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On May 23 2019 18:57 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 18:54 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 18:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Conversion occupies a weird place where I think he's town but I'm not super confident and others think he's mafia. His posting seems conveniently timed and I've found him more suspicious recently than I did originally, hence the drop on my list. Vague. Super vague. Only rayn dropped him for weird EoD shit with iGrok. But people (HF, VE) that think iGrok is mafia shouldnt really take that point into account because would mafia igrok and mafia conversion do programming jokes around EoD on such lighthearthed way?? I'm not a programmer and so don't know the mind of a programmer. Maybe it's easier for them to make jokes like that than other kinds. Maybe they're programming jokes because they're uncomfortable and that's where their nerd brains go to comfort themselves. Koshi I don't know, but I am also putting him in a more townie category than iGrok, so....not sure where this is going.
damn son don’t call me a NeRd
I was already coming off like 3 hours studying for my interview which is why I got distracted by it
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Once he returned to the thread (after the first his flight) He has been fairly active in the thread. At least by say, my standards.
Like, I am clearly able of being wrong given HF last game and ruxxar this game. But I just don't see Igrok as scum at this moment. His activity is similar to my own (so if that means im scum go for it) and he looks to be trying to figure out the game.
Not going to judge igrok for that sentiment though if we arent going to also damn every other player who has borderline rage quit the game for similar behaviour.
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On May 23 2019 19:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I kinda hope I'm Artanis' lynch preference. Because I'm gonna stonewall him if I am, like hard.
Barring some weird change I think hes going to continue on me so you know.
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holy shit I’m a devourer! U carriers can eat shit
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop
Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi
Townish:
Raynpelikoneet
Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo
Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes
Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler
AMA.
can U explain ur town read on me at this point in time? u made one post on me so im curious
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On May 23 2019 20:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Once he returned to the thread (after the first his flight) He has been fairly active in the thread. At least by say, my standards.
Like, I am clearly able of being wrong given HF last game and ruxxar this game. But I just don't see Igrok as scum at this moment. His activity is similar to my own (so if that means im scum go for it) and he looks to be trying to figure out the game.
Not going to judge igrok for that sentiment though if we arent going to also damn every other player who has borderline rage quit the game for similar behaviour.
I don't understand this post. Nobody is scum-reading you or iGrok based on activity yet most of this post talks about activity like it's AI.
As for the only thing in this post that would actually be AI, can you point us to the 'figuring out the game' posts iGrok has, in your opinion, made?
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On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Show nested quote +Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post.
I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her?
I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix?
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On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix?
I had a bad opening post and I'm very convenient when it comes to making scum teams, lmao.
Oh wait, sorry. I forgot Koshi 'doesn't believe in my reads'.
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On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix?
if i can recall it correctly:
the points are mainly:
her very first post was hot garbage
super early hf town read, she shouldnt have
meta (aka is not town calix)
someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up
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On May 23 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix? if i can recall it correctly: the points are mainly: her very first post was hot garbage super early hf town read, she shouldnt have meta (aka is not town calix) someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up
Who the hell said the last thing? And you yourself said the meta thing was suspicious because Koshi thinks I'm mafia!Calix, WBG thinks I'm town!Calix and I think I'm not like any of my games.
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On May 23 2019 20:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Once he returned to the thread (after the first his flight) He has been fairly active in the thread. At least by say, my standards.
Like, I am clearly able of being wrong given HF last game and ruxxar this game. But I just don't see Igrok as scum at this moment. His activity is similar to my own (so if that means im scum go for it) and he looks to be trying to figure out the game.
Not going to judge igrok for that sentiment though if we arent going to also damn every other player who has borderline rage quit the game for similar behaviour. I don't understand this post. Nobody is scum-reading you or iGrok based on activity yet most of this post talks about activity like it's AI. As for the only thing in this post that would actually be AI, can you point us to the 'figuring out the game' posts iGrok has, in your opinion, made?
Do you even read the thread? VE literally just used the reason of "complained about thread and fucked off"
As for posts
On May 21 2019 16:31 iGrok wrote:
Man, I'm out of practice. I really want to feel like calix is mafia, but I can tell if its because she is making bad aggro on me and I'm overreacting.
It doesn't help that I have no idea how good/bad/experienced calix is. My initial key moments for her were:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Only positive thing I know about calix right now is that I like her playstyle. Periodic summaries - its what I typically tried to do as well.
But like I said, I'm self-aware enough to realize that I may just be reacting incorrectly. Thoughts?
On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.
And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.
Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.
Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1
Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.
On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions
On May 22 2019 04:36 iGrok wrote:
@VE I've been away for a while but my read on rayn fits perfectly with my memory of him. I thought you had caught onto it earlier, said as much too, but I guess not?
Rayn's early game felt completely like read-generation material. The bad VT claim, the aggression, the obvious fake claim (which almost everyone ignored, so... either good job to everyone for not buying it or horrible job for not even noticing it) - he did oversell it later, made it more obvious but like...
He called HF on some nonsense, decided he had found some mafia and stopped playing as someone said - but honestly that is such a rayn thing to do from my memory.
On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat.
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On May 23 2019 20:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix? if i can recall it correctly: the points are mainly: her very first post was hot garbage super early hf town read, she shouldnt have meta (aka is not town calix) someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up Who the hell said the last thing? And you yourself said the meta thing was suspicious because Koshi thinks I'm mafia!Calix, WBG thinks I'm town!Calix and I think I'm not like any of my games.
lemme see if i can find it.
i also dont say i agree with the points.
those are the points i can remember being brought up against you
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On May 23 2019 20:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:05 Calix wrote:On May 23 2019 20:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Once he returned to the thread (after the first his flight) He has been fairly active in the thread. At least by say, my standards.
Like, I am clearly able of being wrong given HF last game and ruxxar this game. But I just don't see Igrok as scum at this moment. His activity is similar to my own (so if that means im scum go for it) and he looks to be trying to figure out the game.
Not going to judge igrok for that sentiment though if we arent going to also damn every other player who has borderline rage quit the game for similar behaviour. I don't understand this post. Nobody is scum-reading you or iGrok based on activity yet most of this post talks about activity like it's AI. As for the only thing in this post that would actually be AI, can you point us to the 'figuring out the game' posts iGrok has, in your opinion, made? Do you even read the thread? VE literally just used the reason of "complained about thread and fucked off" As for posts Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 16:31 iGrok wrote:
Man, I'm out of practice. I really want to feel like calix is mafia, but I can tell if its because she is making bad aggro on me and I'm overreacting.
It doesn't help that I have no idea how good/bad/experienced calix is. My initial key moments for her were:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Only positive thing I know about calix right now is that I like her playstyle. Periodic summaries - its what I typically tried to do as well.
But like I said, I'm self-aware enough to realize that I may just be reacting incorrectly. Thoughts? Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.
And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.
Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.
Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1
Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 04:36 iGrok wrote:
@VE I've been away for a while but my read on rayn fits perfectly with my memory of him. I thought you had caught onto it earlier, said as much too, but I guess not?
Rayn's early game felt completely like read-generation material. The bad VT claim, the aggression, the obvious fake claim (which almost everyone ignored, so... either good job to everyone for not buying it or horrible job for not even noticing it) - he did oversell it later, made it more obvious but like...
He called HF on some nonsense, decided he had found some mafia and stopped playing as someone said - but honestly that is such a rayn thing to do from my memory. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat.
'complained about thread and fucked off' isn't saying your low activity is scummy though, lmao.
Don't agree the first post is good. I agreed with HF's appraisal of that. I also don't agree the HF thing is necessarily townie given the context.
I can see how someone might look at those posts and think what you said about them but I am less convinced.
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On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix?
Purposely drawing attention to yourself tbh isn't a Town indicator. Anyone can do it regardless of alignment.
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On May 23 2019 20:13 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:12 Calix wrote:On May 23 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix? if i can recall it correctly: the points are mainly: her very first post was hot garbage super early hf town read, she shouldnt have meta (aka is not town calix) someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up Who the hell said the last thing? And you yourself said the meta thing was suspicious because Koshi thinks I'm mafia!Calix, WBG thinks I'm town!Calix and I think I'm not like any of my games. lemme see if i can find it. i also dont say i agree with the points. those are the points i can remember being brought up against you
ah. think it was this one:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
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So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*
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You don't need to agree with it. I am merely stating my view of it. However in terms of quality / content type you should at least sympathize given your entry to the thread was comparable to that.
My issue with your view of it is that you had to have that pointed out to you. Especially after he was going to reconsidering his read on you.
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On May 23 2019 20:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You don't need to agree with it. I am merely stating my view of it. However in terms of quality / content type you should at least sympathize given your entry to the thread was comparable to that.
My issue with your view of it is that you had to have that pointed out to you. Especially after he was going to reconsidering his read on you.
I don't really get why having similar quality/ content types would mean anything. Both you and iGrok have made this argument [like when he said he liked my posting style as a mitigating factor in my scumminess] but this has nothing to do with alignment, it's literally just how we post...?
Regardless, this seems to be a thing you two legitimately think so I don't think it's AI. But I don't agree with you.
Speaking of your view on me, what posts were you referring to in your earlier 'read' of me? You don't have to quote them, I just want to know what you were thinking as the game progressed because I cannot tell.
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On May 23 2019 19:45 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 19:41 Calix wrote:I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town. People need to stop saying shit like this. Why? Because if iGrok/ HF/ Artanis are all town then you're basically locking in several mislynches. And if people vote for X so they can lynch Y tomorrow it makes them less willing to re-evaluate their reads. Also you should vote for people you think are mafia, not just compromise on reads so you can get a lynch you want the next day...when your reads on the people you want lynched will most likely change in that time...therefore making the whole process really dumb.
I mean at the risk of being too open about this i was JUST told that in mafia people say one thing and then do something different at EoD, but then people treat my word as fucking gold when I suggest something with about 65 hours left in the day that I might not want to do but would get me information if people respond to it.
Make your bloody minds up.
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I have already stated when I scum read you and when I upgraded my read. Those are clearly already in thread. So go filter dive me if you want to read them. Even you have to put through the extra work if we are going to solve the game.
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On May 23 2019 12:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
I WANT TO GET OFF MR BONE'S WILD RIDEIt's daytime!!! I hope you're all excited for the sun to be out for basically ever. I'm not so I'll be in here, try not to get any blood on my stuff.
Nobody died.It is now day time. Please remember to vote in the voting thread. --VOTING THREAD HERE--
Another reminder that this game's timecycle invites the thread to balloon out of control. For the sake of everyone reading the game, please try to condense the multi-posting to fewer or preferrably 1 post.
until Night 2. (Sunday, May 26 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)) remember that voting is mandatory.
Yay
On May 23 2019 14:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote artanis
On May 23 2019 19:33 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Artanis
On May 23 2019 19:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[xp]
Boo.
On May 23 2019 19:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote Artanis
zzz
Hi friends and less friendly people.
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I've gone totally cold on my conversion scumread btw. Not because of anything he's done but more because I decided to play to my strengths and try to put more emphasis on analyzing data rather than analyzing post content for scumtells.
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