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On July 30 2019 03:41 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. See I am pretty sure Eywa has something to offer
Your suspicion of me for a horrendous vote is warranted. As mentioned earlier this stems from me voting very rushed because I was short on time before deadline.
If you read my filter you will realize that my entire game has been applying logic to finding scum.
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Just finished Ewyas filter.
Not impressive. Basically calling people scum without reasons or arguments. Lots of distractions and pointless posts pretending to be activity.
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On July 30 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:16 Branch.AUT wrote:
Just finished Ewyas filter.
Not impressive. Basically calling people scum without reasons or arguments. Lots of distractions and pointless posts pretending to be activity.
Cases are scummy.
What do you think of Meapak_Ziph this game?
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On July 30 2019 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:29 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 04:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On July 30 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 04:16 Branch.AUT wrote:
Just finished Ewyas filter.
Not impressive. Basically calling people scum without reasons or arguments. Lots of distractions and pointless posts pretending to be activity.
Cases are scummy. I have no cases but I'm scummy apparently You're either scum or some severe anti-town. It's always hard to tell. I'd also like to point out the pre-insult for when I flip town so eywa can call me bad lol
Whats your opinion on pushing an Ewya lynch?
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On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot.
I like your approach to the game.
HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt.
Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you.
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On July 30 2019 04:34 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:32 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 04:16 Branch.AUT wrote:
Just finished Ewyas filter.
Not impressive. Basically calling people scum without reasons or arguments. Lots of distractions and pointless posts pretending to be activity.
Cases are scummy. What do you think of Meapak_Ziph this game? Did you miss any of the posts where I said he's mafia?
You call a lot of people mafia without any context or arguments
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On July 30 2019 04:51 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. Would you say that Alakaslam seems like he's having fun?
Haven't read the entirety of the gloriousness that is his filter. He has way to many posts unrelated to the game for my taste. Probably enjoying his life.
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On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J
I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts.
Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread.
Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts.
Who are yours?
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On July 30 2019 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
5) Fecalfeast
6) Eywa
7) Pandain
8) Coagulation Replaced by Branch.AUT Day 2.
11) Koshi
I'm narrowing you guys down.
Looking forward to your Koshi evaluation
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On July 30 2019 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
Branch can you make me a small list of players and write a line about each one summarising what you think their alignment is and why?
This might take a few minutes in between work
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1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town
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On July 30 2019 05:39 Holyflare wrote:
Very interested in the Branch read list. The entire filter feels like a robot is playing the game instead and there's some summaries that don't align with the voracity of other pushes he's been doing.
I was convinced the hydra is scum. So I pushed hard.
On others I was unsure. So I didn't push hard.
Seems logical to me.
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On July 30 2019 05:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 19:25 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 19:19 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure hf is mafia just skating by. You saw the waterfall on words in his argumebt with me? You saw something like that solving this game? Nope...
And he was too diplomatic and clean in the end. Trying to shade me a bit with the Alakasam fanclub and shit.
Oh well. It worked.
Good on him It's a possibility. I don't know his meta as well as you do. One thing that HF is fond of saying is kill people who talk and contribute as mafia. Vivax NK is decidedly not that. Can you explain to me how you know this? I don't think I've ever seen you obs a game I'm in or anything.
You have posted this at least twice. Once in obsqt after you died. And another time in a thread post game.
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On July 30 2019 05:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours? Right now koshi Then FF and one more from you/slam (I think bugs thought slam was mafia before today)/pandain/eywa I'm starting to come around to hf a little more. I was very suspicious earlier. His latest post encourages me though. -J
Whats your reason to scumread pandain?
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On July 30 2019 05:58 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
I think the latter part of this is a great point
you've been scum readin koshi for a while now, do you still? Can you explain why you didnt go after him harder day 2?
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On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing?
I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too.
FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious
Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote.
Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt.
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On July 30 2019 06:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 06:47 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing? I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too. FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote. Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt. But why does what I say about the hydra matter when: You have your own opinion on what the hydra QT posts meant originally. You have a conclusive reason yesterday for them to be lock mafia that you didn't think to reconsider about. You only just town read me for town reading the hydra and that's pretty much it? It seems pretty weird to me that you'd sacrifice the first two points just because I looked like I was town confirming someone?
We can talk more to solve this tomorrow. I am too tired to reason.
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On July 30 2019 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
It's actually incredibly hard to do an honest analysis of someone who has been calling you scum with literally nothing to back up the claims since like D1. I've kinda been ignoring most of what Eywa has said because I don't feel like giving the time of day when he doesn't have any reason aside from his gut (which helped get rayn killed). It's very tempting to OMGUS a case because this dude seems like a real asshole (hate when people talk about their home sites). But I agree with a couple points he's made today:
It's interesting to me how you somehow arrive at the conclusion that literally writing posts like "x is scum" makes someone more like to town, than posting reads and cooperating.
Let me adress your read on me now:
You say you have a problem with me claiming reason and logic, later call me robotic, don't you know that following logic is exactly what robots do? Why is it unnatural to appear robotic when playing logically?
What you call a facade is merely how I approach complex problems. Divide them into parts, and solve each indivdually.
You then immediately go back on a whole paragraph of what you just wrote, already undermining your argument yourself.
The part about copying one of you posts I simply don't understand. Can you please point out to me the similarity in these two posts you quoted posts?
You then somehow link me saying that voting ones scum-read is important (which I agree with), with something about being cautious about HF. These statements are entirely unconnected. For someone claiming to "logically deduce", you know precious little about the process.
And the last part of you first post is one half of a conversation I had with Holyflare, who asked me to provide a list of people in the game and my current opinion on them. Which in an attempt to cooperate with HF, I provided. This is me being consctructive. No clue how you arrive at this being scummy after claiming to have read said interaction 10 times. Leaving out the important second half of said conversation seems like youre twisting facts in order to have them fit your already reached conclusion. This is called cognitive
You are correct that none of these reads claism responsibility, because the only read I was certain of, and therefore would take resposibility for, was the Hydra read which has since been refuted.
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On July 30 2019 16:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 07:29 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 06:56 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 06:47 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 06:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town 1) You, yourself have said that this did not mean anything: On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. What's changed here? 2) Dunno what about my activity is suspicious but I'm moving so whatever, fair. If this is your only read on me why do you keep pointing things out like the above? Making crazy out of the blue assumptions that I'm partners with the hydra or repeatedly asking what people think of me or you're cautious about me because of the weight I hold in the thread? 5) Why is FF suspicious if your reads aligned early in the game? Have those reads changed? Which reads specifically did you agree with FF on? 11) Why is Koshi suspicious if you haven't read his filter since the start of d2? He's solely suspicious for the slam/myself/him stuff and that's it? Don't you think you should read his filter if he's suspicious and in a poe pool at this point with multiple people wanting to lynch him? Why have you not read his filter d2 if he was one of the candidates up for lynch then? 14) Why is Eversince town for having reasonable and coherent arguments but no initiative. Comparatively to FF what is different that makes him suspicious (even though you had the same reads) but doesn't make Eversince suspicious here for the same thing? I decided to treat you as town and thereby by extension the hydra too. FF may have the similar reads, but lacking reason and explanations. Also way to many posts unrelated to the gane. Could be trying to pass unnoticed behind spam. Suspicious Koshi is old read. Also hasnt done much im aware of since then. I was busy elsewhere leading up to the lynch. No time for proper decision so i piles onto highes wagon. Probably going to reread before deciding to vote. Eversince provides her opionon and reason when accusing people. This seems more productive than calling people scum. Therefore Im leaning towards town. Im unsure if I understood your qurstion correctly. Please rephrase if i didnt. But why does what I say about the hydra matter when: You have your own opinion on what the hydra QT posts meant originally. You have a conclusive reason yesterday for them to be lock mafia that you didn't think to reconsider about. You only just town read me for town reading the hydra and that's pretty much it? It seems pretty weird to me that you'd sacrifice the first two points just because I looked like I was town confirming someone? We can talk more to solve this tomorrow. I am too tired to reason. Please respond to this when you come back.
I decided to townread you because I give you the best chances of entangling this mess, and solving this game for town, and by extension for me, a vanilla townie. While I still could be wrong, this gives me the best shot at victory from my current information.
Giving you towncred means accepting your opinion on the hydra, which has since been mirrored by others. Posting the qt, even though it didn't convince me initially, has confirmed them as town to many. And I can admit when I was wrong.
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On July 30 2019 10:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 30 2019 09:38 Eywa- wrote:
Soo... Anyone seeing this FF and MZ scum theater unfolding? Jesus christ dude get off my nuts and scumhunt. Frankly I feel like M_Z is shooting really straight. I’m not even worried about being his alternate as I’m pretty sure he is right.
This seems like a very opportunistic move. It reads to me as if Slam was prepared to jump on anyone to save himself. Contradicting his earlier tendency to martyr himself.
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