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Meh, I'm probably never going to not vote Koshi. He's 100% mafia in my mind and I'm tired of lynching into 'partners' Let's hang him already zz.. More lies, I'm a loose scum read now? After D3 OMGUS and calling me scum for the past 48+ hours? Really? I'm just POE though guys. Just POE. *sigh* I'm done.. We can't risk mis-lynch and Koshi is just mafia.
Branch is runner up but re-previous statement, I rather just burn Koshi.
I don't think Eywa is scum for same reasons I said yesterday. You guys convince me and maby I'll change my read but I don't see it x.x
NSH still super town. Points about mafia leaving him alive to push lynches through is worth looking into. Depending on how long I'm up tonight I'm try to look into NSH mafia reads and who's +1'ing them and trying to lead him to decisions. HF kill makes plenty of sense, Slam dis-owning Koshi and pushing away might have scared mafia team to get rid of him. Not sure on this one yet though. Both options viable in my head right now.
Leaves between MZ/Pandain. I've spent a fair amount of time waffling on Pandain, MZ I don't really remember outside of a few of his larger cases. I'm think on this for a while, I'm not sure who out of the pair is the mafia.. I'll filter some point tonight or tomorrow and try to figure out between them.
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1/6 RNG says 2. Lynch Eywa with fire!! But thats trash idea so nevermind 
Why was the m!ES on you guys radar btw Bugs? I thought the entire push onto me was super lazy  ..
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Damnit I'm missing player again.. my brain is dead..
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Of course the mafia tries to pull weight to end game today.. Unless you're assuming they wouldn't bus now? MZ is bus in which Branch may/may not funnel over if a town option pulls in (assuming m!MZ) is bus and they are trying to build town cred? I guess if you assume MZ/Eywa/ES team then ok?
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Mm.. if you say so. I think one between Pand/MZ is scum. I'm going to do my own filtering later and decide for myself though. I also am firm on Koshi being scum. You can say he looks more townie D4 but I don't agree at all..
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..? Why exactly? Just because he's obvious town doesn't make him automatically right. Any of town can get wrong reads and cost us the game. Jock is no exception :p.
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You are basically saying "Jock says vote MZ, you vote MZ or your scum, just vote Jock and go ahead afk until EOD" Killing discussion in lylo. Wonderful choice there..
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Hmm, seems like I don't have option here. I never got around to filtering Pandain/MZ yet but I don't think that matters since MZ is obviously going to be lynch.
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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I'd be way more happy with Koshi/Branch but between MZ/Pandain I think 1 between is mafia so it's 50/50 in my mind.
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On August 03 2019 04:16 Branch.AUT wrote:
Picking up the newbie mislynch, just after this tearful MZ theater
You've made multiple post in this game proving you are lying about being a 'newbie'.
Chezinu in particular doesn't play that much (at least when I went on hiatus last time), which means you have been around long enough you can't paint this picture. Note to add you had meta read on HF too. It's lies and your appeal to emotion fallacy is just one more reason for me to think your mafia. But yeah, if MZ is town GG mafia, town threw themselves off cliffs this entire game! Reason I'm not real invested in caring right now.
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On July 27 2019 19:25 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 19:19 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure hf is mafia just skating by. You saw the waterfall on words in his argumebt with me? You saw something like that solving this game? Nope...
And he was too diplomatic and clean in the end. Trying to shade me a bit with the Alakasam fanclub and shit.
Oh well. It worked.
Good on him It's a possibility. I don't know his meta as well as you do. One thing that HF is fond of saying is kill people who talk and contribute as mafia. Vivax NK is decidedly not that.
On July 28 2019 05:20 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 05:10 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Wait branch has never played with chezinu before right?
I have
First you DID use meta on your HF read.
Second you outright admit you have played with Chezinu before implying you are lying about 'just reading'
So, please, don't try to twist your words now to play 'Oh woe is newbie Branch, people just want to lynch me because I'm newb!!' No, people want to lynch you because your posting implies you're following thread sentiment and then trying to ploy emotions to get people to 'see you're doing stuff' While letting other players do your dirty laundry for you.
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I was saying it meant 'I've never meta read anyone' is wrong. Because you obviously did. Where you 'developed' that meta doesn't matter to me so much.. It's something you are saying you never did when you clearly did.
And saying you did the same thing with Chezinu after someone ask 'You've never played with Chez before right?' you answer 'I have' Implies that 'you have' (PLAYED with Chezinu before.
I'm not misconstruing your words. These are statements that you literally made.
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GG MZ  Nice hit friends :D
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@ Branch
You are using 'statement of fact' to develop a read based on admission/ proof of playstyle. This is the darn definition of meta reads. You DID use it and chirped at many people asking about HF. You obviously had thoughts and you're used past experience to augment those thoughts. Saying you didn't is a lie.
You admit again to having played with Chezinu. Even assuming never played forum mafia is fine I guess? I'm not spending the time to filter you right now to see, but you obviously have played. On this site or another, voice (not sure Chezinu plays voice?) At any rate your posting implies you are definitely NOT new to mafia. Claiming this as a reason to find people crumby is just picking straw.
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On August 03 2019 05:22 NoSmurfHere wrote:
His reentranced smelled off, and EOD he was considering between MZ and Branch. But he was second to last to vote MZ?
ES holding votes for a longass time is rubbing me the wrong way too. I think if MZ got jumped on like he did yesterday it’s likely that at least one scum would hold their vote to see if they can push an alternate
Branch as much as his posts are dumb looks townier. Arguing up to EOD...? Is he really gonna put that effort in as a new scum player?
-wherebugsgo
Go through every game I've ever played on this site. Me not using votes as leverage and waiting until almost deadline is just standard ES play. I rarely deviate from it. It's NAI at best ..
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I never said Pandain was 100% town if MZ was mafia.. I said I think there was one mafia between Pandain/MZ. Assuming I think Koshi/Branch is scum I can't think both are mafia yeah?? You make a decent points but I can see a world where mafia just bus m!Koshi early on (D2). He was in trouble D2 so why not bus him when it looks like he can be lynch? Pandain could make sense here, though I thought Slam distancing from Koshi was off for the same reason you said here about MZ/Pand.. I decided then it had to be 1 town/ 1 mafia and Koshi made more sense as mafia.. Same logic applies here :p.
What are your real reasons for scum reading me? I've reread and it's mostly 'ES is super low active' & 'ES isn't herself'. I already explain how activety is bogus reason to scum read me several times. Check out Simple game of mafia if you want proof of my statement -.-.. I was super low activity, didn't spend a ton of time explaining reads, as town that game too. If you guys won't explain a reasonable cause for wanting to lynch me outside this I'm just going to have giggle fits when the game ends when I die !
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And Koshi continues, he said he was going to re-read me.. Then put a few post of my filter and dropped that task and just called me confirmed scum. So there is that too. Much town play there.
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I'm obvious bad at explaining here..
How is me thinking 1 mafia between Koshi/Slam (prior flip), and me thinking 1 mafia between MZ/Pand any different? I gave up pressure on Slam (not that I ever pushed him real hard in the first place), I wasn't even considering between the two but given I think BOTH Koshi/ Branch are scum I LITERALLY CAN NOT think both are scum there. If the were that makes 4 mafia and game would already be over. You made sense on why you think Koshi/ Branch are less likely to be mafia so I say your logic is good.. I'll re-eval, but my point is it's not unheard of that mafia just busses m!Koshi (who is looking like lynch D2 here). Then none of these guys are driving factors unless you count MZ FF case.
At any rate I've already said I've waffled on Pandain most of the game to begin with anyway. So just to save you time going to look for it, he's still nullish for me but I liked him a little better for trying to deflecting off of Chezinu with me. But that's possible bias, as I tend to not try to read to much into Pandain anymore (I think he's scum every game). It could be m!Pand knowing Chezinu is town and trying to make himself look better. *shrugs* I already said I'd filter later but haven't done so because I have shit to do .
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MZ lynch was the only lynch they could of 'easily won' So please explain to me where that could of happened. MZ was obvious lynch outside of myself.
Chezinu probably never would have been in the race if HF didn't push him into it..
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