[M]Chill Hop Mafia

On June 22 2018 07:53 Mocsta wrote:
Help me out.

Is this a dig at yourself; or a dig at scrubs?

On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?"

If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here:

..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game.

On June 26 2018 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
We should be lynch ticktock though.

On June 26 2018 10:52 CopCake wrote:


Dude wtf

You actually read the thing you said it was nosense/wouldnt read?

O_o

On June 26 2018 10:59 Regfan wrote:
@Tick - Can you explain the Mocsta town read for me please.

(Is there a way to link post numbers here?)

- R

On June 26 2018 11:22 Regfan wrote:
Can we not put guns to people's heads please, it's distressing.

-G

On June 26 2018 12:41 Regfan wrote:

Man, it's really strange to have a townie say that their own body of work is non-existent, especially when it isn't. I mean, sure, you've only made 3-4 "serious" posts, but that's still a body of work and I don't get why your response to someone having an opinion on you is that they shouldn't have an opinion on you. Like, if you're scumreading us, that kind of doubt about our read on you would make sense, but I don't think you are. I also don't entirely know why you expect that an example will change that.

On the other hand, I guess I like your approach to getting content from separate heads.

Anyway, I don't really understand your process, and your tone is pretty incongruent. You're swinging between this low-effort type posting and these super formal and robotic posts and I don't understand how your brain is bending like that. Here's an example for you.


I don't understand why you made this post when you did. There's nothing wrong with making delayed comments on things, or not responding to everything right away, and I'm not reading into that, but I think it's strange that you weren't really engaging with anything that was going on at the time, and instead making posts about these other things, in a way that doesn't feel to me like you were compelled to respond to them because they just itched at you, if that makes sense. You're like, fiddling around. Which is fine, if that's genuinely your process, but right now I don't understand it.

My concerns with you are more of a "niggle" than anything, but when I see mafia make posts like these, it's because they're not able to find a real or fluid foothold in thread discussion, and fall back on making "look at me thinking about the game" type posts that don't really go anywhere or accomplish anything and lack a kind of underlying emotional drive to them, which is the feeling I've had about your posts so far.

On June 26 2018 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
i find it startling that given all that has occured jn the thread. That i am of your primary concern.

I suspect if you town we are at an impasse.

Im not going to share all my thoights on this game. Only those i think thatvare relevant or those i am asked about and care to share.

If you doubt my intention i would expect you to probe me on why i acted a certain way. Instead you arensoliciting other opinion.
Frankly this comes across to me as suspect. Puppeteer behind the curtain type stuff.

I dont think my past games will help much either. I entered this game with diffeerent jntebtions to others and so far think i am living up to them.

If you must know and have not realiaed. I was suspicious of cupcake because he toom such an early strong stance.
This is reflected in my posts....

On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:

- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

On June 26 2018 20:17 Regfan wrote:
Alright, well, I'm pretty sure Calix is town, I'll let Regfan sanity check me on that when he's back tomorrow I guess.

-G

On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:
small thing

But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock

On June 26 2018 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Actually when Holyflare made his post on tictock i tried to think about that quite a bit and i wouldn't be so certain of that. Grackaroni and FF once completely fooled me with some dumb "early game alliance" just like that.

On June 26 2018 21:29 Regfan wrote:
I don't even know how. Nothing about his post makes sense to me.

-G

On June 26 2018 22:24 Vivax wrote:
Scary amount of nonsense that I had to read so far. Am I the only one to have googled that wall of text post and found it on several other sites after conversion said that it's copypasta? It's like rayn went completely ham over the wording of something that wasn't even generated by the poster which in turn generated a ton of discussion that is barely bearable to read cause it feels like a pointless thing to discuss to me.

On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:


Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.

On June 27 2018 00:20 Calix wrote:


Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't that Grackaroni in the QT chat with DF and TT? Mocsta wasn't even in that game.

On June 27 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
I remember vividly HF complaining in a chat we had that the new player batch tended to say "x is scummy y is townie" without explaining why.

Yet now he does it himself and everyone around him as well. I explain pretty much every reason for a post being scummy or townie, as simple as the reasons may be.

Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs.

On June 27 2018 00:45 Calix wrote:
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___-

On June 27 2018 02:14 Koshi wrote:

Cba to read the thread. I follow rayn till majority tells me not too.

I will filter on my name.

On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.

On June 27 2018 02:30 CopCake wrote:


But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O

On June 27 2018 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
Man tt your mafia game is so off

On June 27 2018 03:08 Calix wrote:


Why exactly do you town-read CopCake so strongly that you'll call her 'almost lock town' and accuse two players of being mafia at least in part because of CopCake-related reasons? You have not explained this read at all.

On June 27 2018 03:43 Holyflare wrote:


Perhaps it's the posts that don't say that that I like?

On June 27 2018 05:24 Conversion wrote:


why am I a waffle town

On June 27 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
Im re-reading the game before continuing where I finished last night (circa p13). Apologies if this is cock-blocking active discussion.



I'm going to go out on a limb that Regfan is town because of this interaction (and how important it is to Gemma later in D1 when talking to Rayn).

Gemma got so "horny" to share some info about herself - which in her mind is pivotal to town success; that she later interprets the post from Calix to be (positively) conclusive; when merely it is asking for token info that could be discerned as the game progresses.

I can't picture a world where mafia would BOTH lap up the opportunity to talk about themselves AND strongly advocate the post as a basis for town+scum reads.
Definitely one or the other, but not both.

[B]On June 27 2018 00:14 Mocsta wrote:
yes. That one game.
I was confirmed town and you refused to change ya view kn the world
It stuck with me lol

I will filter dive you on d2 as you arent in my d1 pool

On June 27 2018 14:03 CopCake wrote:


Where is slendy in this?

Why do you suddenly protect Calix?

On June 27 2018 14:04 CopCake wrote:
TT dont lose meeeeeeeeee!

😩

On June 27 2018 14:05 CopCake wrote:


Are you dating Calix?

On June 27 2018 14:10 CopCake wrote:
Then your appeal to emotion is useless and i dont see why you bother to ask me that when i have what I think is a good case.

On June 27 2018 14:11 Mocsta wrote:
To be honest, I can only see someone taking issue with this if they are concerned Calix is a mislynch and it will make them look bad. I would say only mafia could have that level of certainty on D1 so I really dont know where that puts us?

On June 27 2018 14:16 Mocsta wrote:
Well thats truly insulting now for me isnt it....

fuck off to bed now please.

On June 27 2018 17:33 Vivax wrote:
There's a reasonable chance HF and rayn are mafia this game cause reasons. You should sheep this ironclad case.

On June 27 2018 19:28 Regfan wrote:
Really difficult to actually get a read on Conversion here since his HF push/scum-read looks to be entirely based on some OGI-esque type grudge or a joke-push that he's just maintained for the sheer majority of the day phase. It has scum motivation in that they can hide behind a push that can easily be chalked up as less alignment indicative but ultimately neither of those things feel out of the question for a TL player to do as town. There's other reads/thoughts inside his ISO, some I can sort of follow, others I can't, really though, not a lot to actually get a solidish read on anywhere there.

@Conversion - 1) Can you please just run through where your concern with HF stems from; what's he done here or previously that makes you think he's a worthy policy lynch type player? Can you also try and pull away from your issues with him as a person/player and run through what you think of his alignment in this game 2) How'd your dive into TT go, wouldn't mind you running through your stance on Vivax a little more for me, in #373, you mention you don't really think either him or Calix is mafia, I can follow your reasoning for not thinking they're a scum team there but I don't really see much more to it and removing him and throwing Shockwave/Koshi as your lynch pool feels fairly lazy.

- R

On June 27 2018 20:35 Regfan wrote:

I actually think you're town now and so does Regfan, he's taking care of that and I'm supposed to be taking care of our lynch but I'm not really functional IRL right now so I could use some help, I know you've kind of fallen apart and don't know who to lynch at all but I'd appreciate having your voice.

My favored lynches right now are Vivax/TT/Conversion but Regfan doesn't want to lynch TT and Mocsta says that Vivax is self-resolving so I feel a little bit stuck. It's probably worse because I feel like shit and my reads on them are basically just gut at this point. Anyway I'm going to filter them and try to read and figure out what I think properly and put down some stuff in thread hopefully and would really appreciate it if you look over it with me if you feel up for it.

-G

On June 27 2018 21:11 Vivax wrote:
Hydra boi is lock town

On June 28 2018 01:12 Vivax wrote:


What does this even mean? Why does he get townie points for ignoring conversion and pushing you?

On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.

On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.

Calix is painfully obviously mafia. Vote on Vivax means absolutely nothing since it's probably the best thing to do regardless of Vivax' affiliation. She isn't even trying to do anything after Cake case, simply just nothing, except for looking into lurkers (which also was btw scummy as per her opinion). If i have ever seen a staged conversation it is the one between Calix and Vivax. Oh my dear god i laughed at it yesterday.

Vivax has simply zero train of thought in anything he has said this game. It is that simple.

I am growing more and more suspicions regarding the hydra. Probably our third mafia right there. Some bullet points:
- The thing i talked about earlier where Regfan's and Gemma's thoughts never even try to meld. It was like they are playing a completely different game by themselves and not even trying to figure out which one is wrong when they have a differing opinion on something. Magically, now, when i point this out, it changes! Except that this doesn't make any sense either since Gemma tried to feed some "you don't probably just know how playing as hydra works" bullshit that doesn't even make any sense. But anyways, if she believes in that, there is no reason to change the way they act. So basically it is just done because someone figured out it is not natural what they were doing, and it is because the only reasons you would want to do that is to either stay on both side of the fences or if "one person fucks up, the other one cleans after".
- Then there is the thing where Gemma calls Calix town because Calix was nice, and me mafia because i was not nice, early on in the game. When Calix answers my case later on (i should also note that Calix never really touches the actual case even, just some random shit about wording and stuff), what's Gemma's opinion... Calix is supertown because Calix is not nice!!!! Yeahhhh, it's quite amusing when supposedly same standards work in the opposite way regading who is the person in question.
- Same with Regfan's read on Calix. The post where Mocsta did go into argument with him earlier today. Regfan doesn't want to lynch Calix because some bs about some three people not being mafia together and some percentage stuff. What is that even, you lynch people who are scummy. If you don't want to lynch someone then you don't think they are scummy. Regfan never even says if he thinks Calix is scummy or not, just some crap that has nothing to do with Calix' affiliation and the conclusion is "not a good lynch". Way to present a "read" without actually saying anything about the person.
- Then there is this TT read. 12 hours ago Gemma literally posted this; "We both felt good about TT at the same time.". Suddenly Gemma heavily dislikes TT, for no apparent reason. Basically the only thing TT has done since 12 hrs ago is agreed with the hydra's read that Calix is not necessarily a good lynch. That is literally the only thing that has changed regarding tictocks reads after Gemma called him town. Conclusion; Holyflare watch out, you see what they are doing?
- I am not sure i believe regfan doesn't have a read on me since basically every game we have been together in he (as town) always claims "rayn is super easy to read when he is town" (which also simply by association means i am easy to read when i am mafia). If that is correct or not, it's irrelevant, it's relevant he believes so regardless how much of time has passed from our last game together.

So yeah, those are my scumreads. I pretend Conversion doesn't exist in the game but he is most likely not mafia anyways.

Vivax has simply zero train of thought in anything he has said this game. It is that simple.

On June 27 2018 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
I think I agree with rayn about reg. None of the posts they seem to pick out would usually mean anything to an alignment.

Not sure about his calix read though.

On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".

It stars with Calix here:



What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it.

here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix.


Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax"


Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town...

Vivax the well known town...

On June 27 2018 22:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:


How do you know they can't shoot multiple times? it doesn't say it in the rules, it just says this:

Option A - 1 blue role , 9 vanilla town, 3 vanilla mafia
Option B - 2 blue role , 8 vanilla town, 1 mafia roleblocker, 2 vanilla mafia

Either two vanilla, or three vanilla, and from the Role PM, it seems like all three can shoot. You probably didn't check because it will be handed to you through mafia QT... along where you and Tictock maybe conversing even though you're on "different" time zones.

On June 27 2018 22:19 Conversion wrote:


These are exactly the type of posts I have an issue with concerning your play. You make this long-winded post that is teetering on the edge of painting me scum, and even saying you wouldn’t mind lynching me, but then you do this soft cry for help shit. Stick to your guns and actually push and make a read? If my playstyle is scummy to you, then stick to that. If you’re unsure, then don’t lynch me over your stronger scumreads

On June 27 2018 22:37 CopCake wrote:
I am sorry Calix, my answer might come of the one of an ass but your answer about me initially asking you then must habw been boring or not satisfying because I dont remember.

It didnt make me thing “Oh well this read is good maybe Calix is town” but it didnt happen.

The only universe I can think of you being town is if Rayn is mafia.

On June 27 2018 22:39 CopCake wrote:
And I dont like regfan being all “oh but i havent played you know this rayn”

Sounds like appeal to emotion.

Everyone is busy.

Everyone has a life.

Me right now is answering from a gym so yeah.

On June 27 2018 22:46 Koshi wrote:
I read rayn last post and this page in reverse order. I havent read the last 12ish pages except snippets somewhere I posted. Nothing from Vivax or Calix looks town enough to warrant protest. So I wont. Regfan I wouldnt lynch in a million years. Holy fuck can they type words. If you play scum like that you need to get a reality check irl. Ponder your life choices.

So with the best player on this site being hindered to solve the game I have no choice to believe the second best player.

I assume he is votin Calix

## Vote Calix

On June 27 2018 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Going to enjoy more sun. I will put it in my brain to check when watching soccer.

On June 27 2018 23:29 Regfan wrote:

hard yikes

-G

On June 27 2018 23:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:


This doesn't help you, if anything mafia would likely never go back to older games because they simply don't care. While meta can change in different games yes, and it's hard to classify just based on that, it does help when you've played games with others.

On June 28 2018 00:01 Vivax wrote:
I mean the last part, why is it relevant to you that conv can get worked up to the point of modkilling himself? I don't see how that is relevant to the quoted post or his alignment.

On June 28 2018 00:04 CopCake wrote:


I wouldnt use my gun on a afk because there is like so much rich material here to judge to make town reads or mafis trafs

Going for a afk means you dont feel secure enough with your reads or it is what it looks for me.

If in all games it was ok to lynch an afk over someonr very suspicious idk why we are playing mafia then.

On June 28 2018 00:15 Regfan wrote:

Because of posts like this.

-G

On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.

On June 28 2018 00:52 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch tt in a heartbeat btw. Pretty confident he's mafia.

Just putting that out there for future shenanigans.

On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma?

On June 28 2018 01:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Says this 8 mins ago, votes for me 4 mins ago, so what made you come to the conclusion of voting for me? Was it because I've been calling Calix out? Or you out?

On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.

On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.

On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:


I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him.

You then provide no alternative.

On June 28 2018 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only fucking people that have been toxic in this game are Conversion and Regfan himself and both against me.

On June 28 2018 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No, i fucking hate shitheads.

On June 28 2018 04:05 Calix wrote:


TT why are you not trying to work with your town-read who you wanted to work with and who is a counter-wagon to you and your scum-read?

On June 28 2018 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well this D1 is gonna end up on a town lynch most likely based on votes.

On June 28 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

why are you so fucking incapable to make a decision?
make a decision, dont ask useless shit from other ppl.

On June 28 2018 04:56 CopCake wrote:
TT being mafia makes sense since a while for the mental gymnastic he pulled to deffend Calix tbf.

The mafia team to me is

Calix-Ticktock-Regfan

Or

Calix-Ticktock-Inactive that has posted

If Calix ended up to be town then I will look at you Rayn but I am confident that Calix is mafia and I dont know why others are trying to make you reconsider ir asking me to look at you. I mean knowing you, you just dont tunnel someone for the sake of it and you dont pull the “I am bad I am bad” after it 🤔 besides if you dont die early you are mafia, that is a fact.

On June 28 2018 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Tt can ypu link me a mafia game?

Also give me scum reads.

On June 28 2018 05:45 Tictock wrote:


You could go back and read where I said I started to change my mind on Calix and realize my point about her being a bad lynch even if I did think she was possibly mafia. Hence why I never actually tried to push a lynch on her.

Or yea, we are the worst mafia team ever in existence. It's probably that.

I'd try to convince you that rayn is mafia here, but I know you are a submissive sheep who will never turn on hubby.

On June 28 2018 05:26 Holyflare wrote:


I still don't think she's mafia rayn. Dunno what to say. I'm not sure on tt either but his posts are outrageously wrong and I don't know what that makes him.

I also have absolutely no idea who he scum reads because all he does is comment on posts that are days old and say random things.

I'd give him about a 65% chance to maybe 70 that he's mafia.

On June 28 2018 07:54 Conversion wrote:


On top of everything else, he is more likely to flip mafia than town. IF he is town he needs to fuck off with his emo TL mafia is trash garbage monologue he's doing and actually play to save himself on a scum read HE ACTUALLY HAS

win-win either way

On June 28 2018 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well this D1 is gonna end up on a town lynch most likely based on votes.

On June 28 2018 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Small note. I am not going to blame myself if i call holyflare mafia on D2 after he lynches TT.

On June 28 2018 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like uh... TT you have to be mafia.
I am gonna trust and sheep HF here.
#unvote
##vote tictock

On June 28 2018 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
calix is still mafia though.

On June 28 2018 07:12 Holyflare wrote:


I normally have absolutely no problem reading you. Or at least being sure one way or the other even if I'm wrong. This game you feel extremely off. It's statements like you made against me not reevaluating that make you look bad because that is a a completely untrue statement and you have absolutely no care in the world to follow up that statement.

On June 28 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
WTF is going on with this game.

A, there is no tracker to claim....

B, Why is TT town....



Thats it...

On June 28 2018 07:55 Regfan wrote:
Lynching a 0 poster does not give us information.

If there's modkills in the game, it's taking away one shot of us hitting scum that we could use better.

If there's not modkills then we can make sure to overly focus on the slot tomorrow.

Aiming at BF or TSM here doesn't make sense, regardless of their alignment.

- R

On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote:
no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash

On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:
@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=all

but I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 28 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
#1099
well i read that stuff when i dived him and thought it was ok
why is the inconsistency scummy?

like I think he states ?later? that calix is 80% scummy.. so makes sense to me he is fluctuating his position
and the 25min pause because stamps is a fair bit of time to change position, at least for me lol

is that the only reason he thought you were scum. becase of HF?
actually dont bother, i go chec now.

On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote:
So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.

I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks?

On June 28 2018 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
Now about those discord chats and timestamps. How about that?

On June 28 2018 08:19 Conversion wrote:


I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face-- I actually had to think a lot and came to a late conclusion. Would have been much, much easier if TT just voted to save himself as it made no sense in my head why he would go emo, make a comment on me going emo and modkilling myself in previous games, before ACTUALLY voting to save himself.

But whatever. Boxerfred lynch was trash, and now we just extended day1 for no reason whatsover. Thanks shitty wagoners that enabled this to happen. TT dying would have been more favorable than this garbage

On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.

On June 28 2018 08:32 CopCake wrote:


I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD.

You do NOT do that out of nowhere.

On June 28 2018 08:38 CopCake wrote:


Ask him yourself, I would believe it was because he ess an ass to me and felt guilt.

On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R

On June 28 2018 08:41 CopCake wrote:


This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself

Where is your god now HF?

On June 28 2018 08:56 Conversion wrote:
shoot me if you have to. somehow people have become more of a drama queen than I have and that's just boring. I'm just going to go play some shit game like DotA if I want to be surrounded by people giving up 10% of the way in the game

On June 28 2018 08:58 Holyflare wrote:


I just want to highlight how bizarre (read: scummy) this post is by the way. As far as I know the non-Gemma guy town read ticktock before he left the thread and all that he has to go off of is Gemma leaving a cryptic message about lynching ticktock. He also had shockeyy as his most scummy person in a list with vivax.

"We should be hunting inside shockeyy, vivax, tt, slender and koshi" but koshi voted shockeyy, vivax (ok he switched but only to save tt) and tt also voted shockey and conversion also voted shockeyy instead of the town bf lynch.

Notice how shockeyy just disappears from this list when he talks about who could actually be mafia though. For a guy that seems to pride himself on making pairings and who can't be mafia together why does shockey EVER appear in this list to begin with?

On June 28 2018 09:11 CopCake wrote:
I want to point out something, and I hope someone smart, educated and with patience will read.

- I got told that TT was extremely frustrated and that is why he called me sheep sheep rayn hubby, that he was trying to do everything to save himself.

- Then he is all “I am sorry cake I will peace out I am sorry

- Calix did everything to save him, HF was like if TT dies he deserves it because he is not switching votes

- Then BF is rip, get told that TT is town for not voting himself by HF

- Regfan then comes and says that TT voted for someone else to vote himself, which the whole case of HF doesnt work anymore

- HF calls regfan mafia for this and says TT would not know if he saved himself. He voted at the last minute, 59 seconds before end of the day, a whole minute, please he was lurking forever doing nothing

Rip in peppers but no one will listen to me if anyone find tjis super odd

On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote:
Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.

I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.

Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content.

On June 28 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:


Don't really agree with this. He voted after you and I even thought shockeyy was the lynch and he made a post after I accused him of saving bf basically saying fight me. Looks fine imo.

On June 28 2018 09:35 Holyflare wrote:


There was a good long time he was discussed when you were around. You also posted in the vote thread specifically that you were not voting shockeyy....

On June 28 2018 09:39 Holyflare wrote:
I also absolutely pester smurfs the entire game to tell me who they are.

On June 28 2018 09:44 Holyflare wrote:
I'm just talking to a brick wall. This catch up style and ignore the actual thread isn't a good way to play tt. You're denying me info and my ability to back and forth and figure things out.

On June 28 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:


Who’s acting like you are to blame, regardless of what HF said? I was explaining my rationale to Calix, and somehow you’re taking that as me blaming you. My vote hinged on you actually playing the game, who fucking knew? If you’re just going to act like a pissy, moody, teenager, kindly join the rayn camp and don’t bother fucking talking to me. I’m seriously sick of your shit attitude and you telling me I do the same in past games when you’re the one acting like a fucking drama queen along with Regfan

So why did you move your vote at all, and not try harder to sway people to vote me.

On June 28 2018 10:00 Holyflare wrote:


And you complain about other people's toxicity.

On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:


What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable.

Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^

On June 28 2018 10:39 Calix wrote:


She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first.

Also don't lie, we are totally dating.

On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote:
And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk.

On June 28 2018 10:46 Regfan wrote:
This site is completely unbearable. I'm glad I got to roll a town hydra with Regfan but I sincerely regret ever stepping foot in this place.

Bye, enjoy whatever the fuck this game is.

On June 28 2018 11:00 CopCake wrote:


You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑

Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME:

- You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”

On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.

CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.

No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.

On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:
Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it...

I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that.

Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.

On June 28 2018 11:27 Calix wrote:


Nah, she said both

You're probably right though. I'm not really feeling the mafia vibes from anyone so it's just a matter of waiting for the less-townie people to get online and react.

In the meantime, I'm going to bed.

As an aside, I start having longer work shifts from tomorrow so when I drop off and can't spam my way to a 9-page filter every cycle, don't be surprised. I will say this about 3505437609 times just so people get the message ^^

On June 28 2018 11:35 Calix wrote:


Imagine that, a game where the sentence "Tictock is contributing more than X player" can be said

On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.

On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion

On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote:
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute

On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.

On June 28 2018 22:17 CopCake wrote:
I explained you why I think rayn is town in my opinion.

Yet someone hasnt come to tell me why he is mafia.

On June 28 2018 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It is not odd. Conversion was and is a dickhead and i almost quit the game.

On June 28 2018 12:02 Tictock wrote:


This still reads to me as using the following shit-slinging as a way to step away from the game. Giving rayn the benefit of the doubt here he would have been reacting to Conversion's "We should always lynch HF" stuff he did at the start.

Oh and this starts on pg 18 and into pg 19 if anyone wants to look themselves.
+ Show Spoiler [Rayn vs Conv] +

So this was very much so a fight that Rayn instigated and then later uses as an excuse for stepping away from the game. The exchange feels overall pretty natural so I doubt this is a scum vs scum staged thing.

On June 28 2018 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
Ahh 2 babez

Time to mud wrestle

Yes im such a sexist pig and luvin it

On June 28 2018 23:17 CopCake wrote:
Or that is how I see it but as many have said, maybe I am “bised” that is why I took the time to filter rayn in his eotd because the quote alone and the vote progression thatvwas presented to me looked indeed scummy.

On June 28 2018 23:43 Panseyflare wrote:
I just find it funny you all lynched bf with me, because I never cared to explain my scumread on TT, then decided to call him town, and then said BF is probably mafia.

Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me.

But you all shit the bed.

On June 29 2018 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nor the people who are or i try to have "on my side".

Literally the worst three nightkills to blame on me. So yeah, there's that mostly everyone is bad with nightkills.

On June 29 2018 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Also if we are fair, HF hasnt done anything during this game, which is kinda hypocrite for someone like Calix who make cases to rayn for “lol talking too much of other games”

Now I am gonna sit here and get a lot of shit comments of how I am biased.

On June 29 2018 02:11 Vivax wrote:
Would be disappointed if I got shot tonight. This game is keeping me from going insane irl.

On June 29 2018 00:08 Holyflare wrote:
Lol time to vote shockeyy tomorrow. My bad.

On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn

On June 29 2018 02:50 CopCake wrote:
TT lets be friends for a while

You have played a lot of games here

Tell me:
Is HF this picky? Do you remember he called you mafia for using stroke on a setence?

On June 29 2018 03:25 Holyflare wrote:


He is an entity that has completely fallen from grace.

Null tbh. Want more.

On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote

I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read.

I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd.

Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post.
Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior.

Will decide when i wake up. ciao.

On June 28 2018 07:04 Mocsta wrote:
Morning!

i cant believe 20pages in less than 12hrs!

Can someone give me a quick run down; or a link to key posts.

I cant read that critically before lynch

Thanks,

On June 28 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote:
#971
he is first vote on shockeyy....

anyways, fuck you all for ignoring me

##Vote; Shockeyy

On June 28 2018 07:19 Mocsta wrote:
fuck it

im probably never going ot catch up on this game now

I will vote the unturned stone

##Vote: Koshi

I dont particuarly care for the filter, and im concerned with the hammer vote

On June 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm.

Filter dive rayn - Theres a couple odditities in his play, but maybe IRL shit. Like, I just dont think he can be that passionate against calix/regfan etc as mafia. Theres a lot of conviction in his posts that I think cannot be faked.

Filter dive tictock - Im still not seeing why anyone thinks he is scum. I look at his wagon and see pretty much town (if you treat the shockeyy mafia stuff as a dumbtell)

Koshi is probably a crap shoot. I prob more want to lynch him out of spite than I think he is mafia

Calix i think is town. #1004 is just something i dont expect mafia to say, but i see town do it all the time. its just a genuine venting of frustration

this leaves my voting block to shockeyy, boxer fred, vivax
Will filter those guys now

##unvote
Who knows, maybe this is a bizarre game where 2 of the scum team are AFK, and vivax is actually by himself lol

On June 29 2018 07:33 CopCake wrote:
Koshi is town, his filter is so short, honest and easy to follow.

On June 29 2018 08:00 Mocsta wrote:
You are such a dipshit

i have commited so many posts to talking about that regfan/rayn thing

its a fuckn important issue in my eyes.

go fuck yoruself

On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.

On June 28 2018 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It is not odd. Conversion was and is a dickhead and i almost quit the game.

On June 29 2018 11:59 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, if conversion is mafia, i can see it being with vivax or calix.

Obviously vivax is town, which means calix is definitely a possible ally

From: KelsierSC [ 9849 posts | Profile | Report ]
Subject: Chill Hop Mafia Role
Date: 6/25/18 16:08

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You have nothing going for you in life.

You can vote.

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