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On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing?
I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too.
FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious
Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote.
Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt.
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On July 30 2019 06:42 NoSmurfHere wrote:From Midnight Sun Mafia Show nested quote +On May 27 2019 18:58 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2019 18:09 disformation wrote:
oh ic. carry on then.
@koshi:
whats the case on calix again?
still 90% based on her entry post? Disfo. She needs to die. Come the fuck on. I will call you on Whatsapp after the goddamn game and explain it to you. I CBA to explain it now. For fucking sake. This is calix. No waves Shit conviction Shit reads Shit everything Kill her fast This is town koshi. Where has this koshi been? -J
Other games, amirite
Like I really do think he is scum here. Who da thot
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On July 30 2019 06:47 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing? I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too. FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote. Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt.
But why does what I say about the hydra matter when:
You have your own opinion on what the hydra QT posts meant originally.
You have a conclusive reason yesterday for them to be lock mafia that you didn't think to reconsider about.
You only just town read me for town reading the hydra and that's pretty much it?
It seems pretty weird to me that you'd sacrifice the first two points just because I looked like I was town confirming someone?
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Ok home from work. Gonna catch up, do a quick filter dive of the folks I mentioned last night, and try and figure out where my vote will be going. I think there's enough information here we should be able to solve this.
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On July 30 2019 06:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 06:47 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing? I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too. FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote. Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt. But why does what I say about the hydra matter when: You have your own opinion on what the hydra QT posts meant originally. You have a conclusive reason yesterday for them to be lock mafia that you didn't think to reconsider about. You only just town read me for town reading the hydra and that's pretty much it? It seems pretty weird to me that you'd sacrifice the first two points just because I looked like I was town confirming someone?
We can talk more to solve this tomorrow. I am too tired to reason.
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I actually think I had more game related posts this game than normal but hey.
Kinda disliking the branch slot now that it's apparent they're not new to mafia in the slightest.
Hf still town
If the golden god koshi doesn't come back soon I'll be sad
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@ FF what makes Koshi the 'golden god'? He's done absolutely nothing since D2.. I wanted to hang him then, even if it meant voting with my then m!Pand read, that hasn't changed.
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I've already said my thoughts.. You are saying here your don't have a reason to town read him but by your wording he's in top town?
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I want to know why, and more specifically how you got there..
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It's not really fun when he never shows up but I thought his response would be funny.
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Ok, but you've done this twice? now. Is he town to you then or you just trying to bait laughs?
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Haven't read last 180 posts. I am fine with getting lynched. I think I did enough for you to determine my alignment. Inthink I am happy with my 3 names. Maybe I can swap Pandain for Eversince but one has to make a decision.
If I read anything tomorrow it will be eywa to see if she is mafia and got me good d1.
If I get lynched, I also partly care if the hydra is mafia, because if they are I slightly feel bad for not seeing that while rayn saw it.
Other than that I would like to congratulate mafia for playing well in a very town favored set-up. Knowing town fucked up with their 3 innocent childs but hey... Still credit where credit is due.
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I will admit I read the few comments above mine and it brings a tear to my eye Instill have fans.
I love you to fefe.
If people wonder why I didnt play much today:
I had a nice dinner with my German collegue today in Brussels. We had a little tour and Brussels is one of the nicest cities to spend some hours in.
Today and tomorrow will be busy at work because we are implementing SAP in our company. And I am part of the team who has to implement it for finance.
Tomorrow I should have time when I get home but I really shouldnt spend much time playing mafia because I have other things to do like visiting my dad and iron my clothes so I have something to wear when I go on Holiday to France on Friday and this week is booked with stuff.
Also... I am bad at finding mafia now more than ever so I am not sure I am worth much.
I dont know why I shouldnt be seen as mafia. The best way is imo the thing HF said somewhere. And the fact you should read my posts as things I believe, and things I typed to push mafia agenda.
Anyway. That is for town to see.
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Ahhhh 2 typos. 1 very bad and 1 minor.
At the end it should of course be "the things I typed werent to push mafia agenda"
And the important mistake was
I love you too fefe.
Engrish is hard.
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I read Branch first, I'm not gonna go over the debate that we had about Koshi and the logic behind Smurf's Koshi push. I still believe Branch was being obtuse and not fully thinking through the implications of their reads. Furthermore, as many people have pointed out, this vote was trash:
On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town
And just because Branch acknowledges it does not exonerate him from making it.
On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up.
This right here is reaching to make connections in the extreme, which is funny because that's exactly what Branch accused me of doing when I tried to walk them through the logic behind his reads. The best thing HF has done this whole game has been to pull those logs from the Hydra. Since I townread the Hydra, Occam's razor says that HF is also town and simply looking to get a clearer picture. And Branch is trying to throw doubt on that.
On July 30 2019 03:49 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. Calling me scum entails coagulation claiming scum with first post and actually being scum. I don't know the man but I'm quite certain hes not that much of a cretin.
Yes I do believe he could be.
On July 30 2019 03:53 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:41 Alakaslam wrote:On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. See I am pretty sure Eywa has something to offer Your suspicion of me for a horrendous vote is warranted. As mentioned earlier this stems from me voting very rushed because I was short on time before deadline. If you read my filter you will realize that my entire game has been applying logic to finding scum.
And see this is something I've been having a problem with throughout Branch's filter. between his declaration regarding his lack of meta as well the extremely robotic tone (someone actually used this word to describe him and I agree), it feels like Branch is trying super hard to put up a facade of controlled logic and reason. Slam talked a bit about emotion earlier and it honestly would be a fun postgame discussion to get into in the Community thread about the role emotion plays in forum mafia. I personally believe that attempts at "Pure Logic & Reasoning" serve more as a hiding place for scum rather than a bastion of good town thought. Townies do stupid illogical things, too dumb to be scum is a phrase for a reason no matter how much I hate it. Scum is more likely to post in a controlled manner imo.
That was a lengthy paragraph about meta on a player who has already reminded us he has none so it's kinda useless to overall scumhunting but in the interest of transparency that's where part of my gut scum read of Branch comes from.
On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you.
This was a funny post to me because it sounded odd and I couldn't place it until I realized; it's a copy of a post in my filter:
On July 24 2019 21:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Tubesock, people wanna kill the hydra and I don't buy it, you're one of the few people critically thinking this game and you've scumread them. Spell it out for me like I'm stupid.
Part of me can't help but wonder if Branch has "logically deduced" that this is how I like to communicate as mafia and is trying to head off me scumreading him since it probably wasn't hard to deduce I was suspicious of him after our initial interaction.
On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours?
Again, people have already pointed out how bad this post is but since I'm here I'll throw in my two cents. For someone who has talked about the importance of voting your scumread (which I agree with!) Branch's hesitancy to say anything at all about HF is very strange. When responding to a post asking for reads Branch proceeds to throw out names with no reads. It goes back to the earlier questions I had for him in regards to his opinions of Koshi. He talks about how Koshi looks "guilty as hell" but then when I pushed him on it, he came back to say that he had never called Koshi scum. Branch likes to hide behind the technicality of never calling anyone "scum" (except for the hydra which at this point I think he's backed off of) and merely saying "suspicious".
This is all worth remembering because the last bit from Branch I don't like is his big list of reads:
On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town
This post takes no responsibility for the reads within it. Does he actually believe any of the suspicious people are scum? Who knows. Hell he even calls HF suspicious and then gives him a townread. This post and his play so far during this day cycle scream attempts at dodging responsibility. I don't have a problem with the questions that he's asked people in a vacuum, however when there is no follow up to the questions and seemingly no coherent push being made based on information gained from asking them, this falls under what I used to call "contributing without contributing" i.e. creating seemingly town content without actually having to make a stand on anything.
I didn't really come into this post certain one way or another of Branch's alignment but it was something that was bothering me yesterday before the lynch. Having had some time to sit down and go over things I'm fairly comfortable calling Branch scum. This also reinforces my scumread of Koshi because of Branch's chainsaw defense at the end of D2.
TL;DR If you don't want to read all of the post, my biggest and strongest argument for Branch being scum is the incredibly careful way he goes about avoiding making any real scumreads. Not only that but his attempt to lynch the hydra looks very much like a chainsaw defense of Koshi imo.
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So having reread the last 48 hours a few times in writing that bit on Branch I'm also gonna conditionally retract my scumread of Slam. I think Koshi is a significantly better lynch at this point and unlike Koshi, slam came back from his martyr and continued to try and play.
Pending my dive of Eywa and rereading the clusterfuck from yesterday yet again I've got Koshi and Branch as scum right now.
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It's actually incredibly hard to do an honest analysis of someone who has been calling you scum with literally nothing to back up the claims since like D1. I've kinda been ignoring most of what Eywa has said because I don't feel like giving the time of day when he doesn't have any reason aside from his gut (which helped get rayn killed). It's very tempting to OMGUS a case because this dude seems like a real asshole (hate when people talk about their home sites). But I agree with a couple points he's made today:
On July 30 2019 03:15 Eywa- wrote:You guys post too much... Holy fuck. FecalFeast has to be the lynch today, I mean... His filter is terrible, just keeps pushing random reads off of the main wagons, but doesn't actually push them hard enough to push them through. Then he calls other people scum for pushing mislynches. Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
i still think mason should claim because if mafia shoots mason that's a probable guaranteed cop check unless they hit the RB and or the miller Also, this feels a lot like PR hunting. WHERE DID THAT GUARANTEED COP CHECK GO? Oh... Y'all lynched it.
This is correct.
On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start.
This is correct.
As long as Eywa is gonna vote people who are scum and not me I'm not gonna scumread them for being a douchebag. I think his reasoning for not voting koshi is stupid because we really need to be lowering scum numbers ASAP but as long as we vote for one of Koshi or Branch I think we should be good. I need to really reread FF now because he's come up several times in other filters.
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On July 30 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I read Branch first, I'm not gonna go over the debate that we had about Koshi and the logic behind Smurf's Koshi push. I still believe Branch was being obtuse and not fully thinking through the implications of their reads. Furthermore, as many people have pointed out, this vote was trash: Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town And just because Branch acknowledges it does not exonerate him from making it. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. This right here is reaching to make connections in the extreme, which is funny because that's exactly what Branch accused me of doing when I tried to walk them through the logic behind his reads. The best thing HF has done this whole game has been to pull those logs from the Hydra. Since I townread the Hydra, Occam's razor says that HF is also town and simply looking to get a clearer picture. And Branch is trying to throw doubt on that. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. Calling me scum entails coagulation claiming scum with first post and actually being scum. I don't know the man but I'm quite certain hes not that much of a cretin. Yes I do believe he could be. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:53 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 03:41 Alakaslam wrote:On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. See I am pretty sure Eywa has something to offer Your suspicion of me for a horrendous vote is warranted. As mentioned earlier this stems from me voting very rushed because I was short on time before deadline. If you read my filter you will realize that my entire game has been applying logic to finding scum. And see this is something I've been having a problem with throughout Branch's filter. between his declaration regarding his lack of meta as well the extremely robotic tone (someone actually used this word to describe him and I agree), it feels like Branch is trying super hard to put up a facade of controlled logic and reason. Slam talked a bit about emotion earlier and it honestly would be a fun postgame discussion to get into in the Community thread about the role emotion plays in forum mafia. I personally believe that attempts at "Pure Logic & Reasoning" serve more as a hiding place for scum rather than a bastion of good town thought. Townies do stupid illogical things, too dumb to be scum is a phrase for a reason no matter how much I hate it. Scum is more likely to post in a controlled manner imo. That was a lengthy paragraph about meta on a player who has already reminded us he has none so it's kinda useless to overall scumhunting but in the interest of transparency that's where part of my gut scum read of Branch comes from. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. This was a funny post to me because it sounded odd and I couldn't place it until I realized; it's a copy of a post in my filter: Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 21:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Tubesock, people wanna kill the hydra and I don't buy it, you're one of the few people critically thinking this game and you've scumread them. Spell it out for me like I'm stupid. Part of me can't help but wonder if Branch has "logically deduced" that this is how I like to communicate as mafia and is trying to head off me scumreading him since it probably wasn't hard to deduce I was suspicious of him after our initial interaction. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours? Again, people have already pointed out how bad this post is but since I'm here I'll throw in my two cents. For someone who has talked about the importance of voting your scumread (which I agree with!) Branch's hesitancy to say anything at all about HF is very strange. When responding to a post asking for reads Branch proceeds to throw out names with no reads. It goes back to the earlier questions I had for him in regards to his opinions of Koshi. He talks about how Koshi looks "guilty as hell" but then when I pushed him on it, he came back to say that he had never called Koshi scum. Branch likes to hide behind the technicality of never calling anyone "scum" (except for the hydra which at this point I think he's backed off of) and merely saying "suspicious". This is all worth remembering because the last bit from Branch I don't like is his big list of reads: Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town This post takes no responsibility for the reads within it. Does he actually believe any of the suspicious people are scum? Who knows. Hell he even calls HF suspicious and then gives him a townread. This post and his play so far during this day cycle scream attempts at dodging responsibility. I don't have a problem with the questions that he's asked people in a vacuum, however when there is no follow up to the questions and seemingly no coherent push being made based on information gained from asking them, this falls under what I used to call "contributing without contributing" i.e. creating seemingly town content without actually having to make a stand on anything. I didn't really come into this post certain one way or another of Branch's alignment but it was something that was bothering me yesterday before the lynch. Having had some time to sit down and go over things I'm fairly comfortable calling Branch scum. This also reinforces my scumread of Koshi because of Branch's chainsaw defense at the end of D2. TL;DR If you don't want to read all of the post, my biggest and strongest argument for Branch being scum is the incredibly careful way he goes about avoiding making any real scumreads. Not only that but his attempt to lynch the hydra looks very much like a chainsaw defense of Koshi imo.
This is a great post. Why would we assume branch to be town?
But I think the points on Koshi to be stronger and he was so weird with me. How the hell did he know I was being a badass?
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