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Read the last few posts in my filter, sheep me, and cruise to victory.
I will again announce that I will have extremely damning reasons for why Koshi and rayn's claims are completely unbelievable at the end of N2. Please await my announcement. If I die before I can make it because I'm a retard and don't time the post correctly, just trust me that I will play to my win condition at the risk of my own life as a townie. However, I seriously doubt scum have the balls to shoot me here because they want the satisfaction of a challenge by attempting to lynch me. Their egos are only matched by mine.
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On May 22 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Mobile posting so sorry formatting sucks
My god what happened
Things somehow got like 5x worse??
I agree with the takes that this game sucks and there is some missing piece here. I just reread all the back and Firth’s and came to the conclusion that mafia are probably not present at all, or if they are, they end up being semi-participatory because no one has any clue who will be suspected next. I waffled on Artanis quite a bit and found BC’s OMGUS strange even.
With the jock business, I agree with Calix basically 99% that it was an inconsistency but not worth lynching Jock over given the amount of evidence we have for Jock. I actually find rayn’s push an absolutely terrible way to play and I wanted to quit and quit on behalf of Jock because the logic is just so bad. However it fits to a tee with what rayn did last game to me-he just picked one random thing which was me not explaining some read (which I did, like 5000 fucking times) and then harping on that to eternity, forcing me to just ignore him otherwise the thread would blow up. The only issue is that rayn has disappeared since then and seems mostly non-participatory in finding other scum-he just found some weird reasons to continue townreading ruxxar. idk though, he’s probably townier than scum just on the jock basis alone.
Here are the characters that stood out:
VE “looks” better but he doesn’t seem to be contributing much in terms of original opinions, just looking to see where people will jump. I fully expect town VE to actually take some concrete stances and try to clear up some of the problems and I’m not seeing enough of that here ruxxar is completely absent and rayn defending him on jubjub grounds. This is the perfect scenario for mafia-having said some things that could easily be identified with perfect info (like if BC-Artanis is TvT and BC reacts really strongly it’s one of the easiest things ever to highlight the “weirdness” of BC’s reaction and then fuck off and never follow up on it which is exactly what ruxxar did. Rayn highlighting this as evidence that ruxxar is town like two IRL days after it happened is just moronic when ruxxar has just completely fucked off) + Show Spoiler +Conversion is also mostly completely absent and despite looking fairly good for the meta he brought up on both disfo and Koshi he is a complete non-factor here. However on past evidence I find him less likely scum so let’s give him a pass.
iGrok I waffle on between looking worse and better, he is around and fighting but a lot of what he is saying doesn’t make sense. The evidence in favour of iGrok that’s getting ignored I think is that he clearly has notes on the game and is struggling to keep up. He had posts he could cite that he wanted a second look at, and did actually follow up to some degree. That’s not typical lazy-scum behaviour, I think. Given that we can take for granted he’s struggling with the thread the not making sense part might not be alignment indicative.
So who I’d be willing to kill, scummiest to least scummy:
ruxxar, still, because everyone has just fucking ignored him and he’s sitting pretty. He never answered HF’s questions and actually even came back to comment on Jock SO HE’S CLEARLY READING THE THREAD
VE, because he somehow managed to be present and still completely useless. I actually do think a lot of his posting is being done to be deliberately misleading and he could be the active scum here
Of the rest of the players I’m still unsure because rayn is moving around in my list, Koshi is impossible to read, Artanis and BC will probably tunnel each other, and more time will hopefully sort out disfo/conversion further. BTW Jock let’s hydra next game
To scumread ruxx, you mentioned the way he went after BC for the 'weirdness' in me vs BC if it was TvT, but Calix and Disfo also went after him, which you seemed to town or at least nullread at the time. What was it about RuX' reply that made you feel his reply was scum motivated, and why did you not scumread anyone else that was on him?
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You're really transparent lol.
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On May 25 2019 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Mobile posting so sorry formatting sucks
My god what happened
Things somehow got like 5x worse??
I agree with the takes that this game sucks and there is some missing piece here. I just reread all the back and Firth’s and came to the conclusion that mafia are probably not present at all, or if they are, they end up being semi-participatory because no one has any clue who will be suspected next. I waffled on Artanis quite a bit and found BC’s OMGUS strange even.
With the jock business, I agree with Calix basically 99% that it was an inconsistency but not worth lynching Jock over given the amount of evidence we have for Jock. I actually find rayn’s push an absolutely terrible way to play and I wanted to quit and quit on behalf of Jock because the logic is just so bad. However it fits to a tee with what rayn did last game to me-he just picked one random thing which was me not explaining some read (which I did, like 5000 fucking times) and then harping on that to eternity, forcing me to just ignore him otherwise the thread would blow up. The only issue is that rayn has disappeared since then and seems mostly non-participatory in finding other scum-he just found some weird reasons to continue townreading ruxxar. idk though, he’s probably townier than scum just on the jock basis alone.
Here are the characters that stood out:
VE “looks” better but he doesn’t seem to be contributing much in terms of original opinions, just looking to see where people will jump. I fully expect town VE to actually take some concrete stances and try to clear up some of the problems and I’m not seeing enough of that here ruxxar is completely absent and rayn defending him on jubjub grounds. This is the perfect scenario for mafia-having said some things that could easily be identified with perfect info (like if BC-Artanis is TvT and BC reacts really strongly it’s one of the easiest things ever to highlight the “weirdness” of BC’s reaction and then fuck off and never follow up on it which is exactly what ruxxar did. Rayn highlighting this as evidence that ruxxar is town like two IRL days after it happened is just moronic when ruxxar has just completely fucked off) + Show Spoiler +Conversion is also mostly completely absent and despite looking fairly good for the meta he brought up on both disfo and Koshi he is a complete non-factor here. However on past evidence I find him less likely scum so let’s give him a pass.
iGrok I waffle on between looking worse and better, he is around and fighting but a lot of what he is saying doesn’t make sense. The evidence in favour of iGrok that’s getting ignored I think is that he clearly has notes on the game and is struggling to keep up. He had posts he could cite that he wanted a second look at, and did actually follow up to some degree. That’s not typical lazy-scum behaviour, I think. Given that we can take for granted he’s struggling with the thread the not making sense part might not be alignment indicative.
So who I’d be willing to kill, scummiest to least scummy:
ruxxar, still, because everyone has just fucking ignored him and he’s sitting pretty. He never answered HF’s questions and actually even came back to comment on Jock SO HE’S CLEARLY READING THE THREAD
VE, because he somehow managed to be present and still completely useless. I actually do think a lot of his posting is being done to be deliberately misleading and he could be the active scum here
Of the rest of the players I’m still unsure because rayn is moving around in my list, Koshi is impossible to read, Artanis and BC will probably tunnel each other, and more time will hopefully sort out disfo/conversion further. BTW Jock let’s hydra next game To scumread ruxx, you mentioned the way he went after BC for the 'weirdness' in me vs BC if it was TvT, but Calix and Disfo also went after him, which you seemed to town or at least nullread at the time. What was it about RuX' reply that made you feel his reply was scum motivated, and why did you not scumread anyone else that was on him?
I didn't scumread anyone else that was on ruxxar because no one agreed with me on ruxxar until I moved mountains to lynch him just a few hours before EOD.
The only players I'd consider scum in that situation when we probably waffled on a few townies plus possible scum in iGrok would be, well, iGrok and VE, because they're the only players who didn't have real reasons for voting their scumreads/didn't have any scumreads, and the only players I actually didn't have townreads on. Calix, disfo, and conversion were all around with me and I will chop my own dick off before I consider them scum in this game.
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On May 25 2019 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
You're really transparent lol.
VE already called me out so I'm 100% mafia know why I'm doing this
you know, all that town motivation to fucking publically announce why I might be acting this way
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On May 25 2019 21:43 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 22 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Mobile posting so sorry formatting sucks
My god what happened
Things somehow got like 5x worse??
I agree with the takes that this game sucks and there is some missing piece here. I just reread all the back and Firth’s and came to the conclusion that mafia are probably not present at all, or if they are, they end up being semi-participatory because no one has any clue who will be suspected next. I waffled on Artanis quite a bit and found BC’s OMGUS strange even.
With the jock business, I agree with Calix basically 99% that it was an inconsistency but not worth lynching Jock over given the amount of evidence we have for Jock. I actually find rayn’s push an absolutely terrible way to play and I wanted to quit and quit on behalf of Jock because the logic is just so bad. However it fits to a tee with what rayn did last game to me-he just picked one random thing which was me not explaining some read (which I did, like 5000 fucking times) and then harping on that to eternity, forcing me to just ignore him otherwise the thread would blow up. The only issue is that rayn has disappeared since then and seems mostly non-participatory in finding other scum-he just found some weird reasons to continue townreading ruxxar. idk though, he’s probably townier than scum just on the jock basis alone.
Here are the characters that stood out:
VE “looks” better but he doesn’t seem to be contributing much in terms of original opinions, just looking to see where people will jump. I fully expect town VE to actually take some concrete stances and try to clear up some of the problems and I’m not seeing enough of that here ruxxar is completely absent and rayn defending him on jubjub grounds. This is the perfect scenario for mafia-having said some things that could easily be identified with perfect info (like if BC-Artanis is TvT and BC reacts really strongly it’s one of the easiest things ever to highlight the “weirdness” of BC’s reaction and then fuck off and never follow up on it which is exactly what ruxxar did. Rayn highlighting this as evidence that ruxxar is town like two IRL days after it happened is just moronic when ruxxar has just completely fucked off) + Show Spoiler +Conversion is also mostly completely absent and despite looking fairly good for the meta he brought up on both disfo and Koshi he is a complete non-factor here. However on past evidence I find him less likely scum so let’s give him a pass.
iGrok I waffle on between looking worse and better, he is around and fighting but a lot of what he is saying doesn’t make sense. The evidence in favour of iGrok that’s getting ignored I think is that he clearly has notes on the game and is struggling to keep up. He had posts he could cite that he wanted a second look at, and did actually follow up to some degree. That’s not typical lazy-scum behaviour, I think. Given that we can take for granted he’s struggling with the thread the not making sense part might not be alignment indicative.
So who I’d be willing to kill, scummiest to least scummy:
ruxxar, still, because everyone has just fucking ignored him and he’s sitting pretty. He never answered HF’s questions and actually even came back to comment on Jock SO HE’S CLEARLY READING THE THREAD
VE, because he somehow managed to be present and still completely useless. I actually do think a lot of his posting is being done to be deliberately misleading and he could be the active scum here
Of the rest of the players I’m still unsure because rayn is moving around in my list, Koshi is impossible to read, Artanis and BC will probably tunnel each other, and more time will hopefully sort out disfo/conversion further. BTW Jock let’s hydra next game To scumread ruxx, you mentioned the way he went after BC for the 'weirdness' in me vs BC if it was TvT, but Calix and Disfo also went after him, which you seemed to town or at least nullread at the time. What was it about RuX' reply that made you feel his reply was scum motivated, and why did you not scumread anyone else that was on him? I didn't scumread anyone else that was on ruxxar because no one agreed with me on ruxxar until I moved mountains to lynch him just a few hours before EOD. The only players I'd consider scum in that situation when we probably waffled on a few townies plus possible scum in iGrok would be, well, iGrok and VE, because they're the only players who didn't have real reasons for voting their scumreads/didn't have any scumreads, and the only players I actually didn't have townreads on. Calix, disfo, and conversion were all around with me and I will chop my own dick off before I consider them scum in this game.
oh and to answer why I scum motivated ruxxar, I mostly thought he was scum because he was clearly around in the thread but he wouldn't respond to simple questions.
HF was also like 9000% sure he'd respond to a direct question HF asked him and he never actually did.
The cherry on top which just made me tunnel him EOD was that he commented on the Jock shenanigans and then slinked off and did absolutely nothing the rest of the day.
I would 100% lynch ruxxar again in that situation and the only people who defended him when I tried to get him lynched were Koshi, VE, and rayn. I hope you're getting the pattern now.
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like if iGrok flips town here, I am pretty convinced that HF on D1 did to iGrok what I did to ruxxar. Neither case was bad on its own merits, and both cases got blackballed by scum and scum only, for terrible/nonexistent/thread incongruent reasons that only scum would use because they have TMI.
BTW iGrok you really need to pull it out here if you are town because now that I have the ability to read your images from a computer and not a phone I really like many of your written notes. I want you to provide your thoughts on my cases before you die so that if you do flip town I can at least get opinions on the game from someone who is confirmed and not named Jock. (sorry Jock I love you but I need some variety yaknowwhatimsayin)
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I hope scum has realized the fucking nuke I'm about to drop on them at EoN2 and are just too busy shitting their pants trying to come up with reasons to blackball me again to respond
it's either gonna be a continual barrage of flood posts or some sort of giant walls of text incoming from the 3 stooges
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On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him.
How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D
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On May 25 2019 21:36 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WBG, can you explain your townread on Calix? I'm sure it's in your filter but I've got enough to read as is. We share an incredibly similar take on the game when I am ignoring thread sentiment. I also have an incredibly strong tonal read on Calix and I am deliberately ignoring the amount of time she spends defending herself because she has been blackballed harder than almost anyone in this game with the possible exception of myself. Like literally Koshi and Rayn have been baying for her head for probably 40+ pages of this game with literally no cited reasons besides the VERY FIRST POST IN THE GAME. Like rayn openly admits his entire reason for calling Calix scum is the first post. Why the fuck would anyone trust rayn on this when he did the exact same thing to Jock and there have been loads of opportunities to reevaluate on Calix ever since?
Hey I've been keeping cool too  though that's fair, she has been under pressure a lot. Not really this day as much though as it became a two-man race pretty quick. As for Rayn, he always gets stuck on singular things and doesn't let go. I don't think it's alignment indicative for him, if anything it's town indicative.
Calix is in the very elite few players I've directly witnessed following up on previous reads or statements in this game. Examples: Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 22:36 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 22:35 disformation wrote:
yeah not sure if he was "pretending" to be you or bugs.
since he was like "Guis I think Calix is mafia." I was thinking bugs. Anyway do you think rayn is mafia or not? Pretty sure you did not answer my question the first time ^^ example post I tone read as town: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 03:05 Calix wrote:
Why do you people keep hopping between lynches while always avoiding the obvious scum in front of you?
First Jock, then me, and now possibly iGrok?
Come on.
Then again, I have 4 votes. Meaning that even if the ENTIRE mafia team is on my arse, at least one townie looked at the ""case"" against me and the CONVINCING 'lynch Calix' posts put forth by rayn/ Koshi/ VE and concluded "yes, this is a great D1 vote".
But I'm more annoyed with the people dicking around and letting this happen. and again: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 03:07 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah yeah mafia people rayn/ve/koshi are killing you, find a new song? I didn't call all of you mafia. Learn to read.
I can see where you're coming from. However, I can also see it mafia being pissed that their first post got them under so much scrutiny that even when she's putting in the legwork, people like rayn are still not re-evaluating them. I don't think frustration is alignment indicative. Just because you're mafia doesn't mean you can't be annoyed at people scumreading you for reasons you think are bad. As for following up on questions, I'll grant you it's a slight point in her favour, but I don't think it's hard to do.
It helps that in this case no matter how many scum she actually thinks are on her, her mafia reads align well with mine based on this (because I've been reading VE as scum almost all game and no one agrees with me. It's actually driving me nuts how much people are refusing to read him and how much slack they're giving him when he has basically shut down constructive discussion every single time he's entered the thread, with 34 PAGES OF FILTER.) Like I would love if anyone can point out a single positive point, proactive question/followup or probe on a disagreement that VE has had with any player except Koshi/Rayn, and to what degree that aligns with his scum reads because I just don't see it.
I presume you mean her Koshi/Rayn reads? I don't see her scumreading VE any time beyond the initial tinfoil. The rest of this seems to be more about VE which'll need a followup that I really don't think I'll ever have time for when I think he's likely town/to be solved later at best.
Lastly, Calix is really transparent in the face of overwhelming pressure. Like I've literally never seen anyone keep their cool this much and I have to give serious props because there is no way I could do the same thing in her place. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 04:20 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 04:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 22 2019 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
This game is very confusing. I feel like every time I accuse somebody of something it's like trying to ram a jigsaw piece that doesn't quite fit. That usually means one of the people that are town read by lots of people is playing well. There are a few outliers though. I think Artanis just posts really agreeable things and decides to leave each time so he doesn't draw attention to himself. I think iGrok basically just sheeped consensus and couldn't be fucked to expand on his read on me.
Wait what? I'm posting just agreeable things? That's garbage. I was the first on WBG's case, first on BC, and have had unpopular opinions pretty much the entire game. The first time I'm joining thread sentiment is on Calix, which I disagreed on with people scumreading her on her first post already. As for 'convenient timings', it's whatever work allows me, and limited by 2 hours a day which I've already mentioned. @Calix On May 22 2019 02:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
There's a bunch of things I dislike about Calix and then some I like.
Dislike: Saying Koshi is lying about his read on her but not calling him out, sudden focus on Rayn again after being on Conversion for a while for seemingly no reason when she stated that she doesn't think Koshi/Rayn can be scum together and clearly indicated a strong suspicion of Koshi. The tinfoil she had on Rayn/VE was bad too, and I didn't like how unfocused she was for large parts of the game.
But then she started honing down on Rayn recently. She got the wagon started and I'm not sure if that's a play she would make as mafia. Rayn is notoriously hard to lynch and a significant number of people seemed on board with Conversion. It'd only make sense if she's scum with Conversion to me. It feels like she really believes in that lynch.
The biggest question I have is what changed, Calix? Why are you suddenly so gung-ho on Rayn again after switching your focus halfway through the day? Can you reply to the last bit? To answer this and your other question [the one about 'what made me town-read rayn?'], here's what I remember about how it went. After pressuring rayn...I actually don't recall town-reading him at all. Pretty sure I just forgot about him because he disappeared for a while. Then when I was attacking Koshi, rayn appeared. I was reminded of how scummy rayn was because all his posts were, in my opinion, pushing mafia agenda. And if you need more elaboration then read my filter because I've repeated myself a lot at this point. ANYWAY but then I was like "don't think these two are on a team together" and concluded rayn was scummier than Koshi, therefore Koshi...had...to be town? So yeah. This is again a follow up (to you) and transparently lays out her thoughts. She's also one of maybe only three or four players who I have seen actively care about the complete shite state this thread is in and try to improve it. Here's an example: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:43 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:41 disformation wrote:
i feel mostly tired and would be happy for you two to cooperate for a second.
for the most part bugs seems reasonable and ruxxar def. did do jack today despite being around-ish.
slightly bad gut feeling about grok as mentioned earlier, but i also wont be super sad if we end up voting him.
would like bc more but that is not happening so i am willing to cooperate and not fucking off Yeah could you two stop bickering please? We're not killing you two today so it's wasting precious time since we're still unsure who to lynch as a whole, lol. Just focus on lynch candidates, kk? Regardless, Calix's play is criminally underrated in this game if she is town and if she is mafia I will probably consider her the best mafia to have ever played because I just don't see how she can be.
Her reactions have definitely been on point in a calm and collected way, but for me that isn't town indicative. I don't know her meta at all, and everyone responds differently to pressure as different alignments. Have you played with her before as either alignment?
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Bugs if you had a rb and were mafia who would you be rbing?
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On May 25 2019 22:00 Holyflare wrote:
Bugs if you had a rb and were mafia who would you be rbing?
me.
And if iGrok is town, him
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On May 25 2019 21:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him. How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D
Cause I'm at page 97 and I haven't encountered him yet?
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On May 25 2019 22:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him. How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D Cause I'm at page 97 and I haven't encountered him yet?
Then stop making summaries as if you've fully caught up yet then lol. Just read and make a summary of everything and what you think :/
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oh ROFL I can't RB myself if I'm scum
anyway same answer except I'd probably RB rayn and then iGrok. Rayn is a guaranteed RB on n1 because he claimed PC and didn't retract it
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On May 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him. How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D Cause I'm at page 97 and I haven't encountered him yet? Then stop making summaries as if you've fully caught up yet then lol. Just read and make a summary of everything and what you think :/
I'd rather respond to things as I see them so my thoughts aren't lost but thank you for your valuable input.
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also you don't have to RB rayn every cycle, every other cycle is probably good enough...I think, based on this:
posts made after deadline but before the flip are restricted to popcorn or you may face a warning/modkill
There will be a voting thread
Plurality lynch
Replacements until the end of day 2 only.
Town can vote for a no lynch.
Mafia can not hold their shot. In the (hopefully unlikely) event that no mafia shot is presented to the hosts, a non-mafia target will be chosen at random.
If a player's action would return "no result" that player will receive a PM
Veteran is NOT notified if they absorb a shot
Roleblock/jailer targets are NOT notified via PM
Mafia KP is carried by a specific player and can be blocked
Mafia RB > town RB/jailer > everyone else.
Roleblock/jail does defeat passive abilities (GF/vet/miller/wanderer)
No player may target themselves with any power
I'm not entirely sure how PC works in this game with roleblocks especially given that thing in the thread about the (I tried...)
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on calix:
first post: not sexy but prolly beaten to death by now. note: there is some disagreement on her reading hf town at this point. since its meta i'm going to ignore it here.
looking at the early tr on me. i kinda had an idea. like maybe the style she is going for is something like "i have a small reason to tr someone, so ill tr them and interact with them and other ppl who ask about this read". so she is basically just into taking hard stances.
i can see why ruxxar e.g. was like "how is she so sure on her stuff?" but i think she can be town for this. this also explains why she is trying to have ppl take hard stances a lot in her interactions. so the information is out there and the ppl can be followed up onto and taken accountable (eg the opposite of whatever bc is doing).
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On May 22 2019 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
Like VE is the one player I’d expect to come here and buddy me on ruxxar but he just ignores me when I talk about it. That’s strange af
WBG, given your reads, what is mafia VE's motivation for not engaging you on town ruxxar over mafia iGrok?
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