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CopCake
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Vivax
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Vivax
Austria20864 Posts
On July 23 2019 20:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tbh Koshi i will not let you play like you have past couple of games, i mean like "shitting on players" and making one-liners despite how good or bad they are. You are reasonably good player when youre town and you're gonna own it up here if you are town. I dont like your opening at all, because you have a huge ego and you saying you being lynched is okay doesn't sit well there, regardless of how busy you claim to be. I also don't like you calling both me and HF weird because regardless of what your conclusion of our argument is you should have one. Right now you don't have any, when in fact all the conclusions and thought processes of ours are in the thread, and that to me looks like you want to fuel the (useless and "solved") argument wothout taking any side on anything. It's at best shitty play. I have a gut feeling that Slam is town and FF is mafia. I can't really go further into that in a reasonable way but that's how i feel. Especially towards FF i even myself think my argument is shitty but yeah, that's how i feel at the moment. I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag. I also consider HF town for like 95% sure and i don't think i am gonna change my opinion on that in this game based on how fucking convoluted his assumed "town!argument" of his early posting would be in case he was mafia. I will say though if you are mafia this game i am going to vote for you in every single further game when you even imply you didn't read even one word in the OP. What he describes is what he's doing himself this game. Not throughout the entirety of his filter, but a significant part. Besides, his big post's good intentions also giving a lot of reads throughout it in his town game doesn't match his big post here. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Fecalfeast
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Chezinu
United States7376 Posts
Based on vapor waves... it doesn't seem like we will all be present in the day... at least not alive in this realm. Now as unappealing as these vaps are... there is a chance that they contain hidden messages... Who would want to decipher them? Yeah, that's the point. I enjoyed my encrypted fragments much better.. well of course because I made them. This is white noise... chances of message is low... perhaps with a similar style much is noise.. and there are a few gems of encrypted truth.. Time... the weapon to solve the encryptions.. Some thought it would be solved by solving for the primes.. but really.. all you need is time. if you have the time, you can have the key. But how to spend your time? Spend time to make time? Send a computer to the past to compute the answer in the present. Now that is a prime example of an unorthodox solution. | ||
Chezinu
United States7376 Posts
Shots were fired. I heard. Clashing waves were not in harmony.... They should have known the proper way to travel... You travel in harmony... If not, time will be needed to heal from the disharmony... Once was and was to be is no longer what is to be. Open mouth and directions change but inner self must proclaim. Speak truth. Enemies stir and fight. They plot to gain to find without. The truth tellers are protected. With them we know where we are. In all the worlds, they stay on top though it seems that are not. | ||
Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
D A Y 2 It is now day 2. Cast votes in the voting thread. Vivax has been found dead. He was town. Deadline is 05:00 GMT (+00:00) Which is in *Flavor when I’m less lazy. I’m | ||
Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
[B]On August 20 2019 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: [spoiler]So here is what happened at the start of the game. People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it). So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time. Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games. This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game? Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say.[/spoiler] The amount of effort is unusual. The try hardness of this seems scummy | ||
Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
On August 20 2019 14:00 Tubesock wrote: D A Y 2 It is now day 2. Cast votes in the voting thread. Vivax has been found dead. He was town. Deadline is 05:00 GMT (+00:00) Which is in https://youtu.be/FFrehuYAH4A *Flavor when I’m less lazy. I’m RIP reading your filter now. You were on to something. You’re wrong about me though | ||
Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
On August 18 2019 05:35 Vivax wrote: Anyway I'M off for today. Going to Trust my First impression and a bit on Top. ##Vote rayn Hmmm? His other scum read was me. I luckily know myself not to be scum. Then rayn’s last post looked real over the top to me, but I don’t know if you would be arguing with someone you would NK | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8726 Posts
On August 20 2019 14:02 reps)squishy wrote: RIP reading your filter now. You were on to something. You’re wrong about me though What you're saying is if you cherry pick Vivax's filter it confirms what you were already thinking? Seems you were very ready to go on that little theory as soon as the night kill came in though... | ||
Jockmcplop
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Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8726 Posts
On August 20 2019 15:10 reps)squishy wrote: Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest. If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors: If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him. Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn. I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8726 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
On August 20 2019 15:18 Jockmcplop wrote: Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest. If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors: If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him. Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn. I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it. You’re cocky. Go for me your stats will take a hit. I went for rayn, then read Vivax’s filter because I can trust him more now. His reads could be wrong, you’re right Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next? | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8726 Posts
On August 20 2019 15:26 reps)squishy wrote: You’re cocky. Go for me your stats will take a hit. I went for rayn, then read Vivax’s filter because I can trust him more now. His reads could be wrong, you’re right Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next? I'm still entertaining this as a possibility, yeah. The thing is no-one else has been pointing at you really so I don't think that would be a good strategy. You're one of the least scumread people here now that Vivax is gone. Not that night kills are always based on good strategy. The fact that you were already going for rayn at the same time as Vivax died, and then tried to use that death to confirm it makes it look worse for you though imo. | ||
Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
On August 20 2019 08:50 Vivax wrote: Btw don't assume I get NKd for my current reads this game. Too early for that and D1 has been crap information-wise. @Jock I am taking my tin foil assumptions with a grain of salt. He said it himself | ||
Mutaller
United States1007 Posts
On August 20 2019 15:31 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm still entertaining this as a possibility, yeah. The thing is no-one else has been pointing at you really so I don't think that would be a good strategy. You're one of the least scumread people here now that Vivax is gone. Not that night kills are always based on good strategy. The fact that you were already going for rayn at the same time as Vivax died, and then tried to use that death to confirm it makes it look worse for you though imo. You say “coincidence I think not!” I say coincidence | ||
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