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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
Alakaslam (3): Eywa, NoSmurfHere (3): Koshi (3): NoSmurfHere, Eversince, Meapak_Ziphh Eywa (2): Tubesock, FecalFeast Chezinu (0): Meapak_Ziphh (0): Pandain (0): Tubesock (0): FecalFeast (0): Not Voting (1): Holyflare Alakaslam is currently set to be lynched. Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Saturday, Jul 27 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Such BS scummy anti town play. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Are you comfortable with that? -J | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Voting NSH. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:05 Tubesock wrote: I really like this Branch.AUT. Voting NSH. Dude have you read anything that's happened in the past like 3 pages? Please checkout my post here https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=49#965 | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On July 27 2019 22:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is some terrible reasoning here dude. You brought up koshi looking bad independent from the hydra and repeated it a couple of times. Eversince voted koshi and then the hydra did. The hydra then expanded on the koshi vote, which is a read you agree with, and now you're not going to vote Koshi because you've convinced yourself the hydra is scum. If that's the case then why keep ragging on koshi? If you think the hydra is falsely accusing Koshi then why keep shading him? Unless you've somehow developed a scenario where the hydra is busing koshi, which doesn't make much sense unless you think slam is also scum and the scum team has decided to trade slam for koshi. There is a disconnect here: either you think the hydra is scum which makes koshi town, and yet you continue to shade koshi Or you think the hydra is scum, busing scum koshi to save scum slam? Either way this is terrible fucking logic. Actually I'd like anyone who is scum reading the Hydra because of this koshi push who also thinks koshi is scum to read this because the logic makes literally zero sense. Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere. Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum. Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:10 Branch.AUT wrote: Incorrect. As they are so fond of claiming, hydra voted first. Also note how I multiple times noted koshi looks suspicious, while never actually calling him anything more. All your reasoning is pants on head because you invented connections where none are. I am pushing my scumread, the hydra, because they react like scum. You, MZ, are establishing consitional reads on others, which at this point is a waste of time. The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position. But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment. Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum) That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him) Think about the implications of your reads. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:12 Tubesock wrote: I did read the last three pages. And the 47 before that. I do not agree with any of your arguments Meap. I think you’re wrong in Slam, and NoSmurfHere. Repeating that I’m in a stupid tunnel isnt going to change my mind that I think smurfs arguments are from scum. Please show me where they critically thought about the game and wasn’t lecturing us on how to play or how great their scum game is. Smurf has literally put himself on the chopping block for Koshi. Explain to me how that makes sense as scum. He could have sat back and ridden the slam lynch into the sunset if he was scum and slam was town. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
If Slam doesn’t get lynched, he can go back to oh we should have lynched Slam, my bad. So no Meap, this scenario is not necessarily implying Slam is a scum power role. | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On July 27 2019 22:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Let me get this straight Branch, you think this guy right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is scum. Getting bused by the hydra. Who is also scum. Which means you must think slam is scum, since the only person who a koshi bus would save is slam. Have I got all that right? Because that is the path that your logic is flowing down right now and it is pants on head retarded. Missed this earlier. Never accused koshi, never accused slam. Talking about the hydra, because the hydra is my scum read. Your insistance on connecting players to each others at this point in time is premature. Seems to me you are trying to spread attention between many people at this time. Which is miguided and anti town. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Smurf has literally put himself on the chopping block for Koshi. Explain to me how that makes sense as scum. He could have sat back and ridden the slam lynch into the sunset if he was scum and slam was town. Smurf had one vote (Chezinu). Yeah that Chezinu. Saying he put himself on the chopping block is a massive exaggeration. Very scummy. He could have. Maybe should have. Even if true, it doesn’t miraculously make him town. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:24 Tubesock wrote: If hydra is scum there’s no downside from pushing off a town Slam who is mayrting. Slam is likely to lynch himself. Hydra can later say he wasn’t voting poor townSlam and trying to get mean ole dumb town to kill “mafia” Koshi. And then work in killing Koshi the next day. If Slam doesn’t get lynched, he can go back to oh we should have lynched Slam, my bad. So no Meap, this scenario is not necessarily implying Slam is a scum power role. This is just bad logic. You say there's no downside but they are literally the ones getting lynched right now because of their push off. They're both decent players, they know how many people wanted them dead in the thread. Both of the scenarios you proposed about possible scum motives make no sense. I'm going out now and idk if I'll be around for the lynch but I just want you to read this once as objectively as possible without assuming the hydra is scum and see if this reasoning makes sense. If you end up being right about this I'll shut up and sheep you for the rest of the game. | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The bolded part here is terrible. Are you afraid of giving reads? And you should read my post a little more closely because I don't think you are actually thinking through the implications of your own position. But for the sake of argument, we can run through the logic again with no reference to Koshi's alignment. Hydra scum, pushes koshi to save slam (slam most be scum) That's what you're implying. There, I completely took out any reference to koshi's alignment. Hydra has zero reason to push koshi unless slam is scum. Slam was going to get lynched before everyone started unvoting. They have literally put themselves on the chopping block for a read. That's about as town as it gets. The only way this makes sense for them as scum is if they're trying to save slam (which probably means slam has a scum power role and that's all the more reason to kill him) Think about the implications of your reads. Youre making up connections between players, which is purely speculative. I urge you to focus your attention on your top read, and vote this one person | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:28 Branch.AUT wrote: Missed this earlier. Never accused koshi, never accused slam. Talking about the hydra, because the hydra is my scum read. Your insistance on connecting players to each others at this point in time is premature. Seems to me you are trying to spread attention between many people at this time. Which is miguided and anti town. I don't care who you've "accused" or not with your pushes because at this point we're debating semantics. I need you to think about what your actual scum read implies. You can not say anything about someone and still have an implied read because of who you're pushing. I'm going out now. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Tube I’m just going to come out and say it now, are you the mason or was the mason afk yesterday?? Take your head out of your ass and read my posts. Read the one I just posted on Koshi. That’s probably the best case in this entire game so far, if I don’t say so myself. And it isn’t lecturing anyone on how good my scum game is. I actually highly doubt you’re even reading our posts and the only reason you’d tunnel us this hard is if you somehow still believe rayn was right about us (before we even posted...????) -wherebugsgo | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Tubesock, take that in for a minute. You are casting the deciding vote right now but if koshi wasn't deliberately trying to kill town we wouldn't be in the lynch lead. How can you not think that is the most mafia thing that has happened in the game so far? 100% koshi is mafia. -J | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
On July 27 2019 23:30 Branch.AUT wrote: Youre making up connections between players, which is purely speculative. I urge you to focus your attention on your top read, and vote this one person You should actually read his post because what he is saying is 100% correct and obvious to anyone who isn’t playing their first game (aka you) Like seriously step back and consider that he might have a point, given that he has been playing this game for 10+ years and you just stepped into your first one today. First, you call us scum for voting slam and chasing low hanging fruit in Koshi. Which implies: 1. We are scum 2. Slam is town 3. We switched our vote away from slam because we’re afraid of the implication that occurs when slam flips town 4. Koshi is town and low hanging fruit. Let’s say you actually believe that the slip reasoning you used earlier is legit to call us scum, whatever. Me telling you that it isn’t a slip isn’t going to change anything. Except, with everything else: 1. We weren’t voting slam 2. You haven’t explained why slam is town 3. You haven’t explained why Koshi is town 4. You haven’t explained why Koshi, who had taken no votes until I talked about him, is low hanging fruit Okay. Then, you go and make posts that independently assert Koshi is scum. So if he’s low hanging fruit AND scum, AND we’re scum too, why would we draw attention to ourselves to bus a teammate when we can just let supposedly townie slam die by doing absolutely nothing at all?? we didn’t even need to vote slam for him to be in the lead so it would be completely safe for us! In addition, if you independently think Koshi is scum and an easy kill why don’t you just vote him with us and we can get rid of an easy scum today? I don’t understand how we factor into that at all. -wherebugsgo | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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