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On July 26 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 17:59 Koshi wrote:On July 26 2019 17:33 Holyflare wrote:On July 26 2019 17:29 Koshi wrote: You say slam is clear town. 2 seconds later he is clear mafia for a decent post.
Please. Go away. When on earth have I ever said slam is clear town? Wtf? And, no, it's not a decent post. Explain why just haphazardly calling chezinu and myself more likely mafia if pandain flips town is a good post. What logic is slam using here that's good? What correlation does pandain have to mine or chezinu's alignment? Not only does it NOT have a correlation but the original question of the chain was WHY does chezinu make this post and slam's answer was that he could be mafia. Why does he intertwine pandain and myself into his scum read of chezinu here and why is chezinu only more mafia if pandain is green when he thinks chezinu is now mafia to begin with? Vivax died. Filter. 2 names. I mean this literally doesn't answer anything nor does it explain why it's a good post for you but let's move on and I'll wait for slam's answer to my other question. Ok you admit to not reading. I am fine lynching you then.
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On July 25 2019 12:24 Vivax wrote: Looks like I forgot to unvote NSH and vote anything else yesterday really..
I think we can all agree that after that mislynch I don't really have to feel arsed to play. He was rather obvious town.
My advice is that you look into HF and pandain.
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On July 26 2019 17:21 Koshi wrote: Eywa Pandain Chezinu HF
4 good mafia candidates. There are some close to these but these are doing bad atm.
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On July 26 2019 06:47 Alakaslam wrote: What a short read.
He suspected Pandain and HF mostly. If he is killed this early, I tend to think he was on the right track.
See subsequent vote in vote thread. If folks want a counter wagon, it should be me I think so that my statements can warrant a reread when I am gone.
Because then y’all will realize: 1. I was town, and knew Rayn was too 2. That I was playing pretty carefully and pretty attentively 3. That though I couldn’t explain why, I was right on Rayn and am semi- likely to be right on other reads by EOD D2.
If Hf vs Pandain well idk I somehow feel they aren’t BOTH scum.
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On July 26 2019 07:40 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 07:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 26 2019 07:23 Tubesock wrote:On July 26 2019 07:16 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 26 2019 07:11 Tubesock wrote: FYI Slam often says he needs to die so town isn’t stuck with him lategame as he knows people can’t read him.
Secondly, saying both HF and Pandain may not be mafia probably has more to do with the reality that scumreads are often wrong. Not a lot of people have the same confidence that Eywa- was showing. Do you actually have a preference right now between HF and Pandain or is everyone just gonna say they think they meet good lynches and then explain nothing? I’d give it about 24 hours personally before I start considering killing either of them but I agree on principle that HF & Pandain are not bad leads, especially if all of Coag & FF & Chezinu are town (or even two out of three, which is fairly likely) I want to see more opinions on this list of players: FF Coag Chezinu HF Pandain As at least with slam the opinions are already fairly polarized. In my case it’s just a conditional read. -wherebugsgo My way of reading HF is essentially he’s mafia until he proves himself town by doing something that makes life for mafia!HF harder for zero reason. But it requires time and I don’t mind giving him days because I know he’s busy. I also am not that afraid of a mafia HF running around though. He gets a lot of heat every game. Except this one, which to me is interesting. My preference is Pandain (between him and HF). Although I still think you’re mafia but I’m willing to watch you work. I personally am not giving HF much heat because 1. I read him correctly day 1 for two games in a row then started becoming paranoid when he did jack shit into terrible fake claim in the first game, so I led a wagon that killed him. Then he tunneled someone I thought was obvious town (and got him killed) in the second game and fake claimed again?? So HF’s play is erratic enough that I have no confidence in being able to read him properly atm. 2. He caught on the same thing I did with slam @ EoD 3. Engaging with HF is an easy way to pollute the thread. As for Pandain, I’ve played with him twice (?) recently and by this point in the game he’s ordinarily posted a lot more, and everyone has already jumped on him to kill him, but I think I can read him well, especially when in that first game we played I was essentially the only person who correctly and confidently believed he was town. This game he hasn’t done anything to indicate either alignment but the game in general is very slow. What do you think of Coag and FF then? -wherebugsgo This excellently states why I am loth to lynch HF early even if he is my top scumread, which at the moment he is. WNG/Jock either of you want to read his filter? It’s Hf but it is also short.
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On July 26 2019 14:22 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 12:26 NoSmurfHere wrote:Chezinu voting tubesock is actually quite odd so I’d love to get an explanation for that. On July 26 2019 12:21 Fecalfeast wrote: I could kill slam On July 26 2019 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not going to until hydra dies tho I’ll be surprised if we get lynched but you’re welcome to try. It might advance your win-condition but in the end we’re both town so Tube might not be very happy with you afterward. -wherebugsgo Actually it fits with Chezinu scumplay. I suspect him. HF more if Pandain flopped green. I don’t expect us to see that yet. I expect to flip and I’m fine with that. Now for some insane reason HF want to proof Slam is mafia for above slightly modified post.
Slam gives great content. But that little comma, and the fact Slam said there were no cases on rayn is THE MOTHERFUCKER DEALBREAKER.
7 pages on slam.
But the goddamn comma makes him mafia.
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@all except hf. Slam is good in reading Chezinu btw.
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Anyway. Most likely scenario is that:
Scum!HF sees that Slam has him as his top scumread. Scum!HF attacks Slam.
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On July 26 2019 18:30 Koshi wrote: Anyway. Most likely scenario is that:
Scum!HF sees that Slam has him as his top scumread. Scum!HF attacks Slam over a comma.
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On July 26 2019 18:31 Holyflare wrote: This is even blown way out of proportion. I'm not voting slam, nor have I said he is conclusively mafia (you thought i thought he was town even) I've said pandain's filter is bad and is probably mafia (who slam is voting) but when somebody looks suspicious (pandain) really clearly so and another player (slam) is ALREADY putting qualifiers on his lynch about myself or chezinu being more scummy based on pandain's flip if he's town them I'm going to make all of those enquiries because I'm town and it looks really fucking bad to say. IT IS IN A CONTEXT. A VERY LOGIC WELL THOUGHT OUT CONTEXT.
Vivax dies Slam makes post on 2 main suspects of Vivax and concludes due to death it is likely there is mafia in there. Reads filters. Doesnt want to kill HF due to potential importance to town and a post from hydra. Then makes a post that if 1 of the 2 people Vivax suspects flips town the other one becomes more mafia.
WHERE IS THE PROBLEM YOU ******?!?!?!?!?!
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Ahh last comment I make towards HF. Sorry all for spam. I got baoted by potential mafia.
Shouldnt happen.
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##unvote ##vote Chezinu
Meh. I think most of you deserve to be alive tomorrow.
Chezinu Eywa Pandain in that order should be top lynches today.
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PS: don't confuse scummy and "I don't understand why" on my hard defense of slam.
If you think it is scummy fine. I wouldn't see how and why but fine.
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Chezinu is a really good lynch imo.
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On July 27 2019 01:18 Fecalfeast wrote:Also about to scumclaim again real quick Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 00:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Good morning
Why is it so hard to townread people this game.
I like hf and tube and koshi but I'd probably be ok killing everyone else.
I also townlean the new recruit for a bad reason so I'll just wait for them. If I just named the scumteam here I'm quitting playing and only hosting forever Sry. Some more time in purgatory.
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On July 27 2019 01:57 Branch.AUT wrote: I dislike the interaction between koshi, slam and HF. It seems to be aimed at making thread think only about pandain. When theres many other options to consider. Hmmmm. Wrong conclusion for sure. At least I didnt have the feeling it was about that at all.
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On July 27 2019 17:29 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 17:18 Eversince wrote:On July 27 2019 17:04 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 16:57 Eversince wrote: @Jock
Also if he's actually town that's the most m!Slam way t!Slam can make. He's literally playing as scum because if he IS town and martyrs, we have 1 mislynch to catch all 3 mafia.. (not jock, but FWIW) I actually was thinking about slam martyr voting himself and I just don't get it. Like we were in the vote lead (technically) and if he was scum he could have sheeped FF & tube on us and comfortably put us in the lead; Pandain's vote would've tied but it would have needed another vote to put slam in the lead again. So why self vote to put himself in the lead exactly? As either alignment? I'll be honest, I'm leaning toward just looking at someone else today because I'm having a hard time understanding slam's play from either perspective, and FF has some redeeming posts from day 1 & doesn't seem like anyone else thinks FF is scum. What if we just killed Koshi? -wherebugsgo If he's mafia trying to push himself to death so he can 'spend time with future wife' seems like a good way to play Appeal to Emotion card like he's done all game. People move, he get free pass to drop from the game for "reason he already posted" But that's a really rude move. (This last sentence might be my bias though, I don't lie about afk  ) I'd be ok with Koshi. He's playing like a lost sheep and that dumpster of a mess between HF/Koshi/Slam was just really bad. I would probably of ask same type of questions in HF shoes (not really because I thought Rayn was town to, but here again.. bias. I sub in after Rayn is already dead.) Chez would be fine with me to. He's literally contributed 0 to this game  . I’m good with killing Chezinu too but I think Jock finds him unreadable. I moved Koshi off my watchlist and onto my kill list. Moved eywa into my watchlist, but the activity drop was expected as eywa mentioned it. I think I’m fine with punting both HF and Pandain to tomorrow and neither of them will die today, that seems for sure. I think I move FF to watchlist as well, that one I’m not sure about...I have plenty of reasons I wanna kill FF but again some tone-wise good posts even if I think the content is bad. Here’s my lists in no particular order Kill: Koshi Slam Chezinu Watch: FF Eywa Everyone else: tentatively townreading Dead game -wherebugsgo Ahh wbg back to listing only townies as mafia. Good stuff. I better move my vote from Chez then.
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I am still ok with dieing.
I think HF could be mafia at this point.
Did nothing but focus on some dumb shit that would not be a townie priority.
So those 4 names I said. I am happy with them.
I didnt know eywa announced this afk stuff though. But still. Too long. Deserves to go down in list.
Maybe I should reread mz but Vivax told me he was town.
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Oh I opened Eversince her filter. That's already 5.
Doesnt matter.
Maybe I shouldnt have attzcked Holyflare and tried to work with him and try to solve the game. Maybe.
Town doesnt work together anymore. Though this way.
rayn deserved to die for his shit. Imo next should be somebody who hides his alignment like Chez but w.e. Baddies or mafia in control so we will lynch an active who annoyed a baddie.
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