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On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. You know, the main reason you townread iGrok was that he was maf reading Bugs like you. Now that you're not maf reading Bugs, does your townread of iGrok remain? If so, why?
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Eeeehhhhhh.....Yeah suddenly this feels dirty.
##Unvote ##Vote: iGrok
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Calix I'm willing to give you today again. There's enough consensus on the others that you can live again today. Prove to me you're town if you are please. Not by doing anything specific, just be continuing to play plz.
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On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. And I still think HF is mafia. For real.
I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok.
iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu.
I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.
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On May 23 2019 19:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:14 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 19:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:10 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 19:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:05 Jockmcplop wrote: Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.
Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar. I'm not not willing to lynch Artanis. As I said earlier, I find Calix to be the easiest-to-achieve lynch today because of obstinate koshi. If its really easy to lynch someone like calix who has alot of people scumreading her don't you think there might be scum making it easy for you? We'll see if it's easy. Jock you have to understand that in mafia, people can say one thing and do another when it's crunch time. Yes, that's a concern. But currently me and TunnelKoshi are the only people voting for Calix, so hows about we talk about how "easy" the lynch is once we have like...more than 2 votes on her ya? OK thanks for the tip. The more people explain basic obvious shit like this to me now the less you're all gonna have to in the future  Frankly it's not obvious, you're right - a lot of people have stated suspicion of her. But NOT a lot of people have backed up that suspicion with a vote, so we'll see what happens when she's like, THE viable wagon. People put their money where their mouth is so to speak. You know, in exactly the way that Calix DIDN'T where iGrok was concerned yesterday. 
Scummy insinuation that this makes me mafia when you never mentioned this before nor did you once ask me to clarify this or ask your 'scum read' ANYTHING even though we just got out of an interaction where I was calling you mafia.
On May 23 2019 19:20 VisceraEyes wrote: If anything I'd say that iGrok is the easier lynch - more people have actually voted for that guy, and he's on more people's lips and it'd likely be easier to get a lynch off on him. In that way I'd call the iGrok lynch "easier" than Calix. Calix is in here fighting it too, have you seen anything like that from iGrok?
You literally just said I'm the easiest lynch cos The Koshi.
Secondly, I don't give a shit who the 'easier' lynch is when it's mafia as fuck that you're perceiving things from how easy they are to lynch IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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Koshi interacts with me when he agrees and ignores me when he doesn't.
I dislike.
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On May 23 2019 19:23 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. You know, the main reason you townread iGrok was that he was maf reading Bugs like you. Now that you're not maf reading Bugs, does your townread of iGrok remain? If so, why? No I neveraf read bugs. Also not why I townread iGrok at all. I townread him because I feel that the pressure on him is dirty.
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On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. And I still think HF is mafia. For real. I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok. iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu. I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.
That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment.
Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock.
I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.
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On May 23 2019 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Koshi interacts with me when he agrees and ignores me when he doesn't.
I dislike. Hmm
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On May 23 2019 19:26 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:18 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:14 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 19:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:10 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 23 2019 19:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:05 Jockmcplop wrote: Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.
Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar. I'm not not willing to lynch Artanis. As I said earlier, I find Calix to be the easiest-to-achieve lynch today because of obstinate koshi. If its really easy to lynch someone like calix who has alot of people scumreading her don't you think there might be scum making it easy for you? We'll see if it's easy. Jock you have to understand that in mafia, people can say one thing and do another when it's crunch time. Yes, that's a concern. But currently me and TunnelKoshi are the only people voting for Calix, so hows about we talk about how "easy" the lynch is once we have like...more than 2 votes on her ya? OK thanks for the tip. The more people explain basic obvious shit like this to me now the less you're all gonna have to in the future  Frankly it's not obvious, you're right - a lot of people have stated suspicion of her. But NOT a lot of people have backed up that suspicion with a vote, so we'll see what happens when she's like, THE viable wagon. People put their money where their mouth is so to speak. You know, in exactly the way that Calix DIDN'T where iGrok was concerned yesterday.  Scummy insinuation that this makes me mafia when you never mentioned this before nor did you once ask me to clarify this or ask your 'scum read' ANYTHING even though we just got out of an interaction where I was calling you mafia. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:20 VisceraEyes wrote: If anything I'd say that iGrok is the easier lynch - more people have actually voted for that guy, and he's on more people's lips and it'd likely be easier to get a lynch off on him. In that way I'd call the iGrok lynch "easier" than Calix. Calix is in here fighting it too, have you seen anything like that from iGrok? You literally just said I'm the easiest lynch cos The Koshi. Secondly, I don't give a shit who the 'easier' lynch is when it's mafia as fuck that you're perceiving things from how easy they are to lynch IN THE FIRST PLACE. Nothing I'm doing is mafia. I promise. Also calm down. + Show Spoiler +I know telling anyone, especially a woman, to calm down achieves the opposite effect. But srsly, just chill.
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On May 23 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. And I still think HF is mafia. For real. I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok. iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu. I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure. That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment. Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock. I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town. Yes. iGrok is a lynch made after more information. Like ruxxar should have been.
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Look dude, my only tool is the lynch. So yes, I think in terms of how easy they are to achieve. That is NOT a mafia-exclusive trait. I don't have bullets this game and I don't have any powers, all I have is my vote and the lynch to kill mafia. Thinking in terms of trying to achieve balance between WHO I WANT TO KILL and EASE OF ACHIEVING LYNCH is DEFINITELY not mafia.
So get the fuck out of here with that shit.
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On May 23 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote: My mafia team is still Calix BC Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. And I still think HF is mafia. For real. I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok. iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu. I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure. That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment. Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock. I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town. I'll join you on Artanis because I trust wbg his read on bc. That is the only reason why I vote Artanis > bc.
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koshi aiming at 2-2-2-2-2 again.
Maybe I'm wrong on Koshi.
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Lo and behold!
I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.
And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that!
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery.
In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything!
+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself Calix Igrok Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix?
Let's go through this.
He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout.
Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k.
Vague AF read on moi.
Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'.
This really did not need to be a wall post.
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On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote: 1. BloodyC0bble 4. HolyFlare 11. disformation 12. Arty Mctanis 13. Calix Shortened my list.
I only feel confident 2 are on there. Unless Calix is mafia.
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On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread. And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Show nested quote +Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself Calix Igrok Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. Meh. I feel the lynches were set up weird.
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On May 23 2019 19:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Look dude, my only tool is the lynch. So yes, I think in terms of how easy they are to achieve. That is NOT a mafia-exclusive trait. I don't have bullets this game and I don't have any powers, all I have is my vote and the lynch to kill mafia. Thinking in terms of trying to achieve balance between WHO I WANT TO KILL and EASE OF ACHIEVING LYNCH is DEFINITELY not mafia.
So get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Calm down, luv.

But for real, I cannot relate to this mind-set when we're less than 12 hours into the day on an expanded day cycle. At all.
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On May 23 2019 19:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Look dude, my only tool is the lynch. So yes, I think in terms of how easy they are to achieve. That is NOT a mafia-exclusive trait. I don't have bullets this game and I don't have any powers, all I have is my vote and the lynch to kill mafia. Thinking in terms of trying to achieve balance between WHO I WANT TO KILL and EASE OF ACHIEVING LYNCH is DEFINITELY not mafia.
So get the fuck out of here with that shit. Calm down, luv.  But for real, I cannot relate to this mind-set when we're less than 12 hours into the day on an expanded day cycle. At all. You act as if you didn't witness the previous cycle at all. Why?
Like this was MY attitude all day yesterday and look where it got us. I was like "OH WE HAVE ALL DAY" ALL DAY yesterday, and it never mattered. So yes, I'm thinking more in terms of getting people together today, sooner.
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