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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 06 2019 15:39 GMT
#1501
Can you link important posts here
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 15:48 GMT
#1502
I would read the whole 2-3 pages after day 2 starts +

trfel's case on rayn
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549333-minifeast-15?page=66#1308

Rayn's response
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549333-minifeast-15?page=69#1372

There's a bit of back and forth including rayn making an omgus case on me here:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549333-minifeast-15?page=69#1379

Trfel also made a big post on ES somewhere recently
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 15:49 GMT
#1503
It would be nice if you read the whole thing though given that your choice decides the game now
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 06 2019 16:00 GMT
#1504
Who wants an eywa wagon
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:03 GMT
#1505
No, Eywa is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:03 GMT
#1506
Also there is nothing OMGUS in my case on jock. Only facts.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:05 GMT
#1507
On July 07 2019 01:00 Pandain wrote:
Who wants an eywa wagon


Really?
I'm not sure....
I find it really hard to read eywa. I would prefer eywa die to ES.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:05 GMT
#1508
On July 06 2019 21:53 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2019 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 06 2019 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Eywa- and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because they've been pushing each other all game. Raynpelikoneet and Jockmcplop probably aren't mafia together because the double bus here would be completely unnecessary. Raynpelikoneet and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because raynpelikoneet has been pushing Eversince so long and she didn't give up. To be honest I could kinda see this one but probably not so I'll ignore it for now.

Leaves raynpelikoneet and Eywa-, Jockmcplop and Eywa-, and Jockmcplop and Eversince.

Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet really is the best lynch today, everything else aside. Though if we are going to lynch him anyway part of me just wants to get it over with, no sense prolonging losing; but I need to think. And please correct me if any of the associative reads I made are wrong or weak.

I am going to challenge this. In your mind i can only be mafia with Eywa, meaning if i am mafia Eywa is ALWAYS mafia, so why are you lynching me? Like you're choosing to lynch a player you aren't sure is mafia but if they are another player is ALWAYS mafia. That said another player also fits into another mafia team. Why are you doing this? Because "let's just get over with it"?


Literally lynching between you and me PROVES Eywa is mafia. Unless your mafia with Jock, not possible I think.. So your being super dense here!

I am not sure why i am playing a logical deduction game when this is the level of logic we get.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:06 GMT
#1509
On July 07 2019 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is nothing OMGUS in my case on jock. Only facts.


You literally used the fact that i made a case on you to 'prove' that I had 'outed' myself as mafia.

That's omgus, my friend.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:07 GMT
#1510
On July 07 2019 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2019 21:53 Eversince wrote:
On July 06 2019 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 06 2019 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Eywa- and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because they've been pushing each other all game. Raynpelikoneet and Jockmcplop probably aren't mafia together because the double bus here would be completely unnecessary. Raynpelikoneet and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because raynpelikoneet has been pushing Eversince so long and she didn't give up. To be honest I could kinda see this one but probably not so I'll ignore it for now.

Leaves raynpelikoneet and Eywa-, Jockmcplop and Eywa-, and Jockmcplop and Eversince.

Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet really is the best lynch today, everything else aside. Though if we are going to lynch him anyway part of me just wants to get it over with, no sense prolonging losing; but I need to think. And please correct me if any of the associative reads I made are wrong or weak.

I am going to challenge this. In your mind i can only be mafia with Eywa, meaning if i am mafia Eywa is ALWAYS mafia, so why are you lynching me? Like you're choosing to lynch a player you aren't sure is mafia but if they are another player is ALWAYS mafia. That said another player also fits into another mafia team. Why are you doing this? Because "let's just get over with it"?


Literally lynching between you and me PROVES Eywa is mafia. Unless your mafia with Jock, not possible I think.. So your being super dense here!

I am not sure why i am playing a logical deduction game when this is the level of logic we get.


You haven't been playing a logical deduction game.

That's what everyone except you did after night 1 ended.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:08 GMT
#1511
STOP IT JOCK YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH RAYN TODAY.

Sorry rayn I don't want to fuck up the thread with this again.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:10 GMT
#1512
Pandain can you convince me that eywa is more likely to be mafia than rayn?

Please try, maybe I will switch.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 06 2019 16:14 GMT
#1513
Frankly, whoever the mafia is, they have been playing amazingly. And I think raynpelikoneet is most likely to be able to play an amazing scum game. I don't think I would be excited to lynch any of the remaining players if POE didn't say I had to.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:14 GMT
#1514
On July 07 2019 01:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is nothing OMGUS in my case on jock. Only facts.


You literally used the fact that i made a case on you to 'prove' that I had 'outed' myself as mafia.

That's omgus, my friend.

It's not omgus because your reasoning is full of shit and i pointed out why. You read me mafia parlty for same stuff you read me town for earlier on. Therefore you are using the same reasoning to call me different alignments when nothing in the game should suggest that. You have never taken any stance on Eversince, not tried to prove why the case on her is wrong, and then you call me mafia for my D1 end when i was the ONLY person who ACTUALLY defended Conversion. I literally pointed out why Grackaroni's case was crap and i thought Grackaroni is mafia for it. I thought that would be enough but the dumbjheads went and voted for his still 2 minutes into eod. You call me mafia for not "re-evaluating the game" when nothing suggests that i should re-evaluate my read on Eversince, literally fucking nothing, and at the same time you have been wrong on everything in this game pretty much but you simply deny the fact that you could be wrong on Eversince too (every dead townie in this game aside from Grackaroni thought ES is mafia -- and honestly i think those players are better than you). The implication that rayn+eywa are mafia is also fucking retarded since rayn+eywa team has the LEAST incentive to kill Holyflare because rayn+eywa are Holyflare's top town reads. eversince and grackaroni are holyflare's scumreads, we know grackaroni is town so why the fuck does rayn+eywa not let holyflare to lead the town to it's doom????? (that's also a point on your stupid re-evaluation accusation). So yeah, there is that.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:19 GMT
#1515
Rayn what's with the long unreadable unformatted blocks of text dude?
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:25 GMT
#1516
On July 07 2019 01:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn what's with the long unreadable unformatted blocks of text dude?

the post is very easy to read. if you dont have patience to do that maybe you should think if this ais a right game for you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:28 GMT
#1517
Trfel i asked you a question and i am waiting for you to answer. Why are you voting for me when the only player in the game i can be mafia with is eywa in your opinion? You apparently don't even scumread me.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 06 2019 16:30 GMT
#1518
On July 06 2019 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2019 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Eywa- and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because they've been pushing each other all game. Raynpelikoneet and Jockmcplop probably aren't mafia together because the double bus here would be completely unnecessary. Raynpelikoneet and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because raynpelikoneet has been pushing Eversince so long and she didn't give up. To be honest I could kinda see this one but probably not so I'll ignore it for now.

Leaves raynpelikoneet and Eywa-, Jockmcplop and Eywa-, and Jockmcplop and Eversince.

Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet really is the best lynch today, everything else aside. Though if we are going to lynch him anyway part of me just wants to get it over with, no sense prolonging losing; but I need to think. And please correct me if any of the associative reads I made are wrong or weak.

I am going to challenge this. In your mind i can only be mafia with Eywa, meaning if i am mafia Eywa is ALWAYS mafia, so why are you lynching me? Like you're choosing to lynch a player you aren't sure is mafia but if they are another player is ALWAYS mafia. That said another player also fits into another mafia team. Why are you doing this? Because "let's just get over with it"?
Yes, because let's get it over with. I was trying to talk about maybe a different lynch (like Eywa-), which was what the paragraph you quoted and said "what does this even mean?" was supposed to be about. But Jockmcplop and Eversince wanted it to be between you and Eversince. Honestly even if we lynch Eywa- first and assuming the game continues, I don't know if my mind will change. I am truly sorry if I am wrong, I know I'm not good at this game, but I have a lot of respect for your mafia play. I'd rather win or lose the game here than needlessly prolong it if nothing would change anyway.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 06 2019 16:31 GMT
#1519
On July 07 2019 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2019 01:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 07 2019 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is nothing OMGUS in my case on jock. Only facts.


You literally used the fact that i made a case on you to 'prove' that I had 'outed' myself as mafia.

That's omgus, my friend.

It's not omgus because your reasoning is full of shit and i pointed out why. You read me mafia parlty for same stuff you read me town for earlier on. Therefore you are using the same reasoning to call me different alignments when nothing in the game should suggest that.


I would say my reasoning early on was more likely to be shit given that all my early reads were 100% wrong. Therefore, I decided to look at the game differently to try and get a handle on it.
When i did that, I realized that you look like mafia to me.


You have never taken any stance on Eversince
,
The stance I have taken on ES is clearly that I don't think she's mafia, and its pretty obvious since all of my votes so far have been helping ES not die.
I think ES is town.

not tried to prove why the case on her is wrong, and then you call me mafia for my D1 end when i was the ONLY person who ACTUALLY defended Conversion. I literally pointed out why Grackaroni's case was crap and i thought Grackaroni is mafia for it. I thought that would be enough but the dumbjheads went and voted for his still 2 minutes into eod.


It depends what you mean by defend. You pointed out that grack's case was crap and you thought grack was mafia, but didn't change your vote because "you don't read the vote thread."

You call me mafia for not "re-evaluating the game" when nothing suggests that i should re-evaluate my read on Eversince, literally fucking nothing, and at the same time you have been wrong on everything in this game pretty much but you simply deny the fact that you could be wrong on Eversince too (every dead townie in this game aside from Grackaroni thought ES is mafia -- and honestly i think those players are better than you).


You haven't looked like you've even tried to figure out the night reads though. You certainly haven't shown any interest in helping the rest of town figure it out either, you just call everything bullshit and insist you are right.

As for the personal attacks:
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The implication that rayn+eywa are mafia is also fucking retarded since rayn+eywa team has the LEAST incentive to kill Holyflare because rayn+eywa are Holyflare's top town reads. eversince and grackaroni are holyflare's scumreads, we know grackaroni is town so why the fuck does rayn+eywa not let holyflare to lead the town to it's doom????? (that's also a point on your stupid re-evaluation accusation). So yeah, there is that.


Night kill motivations are WIFOM and you know it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2019 16:32 GMT
#1520
I am not sure why people join mafia games and then they have no incentive to lynch their mafia reads over some shitty fear lynches.
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