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Day Two Vote Count
Alakaslam (3): Eywa, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Pandain NoSmurfHere (3): FecalFeast, Tubesock, Chezinu, Branch.AUT, Koshi Koshi (3): NoSmurfHere, Eversince, Meapak_Ziphh Eywa (2): Tubesock, FecalFeast Chezinu (0): Koshi Meapak_Ziphh (0): Eywa, FecalFeast Pandain (0): Alakaslam, Koshi Tubesock (0): Chezinu FecalFeast (0): NoSmurfHere
Not Voting (1): Holyflare
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Lynch is wide open and these scummy martyring fucks are in here acting like its their final hour of the game and the votes are stacked against them.
Such BS scummy anti town play.
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Hey branch look at the other people who are on this wagon with you.
Are you comfortable with that?
-J
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I really like this Branch.AUT.
Voting NSH.
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Like Tube we may legit have two scum under the gun rn and you're going with your stupid tunnel.
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On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote: Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum. Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense.
Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more.
All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum.
You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time.
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I did read the last three pages. And the 47 before that.
I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere.
Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum.
Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is.
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On July 27 2019 23:10 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote: Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum. Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position.
But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment.
Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum)
That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him)
Think about the implications of your reads.
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On July 27 2019 23:12 Tubesock wrote: I did read the last three pages. And the 47 before that.
I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere.
Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum.
Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is. Smurf has literally put himself on the chopping block for Koshi.
Explain to me how that makes sense as scum. He could have sat back and ridden the slam lynch into the sunset if he was scum and slam was town.
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If hydra is scum there’s no downside from pushing off a town Slam who is mayrting. Slam is likely to lynch himself. Hydra can later say he wasn’t voting poor townSlam and trying to get mean ole dumb town to kill “mafia” Koshi. And then work in killing Koshi the next day.
If Slam doesn’t get lynched, he can go back to oh we should have lynched Slam, my bad.
So no Meap, this scenario is not necessarily implying Slam is a scum power role.
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On July 27 2019 22:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:47 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:12 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 22:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 21:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 19:39 Koshi wrote: Oh well. I am on Chezinu and I am fine with it. I would prefer to vote Eversince right now but hey. Maybe I am just mad at her and the world. It's crazy how you started this day cycle as a pretty decent townread of mine and literally everything you've posted since then has been garbage. I've got eversince as soft town. What is your reason besides for an elaborate omgus for voting him/her? Between koshi and chez I'd rather lynch chez but I'd much much rather lynch slam still. Ohhh I made this post before fully catching up and missed the hydra's case... I may have to reconsider chez vs koshi now. Here's where I am on Slam: If he's mafia and he's self voting he's doing it to try and keep votes away from other mafia. Otherwise he's town and just wants to die cos he thinks it will help town. Either way voting for him at this point is bad. Koshi is scum however and he will get stronger as the game gets smaller. If you think he is mafia kill him today. -J I absolutely hate his martyr and that's from someone who's done it before. Imo you martyr as town when there's like 6 hours left in the day and you have no hope of getting saved so you self vote to spawn discussion about the next day's vote. Slam on the other hand self voted with like 24 hours left and hardly a vote lead which to me says he's trying to appeal to emotion (and it seems to be working). The case on Koshi is not bad though, I just feel like we're moving from a like 95% chance to a 75% chance at hitting scum. I hope you are mafia. Go read the end of the world mafia if you want to see what I'm talking about. I got lynched like D4 or something and just stopped fighting it in the last couple hours so we could move on and talk about other shit. This preemptive 24 hours early martyr is just ridiculous. And yours is not any better by the way Mr. "I'm fine with Dying today." If you're town, start giving a fuck and play. I gave enough fucks. I am ok with dieing because I can't cure retarded. Let me get this straight Branch, you think this guy right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is scum. Getting bused by the hydra. Who is also scum. Which means you must think slam is scum, since the only person who a koshi bus would save is slam. Have I got all that right? Because that is the path that your logic is flowing down right now and it is pants on head retarded.
Missed this earlier. Never accused koshi, never accused slam. Talking about the hydra, because the hydra is my scum read.
Your insistance on connecting players to each others at this point in time is premature. Seems to me you are trying to spread attention between many people at this time. Which is miguided and anti town.
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On July 27 2019 23:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 23:12 Tubesock wrote: I did read the last three pages. And the 47 before that.
I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere.
Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum.
Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is. Smurf has literally put himself on the chopping block for Koshi. Explain to me how that makes sense as scum. He could have sat back and ridden the slam lynch into the sunset if he was scum and slam was town.
Smurf had one vote (Chezinu). Yeah that Chezinu. Saying he put himself on the chopping block is a massive exaggeration. Very scummy.
He could have. Maybe should have. Even if true, it doesn’t miraculously make him town.
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On July 27 2019 23:24 Tubesock wrote: If hydra is scum there’s no downside from pushing off a town Slam who is mayrting. Slam is likely to lynch himself. Hydra can later say he wasn’t voting poor townSlam and trying to get mean ole dumb town to kill “mafia” Koshi. And then work in killing Koshi the next day.
If Slam doesn’t get lynched, he can go back to oh we should have lynched Slam, my bad.
So no Meap, this scenario is not necessarily implying Slam is a scum power role. This is just bad logic. You say there's no downside but they are literally the ones getting lynched right now because of their push off. They're both decent players, they know how many people wanted them dead in the thread. Both of the scenarios you proposed about possible scum motives make no sense.
I'm going out now and idk if I'll be around for the lynch but I just want you to read this once as objectively as possible without assuming the hydra is scum and see if this reasoning makes sense.
If you end up being right about this I'll shut up and sheep you for the rest of the game.
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On July 27 2019 23:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 23:10 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote: Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum. Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position. But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment. Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum) That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him) Think about the implications of your reads.
Youre making up connections between players, which is purely speculative. I urge you to focus your attention on your top read, and vote this one person
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On July 27 2019 23:28 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 22:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:47 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2019 22:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:12 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 22:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 21:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 19:39 Koshi wrote: Oh well. I am on Chezinu and I am fine with it. I would prefer to vote Eversince right now but hey. Maybe I am just mad at her and the world. It's crazy how you started this day cycle as a pretty decent townread of mine and literally everything you've posted since then has been garbage. I've got eversince as soft town. What is your reason besides for an elaborate omgus for voting him/her? Between koshi and chez I'd rather lynch chez but I'd much much rather lynch slam still. Ohhh I made this post before fully catching up and missed the hydra's case... I may have to reconsider chez vs koshi now. Here's where I am on Slam: If he's mafia and he's self voting he's doing it to try and keep votes away from other mafia. Otherwise he's town and just wants to die cos he thinks it will help town. Either way voting for him at this point is bad. Koshi is scum however and he will get stronger as the game gets smaller. If you think he is mafia kill him today. -J I absolutely hate his martyr and that's from someone who's done it before. Imo you martyr as town when there's like 6 hours left in the day and you have no hope of getting saved so you self vote to spawn discussion about the next day's vote. Slam on the other hand self voted with like 24 hours left and hardly a vote lead which to me says he's trying to appeal to emotion (and it seems to be working). The case on Koshi is not bad though, I just feel like we're moving from a like 95% chance to a 75% chance at hitting scum. I hope you are mafia. Go read the end of the world mafia if you want to see what I'm talking about. I got lynched like D4 or something and just stopped fighting it in the last couple hours so we could move on and talk about other shit. This preemptive 24 hours early martyr is just ridiculous. And yours is not any better by the way Mr. "I'm fine with Dying today." If you're town, start giving a fuck and play. I gave enough fucks. I am ok with dieing because I can't cure retarded. Let me get this straight Branch, you think this guy right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is scum. Getting bused by the hydra. Who is also scum. Which means you must think slam is scum, since the only person who a koshi bus would save is slam. Have I got all that right? Because that is the path that your logic is flowing down right now and it is pants on head retarded. Missed this earlier. Never accused koshi, never accused slam. Talking about the hydra, because the hydra is my scum read. Your insistance on connecting players to each others at this point in time is premature. Seems to me you are trying to spread attention between many people at this time. Which is miguided and anti town. I don't care who you've "accused" or not with your pushes because at this point we're debating semantics. I need you to think about what your actual scum read implies. You can not say anything about someone and still have an implied read because of who you're pushing.
I'm going out now.
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MZ is literally the only person reading this game besides us and it’s fucking sad
Tube I’m just going to come out and say it now, are you the mason or was the mason afk yesterday??
Take your head out of your ass and read my posts. Read the one I just posted on Koshi. That’s probably the best case in this entire game so far, if I don’t say so myself. And it isn’t lecturing anyone on how good my scum game is.
I actually highly doubt you’re even reading our posts and the only reason you’d tunnel us this hard is if you somehow still believe rayn was right about us (before we even posted...????)
-wherebugsgo
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At the moment we are going to die because koshi, who townreads us, is voting for us.
Tubesock, take that in for a minute. You are casting the deciding vote right now but if koshi wasn't deliberately trying to kill town we wouldn't be in the lynch lead.
How can you not think that is the most mafia thing that has happened in the game so far?
100% koshi is mafia.
-J
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On July 27 2019 23:30 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 23:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 23:10 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 27 2019 22:23 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 21:55 NoSmurfHere wrote: Anyway I'm not going to keep talking about this you don't have a case so keep going if you want.
I would suggest you just look at koshi and you will see that he's scum. Then switch your vote to koshi.
-Jock I make it a rule to not follow scum suggestions. Even if Koshi looks guilty as hell This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position. But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment. Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum) That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him) Think about the implications of your reads. Youre making up connections between players, which is purely speculative. I urge you to focus your attention on your top read, and vote this one person
You should actually read his post because what he is saying is 100% correct and obvious to anyone who isn’t playing their first game (aka you)
Like seriously step back and consider that he might have a point, given that he has been playing this game for 10+ years and you just stepped into your first one today.
First, you call us scum for voting slam and chasing low hanging fruit in Koshi. Which implies:
1. We are scum 2. Slam is town 3. We switched our vote away from slam because we’re afraid of the implication that occurs when slam flips town 4. Koshi is town and low hanging fruit.
Let’s say you actually believe that the slip reasoning you used earlier is legit to call us scum, whatever. Me telling you that it isn’t a slip isn’t going to change anything.
Except, with everything else:
1. We weren’t voting slam 2. You haven’t explained why slam is town 3. You haven’t explained why Koshi is town 4. You haven’t explained why Koshi, who had taken no votes until I talked about him, is low hanging fruit
Okay.
Then, you go and make posts that independently assert Koshi is scum.
So if he’s low hanging fruit AND scum, AND we’re scum too, why would we draw attention to ourselves to bus a teammate when we can just let supposedly townie slam die by doing absolutely nothing at all?? we didn’t even need to vote slam for him to be in the lead so it would be completely safe for us!
In addition, if you independently think Koshi is scum and an easy kill why don’t you just vote him with us and we can get rid of an easy scum today? I don’t understand how we factor into that at all.
-wherebugsgo
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I hope I die and that you are town wbg.
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