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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 07:31 GMT
#541
On August 20 2019 15:26 reps)squishy wrote:
Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next?


Thinking about it, no it wouldn't, that's a stupid mafia plan. Not that mafia don't have stupid plans.
You aren't even a natural lynch candidate this cycle so it makes no sense for mafia to do that. Pretty much no-one was scumreading you.
I wouldn't have scumread you off the NK alone either and no-one else should. If that was the mafia plan its an awful plan.

On August 20 2019 15:34 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 15:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 20 2019 15:26 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 20 2019 15:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 20 2019 15:10 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 04:46 Vivax wrote:
On August 19 2019 04:28 CopCake wrote:
Ok vivax

Give me your town reads


You can have my scumreads: Rayn and squishy


Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that


Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest.

If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors:

If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him.

Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn.

I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it.


You’re cocky. Go for me your stats will take a hit.

I went for rayn, then read Vivax’s filter because I can trust him more now. His reads could be wrong, you’re right

Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next?


I'm still entertaining this as a possibility, yeah. The thing is no-one else has been pointing at you really so I don't think that would be a good strategy. You're one of the least scumread people here now that Vivax is gone. Not that night kills are always based on good strategy.

The fact that you were already going for rayn at the same time as Vivax died, and then tried to use that death to confirm it makes it look worse for you though imo.


You say “coincidence I think not!”

I say coincidence


Not much I can say to this to be honest, I'll let other people judge.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:12 GMT
#542
Rip Vivax, sad he predicted his own death so now...

1.- Vivax died to blame someone (his read was right and the person will play the "they are using this to blame me")

2.- Vivax died to make some of his town reads look "locked" (aka he was right and got killed)

3.- Vivax died because one of the magia knows that he will figure them out asap on the second day (add here a list of frequent players)


I think is 3 with either 1 or 2.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:44 GMT
#543
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 13:45 GMT
#544
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:50 GMT
#545
On August 20 2019 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.


“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 13:52 GMT
#546
I also want to say is impossible to live in a world of HF/Rayn mafia team, Rayn would never ever make that post as mafia if HF was on his team, never, ever.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 13:55 GMT
#547
On August 20 2019 22:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.


“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?


Eywa wasn't here and hasn't played enough games with Vivax to clear him on meta. HF I'm not sure, ask hf, but don't say you don't know why we cleared him cos you do know that - you just don't want to accept the logic.
Which is fine but its not the same thing.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 13:56 GMT
#548
On August 20 2019 22:52 CopCake wrote:
I also want to say is impossible to live in a world of HF/Rayn mafia team, Rayn would never ever make that post as mafia if HF was on his team, never, ever.


This is interesting.
Who do you think are likely partners if you think rayn is mafia then?

What's the reasoning behind this point?
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:05 GMT
#549
On August 20 2019 22:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 22:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote:
Point to consider

HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1

Idk why the others did clear him asap tho


You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.


“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?


Eywa wasn't here and hasn't played enough games with Vivax to clear him on meta. HF I'm not sure, ask hf, but don't say you don't know why we cleared him cos you do know that - you just don't want to accept the logic.
Which is fine but its not the same thing.


You are missing the point

Why HF didnt clear Vivax? I guess he said somewhere in frustation that is a minimal read is considered “activity” then - shrugs -

He has played with him so so so many times.

I have played with him in the past before but I play once every red moon. I wouldnt feel sure a “meta” on him, not it wouldnt be ok for town.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 14:28 GMT
#550
HF pretty much did clear Vivax, he just said he could be wrong about it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:50 GMT
#551
Maybe I am being too nip ticky with the way he anf the others did.

To answer your question, I don’t know I cant see rayn as mafia in this game. The only one I want to lynch atm is FF.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 14:50 GMT
#552
Copcake why are you going on about this when Vivax was clearly in hf's town list?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 14:52 GMT
#553
You want to lynch FF?
I'm looking at squishy at the moment but I could feasibly see FF as a possibility too.

Its frustrating because we clearly need more information about people's stances but no-one's bothering to play the game at all.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 20 2019 14:59 GMT
#554
Why would you lynch FF? Asking for a friend.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 15:03 GMT
#555
On August 20 2019 23:59 CopCake wrote:
Why would you lynch FF? Asking for a friend.


PoE
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 15:03 GMT
#556
I'd much rather lynch squishy
RIP Meatloaf <3
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2019 15:23 GMT
#557
HF using poe to put me in a lynch pile early: that's cool he's been around the block and knows most of these players very well and I'm playing outside my meta


Jock using poe to put me in a lynch pile early: 🤮


You're confident in enough of your reads to have a poe list jock can you give me a list post ranking people towny to scummy thanks
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2019 15:29 GMT
#558
On August 20 2019 23:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
You want to lynch FF?
I'm looking at squishy at the moment but I could feasibly see FF as a possibility too.

Its frustrating because we clearly need more information about people's stances but no-one's bothering to play the game at all.

>Not enough information to determine alignments

>I have a PoE list

Pick one
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2019 15:31 GMT
#559
Eywa who else is scummy can we be townbros?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
August 20 2019 15:35 GMT
#560
On August 21 2019 00:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
HF using poe to put me in a lynch pile early: that's cool he's been around the block and knows most of these players very well and I'm playing outside my meta


Jock using poe to put me in a lynch pile early: 🤮


You're confident in enough of your reads to have a poe list jock can you give me a list post ranking people towny to scummy thanks


Towny to Scummy

Rayn
Hf
Copcake
Chez
FF
Eywa
Squishy

RIP Meatloaf <3
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