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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 20:50 GMT
#501
On August 20 2019 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?

Probably not
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 20:51 GMT
#502
But HF wasnt I one of your locked town reads?

What changed?


You are asking and I am answering your questions about rayn, it is your perspective vs what other see. I am trying to see rayn’s posts with “the no effort you see” but it doesnt work. I mean remember our last game in which all mafia were afk? Both of you and myself had guns at each other and idk if it is the case here with you and him (I am trying to be open) .

The game should be fun for everyone.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 21:09 GMT
#503
On August 20 2019 05:51 CopCake wrote:
But HF wasnt I one of your locked town reads?

What changed?



You are asking and I am answering your questions about rayn, it is your perspective vs what other see. I am trying to see rayn’s posts with “the no effort you see” but it doesnt work. I mean remember our last game in which all mafia were afk? Both of you and myself had guns at each other and idk if it is the case here with you and him (I am trying to be open) .

The game should be fun for everyone.



When have I said otherwise?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 21:12 GMT
#504
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day.

That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy.

I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.

Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 19 2019 21:17 GMT
#505
What makes me mafia though?
Hint: it's nothing
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 19 2019 21:17 GMT
#506
Oh is that just poe
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2019 22:05 GMT
#507
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 19 2019 22:48 GMT
#508
On August 20 2019 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here is what happened at the start of the game.

People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it).

So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time.

Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games.

This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game?

Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say.


What should I say dude? Last games I played I had at least one mafia pointed out by the time I got N1d and not just that, I tried to stop both you and Palmar from being mislynched, and by the way you decided to throw the game by not claiming mason. Both of those mafias made it to endgame.

It's also toxic AF for the game that it has become possible to lynch obvious townies or obviously shitty lynches. Have you seen Palmar since? In your case you decided consciously to get mislynched.

So I tend to flail about pretty quickly when I see that trend of cba/lazyness/being busy coming up in you and HF, who also "grew up" with much more active games. And you don't get not to apply self criticism in all of that.

No matter what you say, up until this post your game has seemed uninterested, like when you replied to me about my scumread, and then you post an anti-town rant post that is within the range of emotional investment I could see from town rayn. Except that town rayn would want to make sure his mafia reads get lynched, and not that everyone who doesn't townread him gets shat on.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 22:50 GMT
#509
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 22:52 GMT
#510
Also, that much AtE is really bad from town!Rayn and he should know better.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 22:53 GMT
#511
So... All signs point to scum!rayn
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 19 2019 23:01 GMT
#512
Even if you are town and right on HF, rayn, you are not going to catch him this night with that argument by both doing your own metric of what legwork is.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 19 2019 23:08 GMT
#513
On August 20 2019 01:51 Vivax wrote:
What if Chez actually always tells the truth as both alignments, but disguises it as nonsense? :o


How did you know my meta? Did I reveal it to you? Been trolling the truth on these forums since 2008. I do joke about being a bank and stuff though,

I feel exposed now.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#514
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


I'm pretty sure I do the same thing every single game I've ever played.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 23:20 GMT
#515
On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.

also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk"


This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie.

On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.

Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock

It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.


In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him.

I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 23:21 GMT
#516
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 19 2019 23:24 GMT
#517
On August 20 2019 05:51 CopCake wrote:
The game should be fun for everyone.


Listen up, Mr.Madam CopCake.

My name is Chezinu Isunizehc. I have been assigned the case to find mafia scum. If you were bitten into... would be people think they are have a boy or a girl? If the answer is not a piece of cake... or if it is and it is not of useful color or taste (such as vanilla) then you need not answer the question without your attorney.

Ok... now to the more important matter. There is a mystery to your nationality... Tell me... which of the below photos looks like the image you see in the mirror??!?! Exhibit A or Exhibit B?

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ANSWER THE QUESTION CUPCAKE!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 23:28 GMT
#518
On August 20 2019 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


I'm pretty sure I do the same thing every single game I've ever played.

Pretty sure, but hard to tell when you're mafia?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 23:30 GMT
#519
On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

Omgus
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 19 2019 23:32 GMT
#520
I wouldn't be surprised if mafia were 2 of HF, Rayn and Jockmcplop.

The first two being prioritized there.
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