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On June 26 2018 11:16 CopCake wrote: Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞 scummy post | ||
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On June 26 2018 22:29 CopCake wrote: Hey Vivax! 👋 Hi! | ||
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On June 26 2018 18:06 Holyflare wrote: What an utterly redundant post. I still think tt is mafia. I can't explain it to you other than the phrasing he is using seems overly wordy for the little points he is making which I don't usually feel like from tt. How is his post redundant? Seems more like you see the words scum and HF too close by each other but say it's redundant to cover up that that's the real reason. | ||
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On June 26 2018 23:43 Holyflare wrote: Of all the posts cake has made I think this is even one of her more towny ones. How does mafia say they think they should be town read by someone? Odd filter vivax. Don't like. As mafia it's your main concern how others perceive your alignment. As town it's only your concern when you think that someone not doing it is mafia for it cause you believe you have a strong reason to be townread, which I don't think cop should have. Granted this doesn't take into consideration that given their relationship or w/e it is it might be her own way to read rayn but since there is no visible followup I can safely assume that it led to no read anyway and the above applies instead. You would think her priority is to deliver a read on rayn here but the followup is to pick a bone with Calix instead. | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:10 Mocsta wrote: fyi Its not redundant to me Im heavily a heuristic is true until proven false player I have no fear to partially out that tell because in my mind at least you cant fabricate ehat im looking for as mafia. Regardless vivax is painful yo read and showing none if his town laser focus Im happy between calix and vivax for a vote Nite 4 realz now Scummy post. Ie sucking up to HF then agreeing to vote his scumreads. | ||
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Yet now he does it himself and everyone around him as well. I explain pretty much every reason for a post being scummy or townie, as simple as the reasons may be. Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs. | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine, for starters expalin to me why the fucking fuck should i EVER EVEN THINK of googling a post or some other shit like that in a mafia game just to see if someone has posted it before? Cause conversion said it was copypasta right when you were ITT. While I was reading that part I googled a snip of that text myself and found it on several mafia sites. Then I saw you trying to pick it apart. I didn't find it particularly alignment indicative but the entire discussion stemming from it seemed like a waste of space to me cause you got trolled hard. So I dropped in to mention that. | ||
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You vote me after I criticize your post so there is no apparent reason for you to SR me except ditto? | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax am i town or mafia? I don't know might take a guess later. Why is this relevant? | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you implied i am mafia (idk i might be wrong here but you still did), and now your top scumread is my top townread and you have nothing to say about it and instead of that you wanna discuss some nonsense about Holyflare. The only thing I implied is that you failed to see a post for what it was. Apparently it's YOUR thought that it makes you mafia when you do that. Which gives me to think. | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:50 Vivax wrote: She's oddly non-caustic this game Actually no, seems fairly caustic on a reread, just not towards me for now. | ||
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I'd agree on calix being town here. | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:59 Calix wrote: ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Jeans_pocket_back.jpg/1200px-Jeans_pocket_back.jpg) You're one of the few people who thinks I'm town. And you think my case is sheepable when nobody else does. So what parts of the case did you find good exactly? the end of the post jk the talking about irrelevant things and tmi thingies | ||
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Let's use passive instead. With all the things he mentioned about cop I'd expect him to have a fleshed out scumread by now | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:30 Conversion wrote: I'm still on the lynch HF train, buddy. Maybe I'll fakeclaim cop day 2 to try and get him lynched like a certain someone. I'd buy that claim | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:36 Conversion wrote: Koshi is next on my list for that shitty entrance Fairly neutral entrance for a guy who's having holidays on a huge volcano. | ||
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Mocsta cause his reaction to HF countering him felt a lot like kneejerk and cause of the closet psychologist stuff. Cop for reasons said. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:47 Calix wrote: I don't get how Mocsta's bizarre ramblings about personality types are AI at all. How do they fit in a game where you have to find people pretending to be something they aren't? If someone goes off topic like that and it doesn't look like it's done for amusement but instead sounding like a smartass in a context where they should be doing something else, then it's safe to assume they just don't have the thoughts that accompany their scumhunting process which is what mafia lacks. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:53 Calix wrote: Instead of assuming that Mocsta 'just doesn't have the thoughts that accompany their scumhunting process' can you show us evidence that Mocsta is doing this as part of mafia agenda as opposed to him being a bit of a lunatic? lol Also I'm going to ask why you haven't reacted at all to my change from voting CopCake to voting you. I feel like that's something that you should care about. In your particular case I know better about giving a shit about what you do. | ||
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I think I'm just going to lynch Koshi for pretending to catch up. | ||
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On June 27 2018 21:14 Conversion wrote: 1) I'm not actually being serious about HF. He sounds town, doesn't like TT like me. Overall his play is unimpressive to me so far 2) After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that. That lynch pool was a gun to my head if I were to vote on people. I still don't think there's a mafia in Vivax/Calix, but I may be wrong. If I'm going by PoE, you and rayn are not lynches today. Mocsta/HF/Cop are my town reads. Shockeyy/Vivax/Calix/Koshi My Vivax read is more of a gut feel as he hasn't posted enough to form any read to me. I do actively question people who scum read him and Calix together as that makes almost 0% sense in my books Rayn scumreads both of us btw. Bolded things in your post look contradictory at 1st glance. after your town reads it looks like you forgot to add something to that combo. | ||
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I think he jumps on things purely for looking blatantly inconstructive which is easy bait for mafia. And I'd want to get this unlynchable business out sooner rather than later as that's the only reason I didn't take a bit of a look at him until now. | ||
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Don't think Calix is mafia here but I will always lynch that if the majority thinks that so no point thinking too much about he alignment. HF is purely a wild guess. I think shockey is onto something with TT tho, nothing to do with his unlynchable shit for me though. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:55 Tictock wrote: IMO you should just ignore Conversion re: HF. It is some sort of gruge, or more like he is just unwilling to try and read HF so just always assumes he is mafia and thinks the best play is to kill him first. And I'm not quoting it, but your next post about Rayn here reminded me of something in the Conv v Rayn shit fest that I want to check. Conversion is well know to rage when insulted (though he never has a problem throwing the insults himself), even to the extent that he got himself modkilled in his last game after blowing up about some bout of name calling or some such. Point being? | ||
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Didn't peace out for long I'm back at a pc. Why I said that regfan? Cause I felt like saying it? No deep reason behind it just a thought that was crossing my mind at the time. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:10 Koshi wrote: Ended up reading TT and think we should vote Vivax over Calix. I'll still follow rayn but Vivax looks worse from what I read. I'm wondering what it is that makes it worth mentioning he read TT here. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:44 Tictock wrote: Eh, Rayn seems pretty likely to be town to me here, though I don't think I've ever correctly called him out as mafia. Still his mindset has flowed well with mine so feel pretty fine leaving him as a townread. HF I could easily see being mafia, he has been pretty sideline noise this game and his reads haven't really evolved much, he's just started talking about a wider range of people. I tend to feel that way about him most games though. I'm gunna start a list of players to filter during my meal, HF is gunna be first on my list. I think I was giving him some townie points for ignoring Conversion and focusing on something he saw from me, but that's super weak at this point. What does this even mean? Why does he get townie points for ignoring conversion and pushing you? | ||
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Feels after reading his filter, him playing the offended cause I complained about rayn taking your post at face value and cause he seems like a lynch that can happen. | ||
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On June 28 2018 01:16 Tictock wrote: Check my filter if you really care, I explained it earlier. I thought him ignoring someone who was just shouting to lynch HF and instead push something else was fairly towny. Conversions HF train wasn't going to happen purely out of policy though that should be obvious as much to you as it was to HF. | ||
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On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote: Following a re-read: (1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote (2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good. - Things like HF read fine to me. - Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn. (3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor - Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around. - Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not. (4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake). - Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active. - CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia. (5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty. On June 27 2018 00:10 Mocsta wrote: fyi Its not redundant to me Im heavily a heuristic is true until proven false player I have no fear to partially out that tell because in my mind at least you cant fabricate ehat im looking for as mafia. Regardless vivax is painful yo read and showing none if his town laser focus Im happy between calix and vivax for a vote Nite 4 realz now On June 27 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote: ##Vote: Calix + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote: Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? On June 26 2018 08:14 Tictock wrote: On second thought, lets vote Regfan, purely for having an obscene prepared post, that I will prob never read. On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote: It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks. Thus it's not AI. I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that. On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?" If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here: ..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game. On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote: I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here. Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid. Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call. Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here. On June 26 2018 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: If the underlined part is really what Calix believes, there is no reason to assume a mafia fakecliming to be a cop would not believe they don't have a N0 check (since that's how it clearly works where Gemma usually plays, and there are indications of that for anyone whop has ever played anywhere else since it's almost always how it works). So instead of writing the post off as non-alignment indicative any smart person -- again, believing what Calix clearly implies here -- would try to possibly catch a mafia in a lie by asking "so why don't you wanna claim your check now?" Calix has struck me as a player who digs into stuff and small discrepancies even when they possibly don't matter (especially in the game where i was mafia with bugs and oats), and this "ignorance" towards a possibly revealing discussion seems very un-Calix-like. I have highlighted key parts of the quotes in red, as I do believe this is a genuine scum slip/town tell & may have gone over most peoples heads. (1) Calix requests random vote bandwagon (2) Regfan posts a fake post (3) TT requests to vote Regfan (implied to Calix) (4) Calix provides "analysis of Regfan post" by commenting on validity of cop claim (5) Other posters comment on "Regfan post" by simply stating "copypasta" What I find critical about this sequence of events is that: - Calix cop claim assessment doesn't consider a world where Regfan is mafia and fake-posting, instead - Calix auto-assumes a world where Regfan is cop or VT This is important because Calix is changing gears from "random vote" to "analysis before vote" to provide this contribution that is in essence providing town-lean evidence to upgrade from scummy to NULL. This only satisfies mafia agenda. You provide authentic contribution (i.e. town read), make a potential ally in Regfan, and possibly start a wagon on those that scum read Regfan. I think the townier way to go about the fake-post was what others did. Comment that its a copy/paste and move on. In a world where you only have your PM that is green or blue; how do you read into that fake-post any further.... well, you cant. So why does Calix then go out on a limb so early? Why jump to the conclusion that a fake-post is from town land only? Why change gears in the first place? I absolutely understand why town and scum would not want to random vote; but I cannot comprehend why any town would want to feign a care-free attitude to then ditch it immediately. Who are these others he speaks of in his last bold, weren't they just me and conv who didn't want anything to do with the post? Why isn't he wary of rayn picking it apart like crazy then? If only me and conversion that I know of tried to avoid analyzing the copypasta, why is he far away from a TR on both of us when he writes this unless he knew we were both town? | ||
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That's a nice point though calix.Seems overconfident to write you off as scum and me as town just cause you went after seemingly low hanging fruit especially when I have a bunch of posts where I voice suspicion of Koshi and him myself. Would vote Shockey as well as TT with no particular preference. Which by the way means that both of the guys hard tring me are mafia if correct. | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: I don't care why you may think I'm more mafia, but what is making you think TT maybe town? I decided that he has an honest tone to his posts. Da | ||
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If Regfan actually complied I'd be suspicious of them for giving in to that demand. | ||
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A valid qualm since we're supposedly teammates you shouldn't come in and qq about Shockey being at three votes. All just part of our grand mafia plan | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: like vivax why are you trying so hard to not look like you are mafia with calix? how about do some normal mafia stuff like... making reads? Can I post the youtoobz instead? | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:45 Tictock wrote: You could go back and read where I said I started to change my mind on Calix and realize my point about her being a bad lynch even if I did think she was possibly mafia. Hence why I never actually tried to push a lynch on her. Or yea, we are the worst mafia team ever in existence. It's probably that. I'd try to convince you that rayn is mafia here, but I know you are a submissive sheep who will never turn on hubby. All the proof you need for this man to be town tbh | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:50 CopCake wrote: Nah mate, the bolded part is false and pretty ehh “not educated” It's obviously an assholeish statement but it also reads like genuine frustration for getting unjustly lynched. | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:56 Holyflare wrote: So we lynch bf right? cops bf? | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:00 CopCake wrote: Boxfred, if you were paying attention since a while ago HF have been wanting to lynch BF  | ||
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To be determined. | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:07 CopCake wrote: You wanted to lynch: Mocca/cake/tbd Then koshi Then this Wow man! Your reads change a lot. Be water my fwend | ||
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Changing reads don't make anyone scum and it just looks like a forced filter dive. | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:18 CopCake wrote: Vivax, there was no progressions, no reasons, just throwing a bunch of names of who to lynch imo. Partially yes, partially no. Don't say wholly like you are doing. I am playing this D1 by mostly intuition and little analysis. | ||
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I have a red check on shockeyy | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:55 CopCake wrote: ##unvote ##vote: tictock | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:19 Mocsta wrote: fuck it im probably never going ot catch up on this game now I will vote the unturned stone ##Vote: Koshi I dont particuarly care for the filter, and im concerned with the hammer vote Um, what about your scumread on shockey? Like I was a 20 % scumread calix was your other scumread, so 1 and 20% mafias are voting for another scumread of yours. Isn't it more important that you can't possibly hit all mafias on D1 unless you're mafia jesus over copcake reminding you of something in a tone that suggests it would make you scum? Odd change of mind. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:31 Holyflare wrote: There's no modkills There's minimum activity requirements. That means there are | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:47 Conversion wrote: I am back. I didn't read shit, but TT isn't even voting to save himself? Lol. We should lynch Holyflare for randomly switching to boxerfred Yea he's starting to get on my nerves being serious with that lynch | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:48 Holyflare wrote: Just trust in me Show me how you bend a spoon with your mind and I will | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[4]: ShoCkeyy[3]: Calix[1]: boxerfred[3]:boxerfred, Holyflare. Mocsta Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[1]: raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock Tictock is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . PM us if you see a mistake. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote: alright Calix I'll listen to you Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey? | ||
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I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:17 CopCake wrote: I explained you why I think rayn is town in my opinion. Yet someone hasnt come to tell me why he is mafia. What do you make of his EoD entrance? Someone also mentioned he said it was probably going to be a town lynch when two of his scumreads were being wagons. | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:11 Mocsta wrote: qasnt i in your scum pool b4 Wheres the vivax passion this game? Yea you still are sort of swappable for one of them. Not Shockey tho | ||
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Calix do me a favour and go back to being an obstructive dick and never ever describe me as a beautiful butterfly again, I thought I was going to puke. The only way to overcome my laziness in games is to be given obstacles I want to pass. Right now I don't feel like I have to do anything besides pushing for a shockey lynch attempt take 2. | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:21 CopCake wrote: Like this post is a lie and very manipulative. Didn't I add an iirc? I was working with my memory there | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Catching up at work, but I also had two scumreads on the wagons, and I also said at one point that either or can be mafia. When it comes down to it, everyone is a 50/50 chance. To me, TT and Calix were the scummiest on D1. I haven't read up past the last two pages up to I would say 30mins before EoD, and probably won't be as active, as Thursday are pretty busy for me, but I'm willing to sheep Vivax, since I still consider them town, and if Vivax is willing to vote me off, then so be it, I'll vote myself off it that's what it takes for people to see me flip green. Can't get rid of the feeling you are trying to pocket me. What country are you from btw? Weren't you also austrian or something? | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:34 CopCake wrote: And your view changed when I proved it was wrong or? Not really, still a shittastic entrance where he only complained about shockeyy having votes for no particular reason since -gasp- two of the | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:29 Vivax wrote: Conversion seems to be super hedgy this game. Several instances of CC suspicion but he isn't doing much with it. This is why it's super annoying to play mafia with couples, especially when at least one of them takes it to the personal level. | ||
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On June 29 2018 01:30 Holyflare wrote: If I am mafia with tt and calix why do I force them all to a guy getting modkilled instead of lynching shockeyy...? Not to agree with cop here, but doing things that look like they mean something when they mean nothing usually helps mafia spread disinformation. | ||
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Fun fact: Saw someone named Koshi in a game of OW today. If you don't show up I will cheer for England today. | ||
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On June 29 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote: But it's stupid when if both slender and bf are town they are essentially free flips for me to not lynch. Even if one is mafia it's still stupid. Yea I will agree you'd have the ability to rather mislynch an active player over two coinflips that will only help mafia in the long run | ||
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 That made you so mafia dudes | ||
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On July 04 2018 08:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Slendy you have zero respect in mafia from now on. Why? He played like I would play if everyone didn't know my meta | ||
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Thanks for hosting btw. | ||
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On July 14 2018 06:17 Ace wrote: You seem vaguely familiar. Where do I know you from? You hosted carnival cruise. (And have been calling the forum dead when we had 21 player games) | ||
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