a game, people need to relax.
I feel embarrased a little bit but I know my “moon magic” logic is not taken seriously.

The first person ever to call out Jock was me for his “ he is doing filters to look town” and I got shut down.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 26 2019 15:01 GMT
#1523
I actually love to host more than to play.

And I love to be mafia more than town.
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