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sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix
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i dont know jocks meta, but i find it extremely unlikely he is mafia.
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On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not.
On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet
this post right here
it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is
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@rayn did your opinion on calix change or what?
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On May 20 2019 06:54 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix I don't know what you refer to with 'too certain of [her] opinions' or 'tries to find the best angle to defend them' given that all I've really done so far is sheep people. Which I am going to continue doing for various reasons. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Umm Between Ruxxar and Calix one or both are red, just saying What about that post made you not like Ruxxar?
my apologies madam
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On May 20 2019 07:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ? I think that's more a townie mindset? He's not concerned about what your read of him is (something mafia are normally hyper aware of) and is more concerned where you put a figure that people are talking about (Jock). Stuff like that, even if little, leads me to think disfo isn't that bad looking. At least for now, which is extremely superficially atm.
just want to put in my filter that this is a super townie post by hf.
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On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up.
You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post.
Of course you do when he calls you town lmao
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Also bugs you gotta turn down the rhetoric and preaching bullshit. Thats scummy af
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I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”
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As for your concerns im not planning on shitting up the thread with a massive barrage of shit posts, i hope you wont mind.
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On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao Your reaction to resistance on your vote vs Calix's reaction are pretty worlds apart. Hell, even the posts themselves are pretty different. When someone cites another post as part of their rationale in a way that makes sense, and manage to do this very consistently, I find it less likely they are scum. You didn't do that, did you? Now, what's odd is that you are calling me out for calling one list post bad, but not the other. You want me to look away from your scumminess at someone else...who according to you, did a very similar thing to you? Anyway, enough about you. The choices I'm presenting people with that aren't you are disformation and Calix. Given that I think your reason for voting Calix isn't valid, and you just basically said both your post AND Calix's post were scummy, I'd like to hear what you think about disformation. Failing that, talk to me about conversion's push on disformation. If you can't do either of those things then I'll narrow the list and recommend everyone just lynch you and you only.
So is calix scummy or not? Make up your mind.
You say im scummy for reading calix as scum, but now youre calling calix scum also. #galaxybrain
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ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.
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On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.
so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.
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On May 21 2019 01:14 Conversion wrote:interestingly enough I have played with disformation more than I thought two recent games I'm meta diving here: classic (disfo mafia)and vendee (disfo town, replaced in after N1) the thing with disfo here, from what I'm reading, is that he generally sounds the same (to which I think rayn alluded to when he was telling me disfo sounds the same either way) the thing is I'm more inclined to believe disfo is mafia here because it's been almost 48hrs and he hasn't done one productive thing all game let's take a look at Vendee: vendee+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2018 05:25 disformation wrote:
also a random thought i had:
if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone. On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not. I'm not going to go on a wall of quotes here, but what I'm seeing is lots of transparent thoughts in solving the game, without PRODDING. that's the big thing here, disfo this game has done nothing but majorly prodding. no real original thoughts tbh, just lots of questions won't share who he wants to lynch, won't comment on wagons, doesn't defend anyone, he tries to slink off into the background stuff like this in the current game On May 20 2019 23:57 disformation wrote:
currently looking at ruxxar. doesnt seem like a bad vote target.
other option would be to sheep ve and hf onto igrok.
want to see bc to explain the stuff surrounding his jock quote, think that will heavily influence my opinion on him.
fairly null on you tbh. translates to "ruxxar is meh, I'll vote him maybe, or I'll sheep to igro, but you are null. he just seems very opportunistic and not trying to solve the game he only really comes in when questioned/asked as well, I'm not seeing any proactivity in scum hunting in his posts now let's look at his mafia game classic+ Show Spoiler +On March 20 2018 16:36 disformation wrote:
not sure what to about mocsta. I like that he is like looking at ppl that are not much talked about (tocktock).
but then both tocktock and ylk look like okayish to me, so I am not sure if he is just making stuff up to post. On March 21 2018 21:34 disformation wrote:@rs: did look at the host revenge game. slam looked very different to here. i also don't think he would care that much about ppl voting him that much normally. but as a question: does it look different from only his town games or both his town and scum games? dont recall any scum slam games I was, link me a good one? though if the theory works then slam should think you are town for voting him early. as scum tries to keep him alive for long. the thing is, he hasn't posted about that theory thing recently hasnt he? maybe he forgot? so the question would be: @slam: chupazi theory or: Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
So... im in an odd predicament
(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything
(2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought.
I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics:
Slam
Moosy
Ex0/KSC,
Koshi/Disfo/n00bking,
DF
Rest is probably side distractions.
My current (albeit loose) thoughts are:
Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar
Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy)
Below null pile (n00bking)
Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only.
Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said.
Slam I would still need to meta-dive.
DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on.
tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.
moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team.
Apologies to leave it like this. Like shit I’m a big topic still. Consider lynching me like lynching little Blazinghand. I am really actually quite good; I’m just too nervous to ditch the façade just yet. Also, late game I wifom myself to the 5th level so I become easily influenced again. So I’m a mid game player. Give me the mid game, and I’ll benefit. I really shine when you throw me in at the middle. But lynching me early is just a waste. Say I were actually mafia even. Do you really think I am a good day one lynch mafia player? I am shit at pushing a real lynch I actually believe in (read last game! I couldn’t even do it with HF’s dogged help, and he is one of the best!) so what real use am I to a scumteam? Except to bus. So now, if you’re pushing me as scum? Consider this. As your scummate, (lol), I just took away your ability to bus me without heavily implicating yourself- EVERYONE KNOWS MY POINT IS RIGHT; I AM A GREAT BUSSING TARGET. SO NOW YOU INCRIMINATE YOURSELF. You ask, “lol slam cracked poor guy” in the QT, “how the hell does he think this will implicate us with his flip?” Here’s the kicker. Town, if you push me with genuine intent on me being scum, you are a lazy ass and deserve to lose. I am, if not THE least, one of the least influential players on this forum- I SAY BAR NONE, and challenge you to lift my spirits a bit and prove me wrong. So when I flip town? You deserve to be suspected. BAM MAFIA GOTTA BACK OFF. which one is it? but i am not gonna lie, between him being very different and him being apparently fairly upset by that vote, he makes me nervous. On March 21 2018 21:56 disformation wrote:
rayn's overall filter is kinda meh. doesn't look horrible on a glance, but has not a lot of impact either. his reason to vote me checks out. also seems to be very busy.
rayn has fooled me before though so i'll reserve the right to some paranoia.
not sure if i would want to lynch him for that d1, but if his filter is still meh and he has had no impact on a later day, i would heavily recommend lynching him. On March 21 2018 22:08 disformation wrote:
nah. don't have a problem with rs's filter. have no meta with/on her though. On March 21 2018 22:25 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:20 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, tbf, my read on you was back and forth.
Namely, you've only been focused on noob. You don't seem to be trying to suss out other alignments. That is scummy.
Caveats are: scumreading for his entrance wasn't bad
you could be tunneled town
But frankly, even tunneled town usually bother to attempt to make other reads even as they're tunneling. yeah i think that was my prob with conv as well. he had like 2 reads. just to organize my thought: town(ish) (no order): tocktock vivi ksc rs mocsta way too many nulls/meh/bleh ppl. he does a better job blending in Classic than he is here, actually. tries to at least LOOK like he's putting in some effort, but looking at his game here, it just does exactly what he's doing here, just better he's blending in, throwing out some "reads" here and there, but falls flat in taking a strong stance in really anything I just feel like it's the same sort of weird tonal meta read I had with rsoul in Vendee and the meta diving for me encapsulates disformation very clearly here: demotivated, trying to stay hidden and posting for the sake of posting (lots of prodding, evades conclusive questions, not really sure what real objective he has for D1 still to this hour) I'd just like to reiterate here that I do not think Jock-Disfo can be a team from the way they are playing. I'll look into ruxxar next since he did kind of just go "u tried" and ran away
i had a look through some disfo games and i came to the exact opposite conclusion. he seems towny tbh.
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On May 21 2019 01:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. That means you are still scumreading calix mainly for her entry post? Despite liking some posts she posted in the meantime?
yep
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On May 21 2019 01:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. Of course you'd like Koshi when he's been yelling down the house about how totes townie you are. Disliking someone - is this a scum-read? lol So you still think I'm mafia despite me being one of the main people scum-reading Conversion. Makes sense.
1) the koshi read is due to meta read from previous games, but sure, its not a hard read.
2) its between the two of you
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On May 21 2019 01:50 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 01:49 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 01:46 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. Of course you'd like Koshi when he's been yelling down the house about how totes townie you are. Disliking someone - is this a scum-read? lol So you still think I'm mafia despite me being one of the main people scum-reading Conversion. Makes sense. 1) the koshi read is due to meta read from previous games, but sure, its not a hard read. 2) its between the two of you Why re: question 2? I don't see what led you to think "one of Jock/ Calix is mafia"
So you still think I'm mafia despite me being one of the main people scum-reading Conversion. Makes sense.
2) its between the two of you
there is no jock
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also how do i remove the third party cookie banner on the bottom
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On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.
hope you find something, ever since rayn went away the game went stale.
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